Are Butler tips part of the all included tip amounts?

[RichYak]

11 hours ago, DaKahuna said:

...any tips given to the Maitre'd went into the pool shared by the wait staff, the same as giving tips directly to the wait staff. 

I have the same understanding. The maitre'd gets a piece as well.

[wineoclock]

We generally tip extra also. There is sometimes, someone we forget, when doing our calculations. So now we take 2/3 extra envelopes with us, with just our room number & name on, so that if we see someone we’ve missed out, they don’t. It doesn’t often happen but we aren’t perfect! 

[phoenix_dream]

23 hours ago, Pinboy said:

Thank you for responding-- I must say I read and misinterpreted your post.

What prompted my response was the numerous threads about Gratuities , especially the one regarding whether a gratuity is included in room service where there was quite a debate and the impression I was left with was that " It's included, so why should I tip any more "?

As we both know and appreciate the hard work the Staff does for us and to not tip for room service is certainly not the way I treat Staff-- and, you appear to be the same.

With that, I now understand your post --- you are " bang on ".

 

Nice response.  Thank you