dunmowin Posted April 9, 2006 #1 Share Posted April 9, 2006 Just back from 4/2 Mariner, which was wonderful and crowded. I really don't understand why it's so hard to follow the rules. Let me say I have 3 children and love children BUT when I go to the effort (and it did take some effort) to make sure I dine in Portofino with my husband the last thing I want to do is be sat at a table within 2 feet of 2 children dining with their parents. Why do some people always have to be the exception to the rule. I truly believe I would have enjoyed my dinner more having been surrounded by adults and adult conversations instead of listening to what went on in the OA club. I know I was kindly reminded when making my reservations that no one under the age of 13 should be with us. If you feel the need to eat with your children then do it OUTSIDE of Portofino or Chops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixCruiser Posted April 9, 2006 #2 Share Posted April 9, 2006 I would have demanded some of my money back! ### Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorenceItaly Posted April 9, 2006 #3 Share Posted April 9, 2006 However, imo, fault lies with RCI management for allowing the children into Portofinos. I hope you wrote this on your comment card. Marie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted April 9, 2006 #4 Share Posted April 9, 2006 I agree that while the parents should have known better, the crew in that dining room should have turned them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caviargal Posted April 9, 2006 #5 Share Posted April 9, 2006 And this the single biggest reason I no longer choose RCI for my personal travel. I have had several cruises now where kids were allowed in the areas designated for adults only and the RCI staff did nothing, despite numerous complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curiouscat Posted April 9, 2006 #6 Share Posted April 9, 2006 Interesting. Last year my husband and I (who are childfree) went on the navigator and the staff kept shooing the kids out of the nite clubs after 10. We were pleasantly surprised. The parents however had a dumbfounded look on their face when they can't bring an 6 yr old to a nite club... Duh! I guess it is sooo dependent on the crew... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribbean dreams Posted April 10, 2006 #7 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I bring my kids cruising every year but i do NOT bring them or let them enter any adult area and can not understand why other parents think their children are an exception to the rules. All Cruiselines should take notice of this problem and get a grip on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the plumbers wife Posted April 10, 2006 #8 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I will be crusing with two kids of my own and they will not be allowed to go where they are not suppose to be. The cruise lines should try to follow through, but I feel its the PARENTS job to follow the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAKaye Posted April 10, 2006 #9 Share Posted April 10, 2006 No, we depend on the cruise line to uphold its rules. Sadly, there will never be an end to cloddish, careless, self-centered behavior on the part of some passengers/parents. Leslie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted April 10, 2006 #10 Share Posted April 10, 2006 No, we depend on the cruise line to uphold its rules. Sadly, there will never be an end to cloddish, careless, self-centered behavior on the part of some passengers/parents. Leslie It is rather disturbing to hear that RCCL did not enforce the rules in the specialty restaurants. Is that a hint for the passengers who want an adult dining atmosphere to seek other places? To me it is a foot in the door for every parent to take their children younger than 13. I guess it will then be known as a "family restaurant".:( What a shame that RCCL has no backbone and shuns their own rules.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmich068 Posted April 10, 2006 #11 Share Posted April 10, 2006 They ask how old the kid is, the parent will just snap back "13" Unless RCCL looks up every person in their computer when they book a Portifino reservation, i don't see them being able to do much. Some people look older, some look younger. Now if you are talking about obviously young kids, that should not be allowed. But if an 11 year old gets in, the parents probably would have said he was 13 had RCCL asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccaneergirl Posted April 10, 2006 #12 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I find that parents think their children should be the exception to the rule in every day life! I am a teacher and parents think that their children are so wonderful that they should be allowed where they are not suppose to be! Where did this come from? When I was a kid, my parents were more than happy to leave me at home and go out without me.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted April 10, 2006 #13 Share Posted April 10, 2006 They ask how old the kid is, the parent will just snap back "13" Unless RCCL looks up every person in their computer when they book a Portifino reservation, i don't see them being able to do much. Some people look older, some look younger. Now if you are talking about obviously young kids, that should not be allowed. But if an 11 year old gets in, the parents probably would have said he was 13 had RCCL asked. Those SeaPass cards keep the younger ones out of the discos. No reason why they can't be swiped going in to restaurants. The information must be on them someplace. I also feel RCCL should figure out a way to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmich068 Posted April 10, 2006 #14 Share Posted April 10, 2006 the SeaPass isn't swiped when going into the disco. They use their Punch system.... 0 Punch = 21+ 1 Punch = 18-20 2 Punch = -18 I'm not sure how they punch it when the waiver has been signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted April 10, 2006 #15 Share Posted April 10, 2006 The "one-hole" is for a person 18-20 years of age who has parent/guardian permission to drink beer and wine. An 18-20 year old WITHOUT that permission has two holes punched in the card, since it signifies "NOT allowed to purchase any alcohol". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenOfIndiana Posted April 10, 2006 #16 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Is there a link to a list of all the age-restricted place and times on the ships?