crt37 Posted June 28, 2008 #26 Share Posted June 28, 2008 If only the smoke would stay within the 2%, everyone would be happy! Exactly! If smokers want to ruin their own health, fine. But they shouldn't be allowed to harm others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crt37 Posted June 28, 2008 #27 Share Posted June 28, 2008 As long as there are smoking and nonsmoking sections in public places onboard' date=' that should suffice. There's room enough for everyone, for sure.[img']http://www.websmileys.com/sm/smoking/rauch12.gif[/img] There isn't room enough for everyone if a smokers toxic smoke is forced on those who don't want to be exposed to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Cruz Chic Posted June 28, 2008 #28 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Rick......have a safe trip home from across the pond. ;) I'd love to hear about the rest of your cruise! *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON M. Posted June 28, 2008 #29 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Over/Under on the closing of this thread is 87. Come on get those stats on SHS posted fast,I bet the under in Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON M. Posted June 28, 2008 #30 Share Posted June 28, 2008 There isn't room enough for everyone if a smokers toxic smoke is forced on those who don't want to be exposed to it. No one is FORCED to be exposed to the hundreds of toxins in the air. Don't ever leave your house and you will be safe. Oh, I forgot 25,000 people die every year from Radon Gas seeping through the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Jake Posted June 28, 2008 #31 Share Posted June 28, 2008 No one is FORCED to be exposed to the hundreds of toxins in the air. Don't ever leave your house and you will be safe. Oh, I forgot 25,000 people die every year from Radon Gas seeping through the ground. Twice that many croak from the Filthy Smoking Habit.Of couse Smokers are at MUCH higher risks of Radon Gas Deaths than the Non-Smoker.Just another reason not to pick up the Insidious Habit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crt37 Posted June 28, 2008 #32 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Come on get those stats on SHS posted fast,I bet the under in Vegas. OK, if you insist. Second-hand smoke Secondhand Smoke Fact Sheet - American Lung Association site ACS :: Secondhand Smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON M. Posted June 28, 2008 #33 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Twice that many croak from the Filthy Smoking Habit.Of couse Smokers are at MUCH higher risks of Radon Gas Deaths than the Non-Smoker.Just another reason not to pick up the Insidious Habit[/quote Quick Captain, call your boyfriend Gonzo before this thread is closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Jake Posted June 28, 2008 #34 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I'm going out for a day of motorcycle riding and eating seafood - try not to start the smoking/non-smoking flame war before I get back :rolleyes: I'm going out for Maryland Crabs.Keep this open til I get home----BT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crt37 Posted June 28, 2008 #35 Share Posted June 28, 2008 many that we talked to, just wanted to know where they can pay the $200.00 to be able to smoke in their cabins. This sort of misses the point. Who wants to inhabit a room after some smoker has been in there spewing their nasty exhaust hither and yon? Puke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON M. Posted June 28, 2008 #36 Share Posted June 28, 2008 OK, if you insist. Second-hand smoke Secondhand Smoke Fact Sheet - American Lung Association site ACS :: Secondhand Smoke Ok, Ill play, real facts not junk statistics.http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/Editorials/Vol-1/e1-4.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassic Posted June 28, 2008 #37 Share Posted June 28, 2008 People who don't look so great in swim wear shouldn't be allowed to be on deck either. Those without tans should not be allowed to board. The morbidly obese who ride around on their little motorized wheelchairs shouldn't be allowed onboard at all. Only healthy marathon runners and the "beautiful people" should be allowed on ships. Butter and butter substitutes shouldn't be allowed in the cooking, nor should sugar, salt, and other fats. Red meat should be banned as well, as should seafood (risk of mercury poisoning). Alcohol should be banned as well. Too many people can't handle their liquor. So that's what cruising will look like in the future...boiled chicken and celery- breakfast, lunch, and dinner. And the only drink will be water. See, things can go too far in this "PC" game...;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark290 Posted June 28, 2008 #38 Share Posted June 28, 2008 People who don't look so great in swim wear shouldn't be allowed to be on deck either. Those without tans should not be allowed to board. The morbidly obese who ride around on their little motorized wheelchairs shouldn't be allowed onboard at all. Only healthy marathon runners and the "beautiful people" should be allowed on ships. Butter and butter substitutes shouldn't be allowed in the cooking, nor should sugar, salt, and other fats. Red meat should be banned as well, as should seafood (risk of mercury poisoning). Alcohol should be banned as well. Too many people can't handle their liquor. So that's what cruising will look like in the future...boiled chicken and celery- breakfast, lunch, and dinner. And the only drink will be water. See, things can go too far in this "PC" game...;) Wow. What a great way to look at this situation. I can't figure out if you are a rocket scientist or a brain surgeon. Does the term apples and oranges mean anything to you ? Thread closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_K Posted June 28, 2008 #39 Share Posted June 28, 2008 There isn't room enough for everyone if a smokers toxic smoke is forced on those who don't want to be exposed to it.RCI's smoking policies are there for you to peruse prior to booking a vacation, if after