Gambling hoping for some promotions

[mz-s]

47 minutes ago, gkbiiii said:

There is an older YouTuber guy, that says $1,000 bankroll, through $1.00 "Wheel of Fortune" playing $10 games; one night a cruise will get comped balcony cabins.  Basically $100 a day gambling budget, played all in one night. The THEO (Theoretical Average) same as land based casinos, gets you better comps, with fewer strong play days, rather then many midlevel ones.  On his 30 day Australia/Vancouver & 7 night Alaska, back to back, he gambled $3,000 the first cruise and $700 the second.

 

His average, will most likely get him strong offers going forward.  Perhaps Ultra or Elite offers in the future?

 

The problem is there is no proof of any of that because Carnival does not publish their formula for comps, if there even is a formula. You could do exactly what he outlines (even double it) and not get a single comp, not even a free steakhouse dinner, and you would have nobody to appeal to because there is nowhere to go.

 

I really don't recommend gambling on Carnival (or gambling more than you otherwise would) just for comps. Gamble for entertainment, and if you get comps all the better.

Edited June 8, 2023 by mz-s

[LaRue1975]

8 hours ago, mz-s said:

 

That would be like pulling the slot machine for someone else assuming you're doing this so you can accumulate points under one account. I could definitely see the casino denying a payout if someone was doing that.

The hubby and I played on my card in all the Vegas casino groups for a decade with no problem. He got a hand pay at the Cromwell but wasn’t using a players card because we were staying at the Cosmopolitan and Cromwell is a Caesars property. When they were paying it out I told them he didn’t have his Total Rewards card with him but I had mine and they took it.  When I asked for the extra players card at the cashier on the Vista and Breeze I told them I wanted it so hubby and I could play together on the same card. In my experience they don’t care, we already share the comps regardless of whose name is on the offer. 

[Elaine5715]

5 hours ago, gkbiiii said:

There is an older YouTuber guy, that says $1,000 bankroll, through $1.00 "Wheel of Fortune" playing $10 games; one night a cruise will get comped balcony cabins.  Basically $100 a day gambling budget, played all in one night. The THEO (Theoretical Average) same as land based casinos, gets you better comps, with fewer strong play days, rather then many midlevel ones.  On his 30 day Australia/Vancouver & 7 night Alaska, back to back, he gambled $3,000 the first cruise and $700 the second.

 

His average, will most likely get him strong offers going forward.  Perhaps Ultra or Elite offers in the future?

See post about gamblers being fibbers, double that for YouTubers

[icft]

22 minutes ago, Elaine5715 said:

See post about gamblers being fibbers, double that for YouTubers

Agree. It didn't pass the smell test for me.

[mz-s]

11 hours ago, LaRue1975 said:

The hubby and I played on my card in all the Vegas casino groups for a decade with no problem. He got a hand pay at the Cromwell but wasn’t using a players card because we were staying at the Cosmopolitan and Cromwell is a Caesars property. When they were paying it out I told them he didn’t have his Total Rewards card with him but I had mine and they took it.  When I asked for the extra players card at the cashier on the Vista and Breeze I told them I wanted it so hubby and I could play together on the same card. In my experience they don’t care, we already share the comps regardless of whose name is on the offer. 

 

I hope it continues to work out for you. I'm skeptical.

[Riles34]

I spend about $300 a cruise just playing penny slots and take some winnings to pay off the bill here and there. In total with winnings, I put $851 into the machine where $551 was carnivals money. I walked away with about 1000 points on my card and I get casino offers all the time. Interior rooms, not balconies like the big betters. I gamble for the fun of it and only do it when I have nothing else going on. So take it or leave it, I think the $300 I lost (with the understanding I was giving it away for some entertainment) was well worth it for some offers, Free drinks, Free play, $500 OBC, etc.

[Tom-n-Cheryl]

19 hours ago, gkbiiii said:

...

 

His average, will most likely get him strong offers going forward.  Perhaps Ultra or Elite offers in the future?

 

My youngest (now 31) keeps getting offers, though usually not as good as mine - just yesterday receiving an ULTRA cruise invite. Since restart, has only spent $20 on slots, on one afternoon. Prior to Covid (probably 8 years back) it was only playing a little BJ, with money I fronted !