(example: teen disco times, pool times, hot tub, etc?) This is the first time taking a kid with (15 year old boy) and I never paid attention (except when annoyed) to the rules. I want to let him know ahead of time what is what. He's a well-behaved straight A honor student, but tends to be a little clueless with "I didn't know excuses" lately..LOL Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted April 10, 2006 #17 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Pam, there is no "list" as such. Your 15 year old may not go into the Solarium area (unless you are on a ship that has a snack grill in there, then he's allowed in to get food, and then leave). He's allowed in the teen facilities, and you're not. :D He's not allowed in the night club after 10 or 11, depending on the ship and the sailing. He probably isn't allowed in the cigar club, but why would he want to go there? You may want to think carefully about letting him go to Quest. Mine didn't go until he was 16, but that was just by happenstance. He's not supposed to be out unattended (read: without you) after 1 P.M., unless part of an official teen activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmerelda Posted April 10, 2006 #18 Share Posted April 10, 2006 This was one of the very things that put a damper on my honeymoon last year on a Carnival Cruise. Yes...I am a mom...of two wonderful boys..and I now have a stepson....yes...I do love children. However, I have no respect for these parents that purposely do not follow rules and have them in "adult only" areas. We tried three times last year to get into an 'adult only' hot tub on the Valor on our honeymoon. Each time...we were faced with a parent with not one but 2+ kids with them in the tub....grrrrrr. When I did finally complain...the crew member looks at me dumbfounded and says "well..they are with their parents...not much I can do.."........duuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....what morons. As a single parent...I never took my boys where they were not supposed to be on any cruise ship or any where else for that matter. Best sign I've ever seen: "the best thing your kids can inherit from you is a good example..." Many parents have no clue what that is sadly enough. Esmerelda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted April 10, 2006 #19 Share Posted April 10, 2006 the SeaPass isn't swiped when going into the disco. They use their Punch system.... 0 Punch = 21+ 1 Punch = 18-20 2 Punch = -18 I'm not sure how they punch it when the waiver has been signed. I should have specified not the adult disco.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoFromFL Posted April 10, 2006 #20 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I find that parents think their children should be the exception to the rule in every day life! I am a teacher and parents think that their children are so wonderful that they should be allowed where they are not suppose to be! Where did this come from? When I was a kid, my parents were more than happy to leave me at home and go out without me.:eek: Here is a different twist on the subject: My parents were just the opposite. Perhaps it was because they tried for 17 years before they were able to have me, but they took me to all the adult functions. At 4 and 5, I had to "sit still like a young lady" and order from adult menus and know the proper utensil to use when dining. They dragged me to adult parties and places where NO child should go. While this may have been good training, as a child, I HATED it. I longed for being left home with a babysitter or to go to "kid" stuff. My kids are never allowed to go to adult only areas. One of the biggest pouting sessions my daughter ever had was at a resort where the sign on the hot tub said "No one under 16 allowed." My SIL let her 5yo granddaughter go in anyway. I was firm with my daughter that "we" follow the rules. I agree that parents should police their children, but if they don't/won't, the cruiseline needs to for the comfort of other pax. Sure, there are things the kids may want to do, but I believe that kids are best left to do "kid" stuff, even if they do know how to behave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachchick Posted April 10, 2006 #21 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Pam, there is no "list" as such. Your 15 year old may not go into the Solarium area (unless you are on a ship that has a snack grill in there, then he's allowed in to get food, and then leave). He's allowed in the teen facilities, and you're not. :D He's not allowed in the night club after 10 or 11, depending on the ship and the sailing. He probably isn't allowed in the cigar club, but why would he want to go there? You may want to think carefully about letting him go to Quest. Mine didn't go until he was 16, but that was just by happenstance. He's not supposed to be out unattended (read: without you) after 1 P.M., unless part of an official teen activity. Carol: I think, perhaps, that you meant 1 a.m.? I mean you are almost always perfect, so this must have been just a little typo. (OTOH, there are some teens who could use supervision 24/7, so you never know.:D) beachchick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmich068 Posted April 10, 2006 #22 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Curfew will be used if security suspects your 15 year old's "ship posse" is up to no good, but if they are just minding their own buisness not annoying anybody, they won't enforce it (from the mouth of an explorer security guard). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcur Posted April 10, 2006 #23 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Yes, the well behaved ones do get by with stuff. My youngest DS and I went on a cruise with his best friends extended family. They were both 17, and not interested in drinking, but looooooved those video blackjack machines in the casino. The cashier left them alone until they tried to get change. Then she had to ask how old they were and booted them out. I went in later to apologize, and she said as long as they look close to the right age, sit at one machine and don't make noise or trouble, they let it go. But, she had to check on them when they came to the cage. Now, that's nice, but I agree that no children should be allowed in adult-only areas, and the parents that force this upon the staff are just looking for a way to have their fun, regardless of whether their children should, or even want to, be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted April 10, 2006 #24 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Carol: I think, perhaps, that you meant 1 a.m.? I mean you are almost always perfect, so this must have been just a little typo. (OTOH, there are some teens who could use supervision 24/7, so you never know.:D) beachchick Drat, you caught me in an error, Jean! Or maybe it was a Freudian-slip-of-the-fingers????? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandis Posted April 10, 2006 #25 Share Posted April 10, 2006 the SeaPass isn't swiped when going into the disco. Actually, on our Brilliance cruise in the Mediterranean, they had a card reader machine (which they also use for boarding and disembarkation) at the entrance to the disco (Viking Crown) and checked the SeaPasses of the younger guests. Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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