reading them you still chose to cruise with RCI, the smoke was not forced on you, you accepted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berwyn Posted June 28, 2008 #40 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Twice that many croak from the Filthy Smoking Habit.Of couse Smokers are at MUCH higher risks of Radon Gas Deaths than the Non-Smoker.Just another reason not to pick up the Insidious Habit[/quoteQuick Captain, call your boyfriend Gonzo before this thread is closed. I was thinking the same thing. Where's Gonzo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryfmCol Posted June 29, 2008 #41 Share Posted June 29, 2008 I'm going out for a day of motorcycle riding and eating seafood - try not to start the smoking/non-smoking flame war before I get back :rolleyes: Can I go Allie? PLEASE??? PULEEEEEE-ZE? Can I? Can I? I'll pay for the seafood... YUM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisePRN Posted June 29, 2008 #42 Share Posted June 29, 2008 extra butter and a large diet coke :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark290 Posted June 29, 2008 #43 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Can I go Allie? PLEASE??? PULEEEEEE-ZE? Can I? Can I? I'll pay for the seafood... YUM! You will have to make sure to meet her in one of the states that doesn't offend her with a restrictive smoking policy. You know she will not spend her money in a state where she does not agree with their smoking policy. The freedom to puff, worth fighting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Jake Posted June 29, 2008 #44 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Ok, Ill play, real facts not junk statistics.http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/Editorials/Vol-1/e1-4.htm 20th Century Fairy Tale:D BTW The Blue Crabs were Fat and Yummy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Jake Posted June 29, 2008 #45 Share Posted June 29, 2008 [ Quick Captain, call your boyfriend Gonzo before this thread is closed. Be nice WWJD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllieInMD Posted June 29, 2008 #46 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Steamed mussels (I don't eat them but SO does) and a dozen large steamed crabs - couple of beers - was wonderful! mmmmm........fresh MD seafood. ;) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllieInMD Posted June 29, 2008 #47 Share Posted June 29, 2008 now now, I came back and there are 3 pages of posts - there's plenty of fuel without lil ole me! How can it start before the fuel gets back from riding and eating ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllieInMD Posted June 29, 2008 #48 Share Posted June 29, 2008 *sigh* sorry, just have to counter the politically correct junk science the 3000 SHS deaths everyone quotes was from an EPA study that was determined to be junk science in federal court, which said that the EPA manipulated data to come to the conclusion they wished to support - even tho the data showed different. http://www.forces.org/evidence/epafraud/files/osteen.htm The long term large study commissioned by the WHO (World Health Organization) showed how little risk there is from SHS (called ETS in Europe), when all the non-smoking crazies blew up over it they tried to bury the report - and spin the conclusions. They were called out on it by the Wall Street Journal - European edition - you can't get to it without a WSJ subscription - but here it is reprinted: http://www.junkscience.com/news/euwsjets.htm But you can find the actual data and the conclusions at the US National Institute of Health: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9776409?dopt=Abstract Abstract with conclusions (emphasis added by me): RESULTS: ETS exposure during childhood was not associated with an increased risk of lung cancer (odds ratio [OR] for ever exposure = 0.78; 95% confidence interval [CI] = 0.64-0.96). The OR for ever exposure to spousal ETS was 1.16 (95% CI = 0.93-1.44). No clear dose-response relationship could be demonstrated for cumulative spousal ETS exposure. The OR for ever exposure to workplace ETS was 1.17 (95% CI = 0.94-1.45), with possible evidence of increasing risk for increasing duration of exposure. No increase in risk was detected in subjects whose exposure to spousal or workplace ETS ended more than 15 years earlier. Ever exposure to ETS from other sources was not associated with lung cancer risk. Risks from combined exposure to spousal and workplace ETS were higher for squamous cell carcinoma and small-cell carcinoma than for adenocarcinoma, but the differences were not statistically significant. CONCLUSIONS: Our results indicate no association between childhood exposure to ETS and lung cancer risk. We did find weak evidence of a dose-response relationship between risk of lung cancer and exposure to spousal and workplace ETS. There was no detectable risk after cessation of exposure. People may not like being exposed to smoke, and that's ok - but to say minor exposure on a cruise ship or anywhere else in a social setting is a health risk is bunk, bull, and been disproved by actual science. People just follow whatever they are told is the truth. OK, if you insist Second-hand smoke Secondhand Smoke Fact Sheet - American Lung Association site ACS :: Secondhand Smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllieInMD Posted June 29, 2008 #49 Share Posted June 29, 2008 But we aren't talking about SMOKERS - we are adults and have that choice. The topic is second hand smoke. And the evidence just ain't there that it is the huge health issue it's made out to be. Twice that many croak from the Filthy Smoking Habit.Of couse Smokers are at MUCH higher risks of Radon Gas Deaths than the Non-Smoker.Just another reason not to pick up the Insidious Habit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllieInMD Posted June 29, 2008 #50 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Me too -they were expensive -but excellent! I'm going out for Maryland Crabs.Keep this open til I get home----BT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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