 

Tom

[EngIceDave]

Never gamble for comps

[Calnev1]

On 6/8/2023 at 7:28 AM, 1kaper said:

 

We both get pretty much the same offers except for the room type so I don't see the value in spreading it across both cards unless you may decide to book two rooms in the future.

 

My wife and I have thought about leveraging both of our free offers by booking two cabins on the same cruise, one cabin in her name and her sister's name, and one cabin in my name and my brother-in-law's name.  Then when we are aboard my wife and my brother-in-law would trade keys.  We haven't actually tried this yet, but if the right cruise offers itself up, we will try it.  Yes, there are some potential issues, like sorting out room charges, but we are a close knit family so am pretty sure we could work through those issues. 

[StephPS79]

18 minutes ago, Calnev1 said:

My wife and I have thought about leveraging both of our free offers by booking two cabins on the same cruise, one cabin in her name and her sister's name, and one cabin in my name and my brother-in-law's name.  Then when we are aboard my wife and my brother-in-law would trade keys.  We haven't actually tried this yet, but if the right cruise offers itself up, we will try it.  Yes, there are some potential issues, like sorting out room charges, but we are a close knit family so am pretty sure we could work through those issues. 

 

This is very commonly done.  Sorting out room charges isn't that big of a deal, you just attach a payment method to each one.  You can separate into separate portfolios for each person.

 

The biggest issue I've seen come up is loss of perks when moving occupants, so some people suggest to just leave as is, and get an extra keycard for each.

[Calnev1]

1 minute ago, StephPS79 said:

 

This is very commonly done.  Sorting out room charges isn't that big of a deal, you just attach a payment method to each one.  You can separate into separate portfolios for each person.

 

The biggest issue I've seen come up is loss of perks when moving occupants, so some people suggest to just leave as is, and get an extra keycard for each.

Can you give me an example of "loss of perks?"  All I can think of that might be at risk would be maybe my wife's DOU in the casino (and casino points?) if she goes to the casino with my BILs room key.  

[StephPS79]

11 minutes ago, Calnev1 said:

Can you give me an example of "loss of perks?"  All I can think of that might be at risk would be maybe my wife's DOU in the casino (and casino points?) if she goes to the casino with my BILs room key.  

 

DOU should stay, from what I've read.  There have been some accounts of OBC or Funplay being lost.  I don't have any first hand experience with switching rooms though.  If you don't have either of these, probably no issue to switch. 

 

She should go to the casino with her own  Sign and Sail though, the room key would just be for access to the room.  The other key would be the one to use for everything else.

 

Edited June 9, 2023 by StephPS79

[dallasdan]

23 minutes ago, Calnev1 said:

Can you give me an example of "loss of perks?"  All I can think of that might be at risk would be maybe my wife's DOU in the casino (and casino points?) if she goes to the casino with my BILs room key.  

I have done this a couple of times.  My wife had drinks everywhere on the ship, I only had drinks on us in the casino.  I don't drink and my friends wife does drink so she was able to purchase cheers once on board.  In this case we just got extra room keys.  This may be a perk they were talking about.  Otherwise perks don't change for the 2 people that booked the rooms.  The other time we had them change our sail and sign cards.  I didn't lose any perks when this was done.

[Calnev1]

1 hour ago, dallasdan said:

I have done this a couple of times.  My wife had drinks everywhere on the ship, I only had drinks on us in the casino.  I don't drink and my friends wife does drink so she was able to purchase cheers once on board.  In this case we just got extra room keys.  This may be a perk they were talking about.  Otherwise perks don't change for the 2 people that booked the rooms.  The other time we had them change our sail and sign cards.  I didn't lose any perks when this was done.

What did you tell guest services when you got the extra keys?  That you lost your original key(s), or the truth (that there was a room switch)?

[Colorado Beach Bum]

1 hour ago, Calnev1 said:

What did you tell guest services when you got the extra keys?  That you lost your original key(s), or the truth (that there was a room switch)?

