AZjohn Posted March 9, 2009 #1 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I guess I’m not on top of things here, but does HAL have members here on CC like RCCL’s “Royal Champions”? http://expertcruiser.com/advice/paid-cheerleaders-does-royal-caribbeans-viral-campaign-cross-the-line/ Thanks, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhannah Posted March 9, 2009 #2 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I have never heard nor seen evidence of this so far as HAL is concerned. I think such a practice destroys the objectivity these boards are supposed to provide for us. We get enough "hype" through advertising. We need fellow posters who are, while kind, very frank and realistic about their onboard experiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZjohn Posted March 9, 2009 Author #3 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I have never heard nor seen evidence of this so far as HAL is concerned. I think such a practice destroys the objectivity these boards are supposed to provide for us. We get enough "hype" through advertising. We need fellow posters who are, while kind, very frank and realistic about their onboard experiences. I got to tell you Jim I feel dumbfounded reading this on another thread. I had no idea:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxguy77 Posted March 9, 2009 #4 Share Posted March 9, 2009 They have some VERY loyal fans (for a good reason), but I don't think they get anything from favorable posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u4ea Posted March 9, 2009 #5 Share Posted March 9, 2009 All the threads regarding this are getting pulled from CC by the mods. It's sad that certain relevant topics are not allowed.:( Objectivity is limited. Mark... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZjohn Posted March 9, 2009 Author #6 Share Posted March 9, 2009 They have some VERY loyal fans (for a good reason), but I don't think they get anything from favorable posts. Do a search on this site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZjohn Posted March 9, 2009 Author #7 Share Posted March 9, 2009 All the threads regarding this are getting pulled from CC by the mods. It's sad that certain relevant topics are not allowed.:(Mark... Why are they getting pulled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl513 Posted March 9, 2009 #8 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I don't believe we have any paid stooges on this forum - yet - and hope we never get any. Although I love HAL, I definitely would NOT be one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u4ea Posted March 9, 2009 #9 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I'm guessing it's bad press, these boards are free and CC makes money from Cruises. Mark.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted March 9, 2009 #10 Share Posted March 9, 2009 It never would have crossed my mind that Cruise Critic would allow this. If it's true, then there is no way to trust in whatever is written. I have to wonder if, because of Cruise Critic's relationship with RCCL, it is limited to that board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u4ea Posted March 9, 2009 #11 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I don't believe we have any paid stooges on this forum - yet - and hope we never get any. I would definitely NOT be one!! Come on John, everybody's got a price:eek:;):D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowPrincess Posted March 9, 2009 #12 Share Posted March 9, 2009 It's too bad if the CC mods feel this reflects badly on CC... in fact, IMHO, CC may feel they've been duped by these posters. This kind of thing needs the light of day. Anyone can pretend to be anyone they choose on the internet, and caution is always advisable. It will be unfortunate if this topic isn't allowed to be discussed -- there's no fault to CC. The only culpable ones are RCI and their marketing morons and the 50 who have been rewarded for being vocal supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted March 9, 2009 #13 Share Posted March 9, 2009 No way, no how!!! I post everything I post because that is what I think and how I feel. No one has ever offered nor would I ever accept goodies asking me to post a certain way. They don't need me or anyone else doing that. Their product, their ships, their crews are their assets....... HAL does not need any 'paid posters' IMO I do believe that some have met folks on the ships maybe not have met and some have mentioned going to a cocktail party because of the Meet and Greet but that is a WHOLE Different thing than asking someone to post on these boards any suggested messages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted March 9, 2009 #14 Share Posted March 9, 2009 What I post is strickly from me -- and my thoughts. Paid -- HMMM -- maybe a couple of million dollars and I might be convinced to say what they want me to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl513 Posted March 9, 2009 #15 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Come on John, everybody's got a price:eek:;):DThat reminds me of an old joke, where the punch line is: "We've already established what you are, now we're just haggling about the price." :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted March 9, 2009 #16 Share Posted March 9, 2009 John........ GO To your Room. You and Copper seem to be getting into a lot of trouble lately. :D (Think it was just yesterday, I sent him packing to HIS room. :D) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZjohn Posted March 9, 2009 Author #17 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Well, I’m glad to hear from some of the regulars that your not part of this. And I take people for their word, regardless if this is the internet or not. But I still feel shocked how RCCL has done this. Thanks, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u4ea Posted March 9, 2009 #18 Share Posted March 9, 2009 But I still feel shocked how RCCL has done this.Thanks, John Don't be. Talk is cheap, integrity is demonstrative.:cool: Thus, economic "free fall" Mark... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakalina Posted March 9, 2009 #19 Share Posted March 9, 2009 amazing. What on earth can you trust in nowadays? I suppose I am naive but I have pretty much taken posters at their word. I never saw any reason to disbelieve anyone. I understand that the boards are public but to accept money and/or bribes for favorable commments. . . I wonder how many other lines do this kind of thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceanwench Posted March 9, 2009 #20 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Well, I’m glad to hear from some of the regulars that your not part of this. And I take people for their word, regardless if this is the internet or not. But I still feel shocked how RCCL has done this.Thanks, John Do you think that anyone involved in such behavior would voluntarily admit to it? That would be almost suicidal! :eek: The person would lose all his/her perks, plus credibility he/she has worked so hard to establish. Funny, I had a discussion about this sort of thing a few weeks ago with some of the people who work on my employer's Web site. One woman said they refer to such people as "online guerillas" or "Web guerillas" and said the practice is pretty widespread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted March 9, 2009 #21 Share Posted March 9, 2009 HOw does anyone really know it is true? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl513 Posted March 9, 2009 #22 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Well, I’m glad to hear from some of the regulars that your not part of this. And I take people for their word, regardless if this is the internet or not. Of course you do know that there are about a dozen current or past employees of HAL that do post fairly often, and they don't always identify themselves as such on every post. ManBehindTheCurtain, DutchByAssociation, sodomojo, Philip217, and Sungoddess are a few that come to mind quickly, but there are others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolaSwamp Posted March 9, 2009 #23 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Hmm. I consider those 50 people as RCCL employees. They are paid to promote their employer. Nothing wrong with that. There's no law that CC posters cannot be biased. It's up to all of us to be discerning about what we read on the internet. Too many people think "I read it online, so it must be true!". The reviews that say nothing but how WONDERFUL a cruise line is, with nary a mention of what could be done better... I don't put much stock in those. Nor do I trust those reviews that just gripe about EVERYTHING. Crud. I think I just shot myself in the foot in terms of being invited to be a HAL Champion. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrp96 Posted March 9, 2009 #24 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Hmm. I consider those 50 people as RCCL employees. They are paid to promote their employer. Nothing wrong with that. There's no law that CC posters cannot be biased. Umm, the Royal Champions are NOT paid by Royal Caribbean. Yes, some did receive an invite to a pre-inaugural event, but not all. Most haven't received anything at all other than the email inviting them to be a Royal Champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lettienets Posted March 9, 2009 #25 Share Posted March 9, 2009 It never would have crossed my mind that Cruise Critic would allow this. If it's true, then there is no way to trust in whatever is written. I have to wonder if, because of Cruise Critic's relationship with RCCL, it is limited to that board? Hi Ruth, What is CC's relationship to RCCL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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