I tend to agree, but I can't believe they are no wine waiters at dinner. That is such a basic thing. And Megabear you are also right in that cruising has totally lost its glamour for me. We will do the October one, unless something else happens, like they sell the ship, which has already happened to us twice and I think that will be it, unless a Fred one appeals at the last minute. Our friend just did a cruise with Fred and all the normal things were happening on Bolette. Turndown, wine at dinner etc.