You just ask for a key only card, not a new sign and sail card.  People do this all the time especially with kids so they can access their room.  If you do this a couple of people have to carry two cards around - 1 sail and sign, the other room key.  
 

if you say room switch they can do that too and you just have to use one card but here’s the risk people talk about about maybe losing a perk like free strawberry’s, etc. 

 

We just ask for a room key and never switch actual room cards.  

[amcankid]

On 6/8/2023 at 9:05 AM, klfrodo said:

From an older person, let me just share that you're playing a losing game. You're betting thousands for a free cabin and free drinks. The house wins every time with that strategy. In time, one of you will probably develop a problem. Might be a huge problem, might be a small problem. Either way, if one partner develops a problem, it's a problem for both persons as a team to work through.

 

I'm not against having fun and throwing a couple of thousand to help support the gaming community. But only play what you can afford to lose and have fun at the same time. Once there becomes an objective to playing (winning, hoping for retirement, receiving free upgrades, etc) it's no longer for "fun".

 

If you see this as a lecture, please accept my apologies. I'm just a grandpa trying to share some wisdom I've learned the hard way over the years.

Lol. Okay Grandpa. Thanks for the lecture. Of course if I’m calling you grandpa you must really be old cause I’m 68! 
In all seriousness, you’re correct in everything you say, but not to worry for me. I gave up gambling when I had my first kid 46 years ago. No desire at all. But now we’re in a good position to spend a few dollars here and there without it impacting the lives of anyone including ourselves. So why not bring a few thousand hoping to maybe bring a few thousand more back but knowing we might bring a couple of hundred instead but with the added possibility that we might get one,two, three or more free cruises out of it.  And if we don’t? Well, that’s life. If you don’t give it a shot you’ll never know. 

[BoozinCroozin]

Here is how to get promos for gambling. Take your entire trip cost including Cheers package. Lets assume a 7-day cruise that is $4,000 in total. That is about $600/day. Go to the casino for 3-hours each day, pump a minimum of $600/day through the casino. After that week, you will start to get some offers for about 15%-20% off, maybe some onboard credit or free play. If you want better than that, pump $1500/day for the 7-days. Then you will start to see DOU everywhere, free room, etc. 

[gkbiiii]

1 hour ago, BoozinCroozin said:

Here is how to get promos for gambling. Take your entire trip cost including Cheers package. Lets assume a 7-day cruise that is $4,000 in total. That is about $600/day. Go to the casino for 3-hours each day, pump a minimum of $600/day through the casino. After that week, you will start to get some offers for about 15%-20% off, maybe some onboard credit or free play. If you want better than that, pump $1500/day for the 7-days. Then you will start to see DOU everywhere, free room, etc. 

But I've been told that the $4,000 would be better gambled over "1 day" rather then over the week.  Just like in land based casinos, rating will be much better and your comps will show a significant difference. 

[Calnev1]

On 6/8/2023 at 10:22 AM, Elaine5715 said:

The points you collect onboard are only relevant for the bouceback offers that are given to the top 10 percent of players on that cruise.  A few thousand may or may not get you there.  People can and do charge up to $5000 a day in the casino.  The casino related offers that show up regularly are based on targeted marketing demographics of which prior play is one small data point.  They don't care how much you spent last cruise, they want to know how much you can spend next cruise.  

How do you know all this?  Like that "bounceback offers are given to the top 10 percent of players on the cruise?"  That is very specific.

[Elaine5715]

1 hour ago, Calnev1 said:

How do you know all this?  Like that "bounceback offers are given to the top 10 percent of players on the cruise?"  That is very specific.

Pretty common knowledge

[Elaine5715]

5 hours ago, gkbiiii said:

But I've been told that the $4,000 would be better gambled over "1 day" rather then over the week.  Just like in land based casinos, rating will be much better and your comps will show a significant difference. 

Comps and offers are two different items.  Hosts have been moving to "predicted rate of play" for onboard comps since if they waited til the end of the cruise to give out specialty dinners or spa treatments, there isn't much availability.  So if you drop $4000 first day, the computer "predicts" you will continue to play at the same rate and they may offer onboard comps based on that.   

[Tom-n-Cheryl]

10 minutes ago, Elaine5715 said:

Comps and offers are two different items.  Hosts have been moving to "predicted rate of play" for onboard comps since if they waited til the end of the cruise to give out specialty dinners or spa treatments, there isn't much availability.  So if you drop $4000 first day, the computer "predicts" you will continue to play at the same rate and they may offer onboard comps based on that.   

Around day 5/6 of our Mardi Gras sailing about 3 months ago, the host finally dropped by and was offering specialty dining. I told them we already had it booked every night months before the sailing. Instead, I asked if they might be able to send a specific bottle of wine to our cabin. Scored a Caymus Special Selection 👍

[Calnev1]

There is a lot of speculation on this thread.  I now have an explicit data point that I can throw out.

 

I play table games on the ships, and my wife plays slots.  I play much more than my wife, who on past cruises maybe dropped $50 to $100 max in losses.  We both have been getting casino offers continually since the COVID restart.  Mine were initially free balcony, but have dropped to free ocean view.  My wife’s offers were in the form of discounts, and, frankly, not very interesting.

 

We had two Carnival  cruises this past May, a four day and a seven day.  We decided to do an experiment with my wife and her slot play.  On each cruise we allotted her $45 in maximum losses per day, of course hoping she wouldn’t lose but if she did capping those losses.  So on the four day cruise she played until she lost $180 total for the cruise and then quit playing, racking up 202 points in the process.  On the seven day cruise she played until she lost $315 total for the cruise and by then had racked up 1,059 points.

 

Fast forward to five days ago, and my wife started to get free room offers.  Well, it was a limited free room offer entitled “Casino Last Minute Offer: Free Room.”  Clicking thru, at first there were just a couple of cruises and both were within a week of departure.   One out of Miami, and one in Europe.  Interior Rooms.  OK, not that interesting, too far away and not enough notice.  And then this morning another cruise appeared under the free room offer:  A 10 day Alaska out of San Francisco departing June 12.   Much closer to us geographically and more interesting.  I don’t know if we will ever use one of my wife’s last minute free room offers, but of course we will continue to monitor them.

 

Anyways, I think this gives some insight into what sort of play may trigger good casino offers.

Edited June 10, 2023 by Calnev1

[Elaine5715]

1 hour ago, Calnev1 said:

There is a lot of speculation on this thread.  I now have an explicit data point that I can throw out.

 

I play table games on the ships, and my wife plays slots.  I play much more than my wife, who on past cruises maybe dropped $50 to $100 max in losses.  We both have been getting casino offers continually since the COVID restart.  Mine were initially free balcony, but have dropped to free ocean view.  My wife’s offers were in the form of discounts, and, frankly, not very interesting.

 

We had two Carnival  cruises this past May, a four day and a seven day.  We decided to do an experiment with my wife and her slot play.  On each cruise we allotted her $45 in maximum losses per day, of course hoping she wouldn’t lose but if she did capping those losses.  So on the four day cruise she played until she lost $180 total for the cruise and then quit playing, racking up 202 points in the process.  On the seven day cruise she played until she lost $315 total for the cruise and by then had racked up 1,059 points.

 

Fast forward to five days ago, and my wife started to get free room offers.  Well, it was a limited free room offer entitled “Casino Last Minute Offer: Free Room.”  Clicking thru, at first there were just a couple of cruises and both were within a week of departure.   One out of Miami, and one in Europe.  Interior Rooms.  OK, not that interesting, too far away and not enough notice.  And then this morning another cruise appeared under the free room offer:  A 10 day Alaska out of San Francisco departing June 12.   Much closer to us geographically and more interesting.  I don’t know if we will ever use one of my wife’s last minute free room offers, but of course we will continue to monitor them.

 

Anyways, I think this gives some insight into what sort of play may trigger good casino offers.

None of that is relevant to marketing offers.  

[joe/jack]

Two months ago we were on Horizon 

We booked a casino deal that gave us a great rate and drinks while playing and OBC. 1st night I put my card in a slot machine and I had a 250$ free play.

when I asked the casino Mgr why she said it was just random.

I ended up losing twice that much in 6 days it’s all relative. Just entertainment 

for us. 

So none of this makes any sense to me.