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...but I would NEVER accept that a cruiseline should have the same access to the contents of my suitcases just to check if I have a bottle of alcohol secreted therein.

The cruise contract gives princess the right to search your cabin. Why be concerned about JUST your suitcase?

Admittedly, you could find that more restrictive policy in print prior to the "new" rule.

 

There you go.

 

The confusion was because it was never enforced.

The people "bragging" about wheeling on a case were not "bending" any rules, let alone getting away with murder. The alcohol restrictions (and this thread) pertain to bringing hard liquor on board.

 

The previous policy was one bottle of wine. (for the pedants

-- one bottle of wine for each pax of legal drinking age, which

may vary depending on the embarcation port)

 

The new policy is being as many bottles as you wish, but pay

corkage at embarcation.

 

So, if you were bringing a case on board previously, you were not

following the policy.

I doubt it went to gild the taps in the executive washroom at CCL, as you seem to be implying.

 

I'm sorry, I don't see your point.

 

I'm not implying anything, other than it's silly to expect cnbc

to report on every change a company makes, as you suggest.

 

Over the years, there have been lots of cut-backs, elimination

and raising of onboard prices, etc.

 

What Princess saves with each change might not be significant,

but I'm sure their goal is that the combination of all changes

deliver the profit margin they desire.

No, they report on material details of business activity. That's Wehwalt's point; revenue lost from the sneaking of alcohol is not material from the big picture point of view.

 

Every business is run by making thousands of decisions,

very few are ever reported.

 

Many are designed to save money / increase profits.

Individually, they are not interesting, nor reported.

 

For instance, Princess eliminated port day lunches as a cost savings.

Did cnbc report the effect of THAT?

I am a shareholder (100 shares, to get the OBC). I don't sneak, alcohol not being very important to me, and being, I hope, reasonably honest, but will not sit in judgment of others. I've yet to hear on CNBC when they've discussed Carnival (fairly often) that how many people sneak alcohol on board makes a material difference to my investment.

So you think that cnbc reports every detail of every business' activity?

Yes, I stand corrected. I thought Amtrak had opened up at FLL South. But the location between Broward and Davie Blvds. is even worse situation for the poster to get to train in time. So I still say "no, don't attempt it".

 

I would say that simply about taking the train! :)

 

On the other hand, there is no requirement that you

be at the train station 1-2 hours early, so you would

save time there.

 

Be in the first group of walk-offs, grab a cab, and I think

you could be at the train station in time.

Again, short answer: NO. The Amtrak station is west of I-95 and south of the airport/port. You'd never get there in time. Don't even attempt it!

That's Tri-rail. Amtrak is near Broward Blvd and I-95.

We are hardly abstemious (typed while drinking a Bud Lime Light), but we, too, are rule followers. The bottom line is that I don't like to sneak, won't sneak, can't stand the thought of sneaking. If I have that much trouble following the rules, I just won't go.

 

You are, of course, right!

 

(not directed at anyone in particular)

 

One thing I don't get -- there are many, many posts here

about the benefits of being a CCL shareholder, getting onboard

credit, etc.

 

Shouldn't the stockholders here be upset with people cheating,

rather than joining in?

Because the CCL shares are fast approaching a 52 week low.

And, you believe that that is due to the Princess liquor policy?

It's that way atthe vast majority of airports.

The twist on this is that it is for domestic flights.

The only way you can carry alcohol on a plane is if it is bought inside security at the airports duty free counter and delivered at boarding.

 

In New Hampshire, the liquor stores are state run.

Strange but true -- inside security at MHT, there is

a state liquor store, so you can purchase bottles and

take them with you.

 

Of course, consuming alcohol on a flight --- not provided by the flight crew

is a violation of FAA regulations.

 

Even stranger but true -- most states have open container

laws, and try and prevent drunk driving. New Hampshire

has state liquor stores in the highway rest areas.

 

I think many of our correspondents here would approve.

Thanks Gracie65 for sticking up for me... No I don't intend to blast the speakers so everyone can hear my music (you may not like my music)I am not an 18 year old. I will listen to it either in my cabin or in my EARS...so don't worry....

Must be because we are both from Mass

 

I guess what confused everyone about where you would be using

your speakers was what you wrote originally:

 

"I also just ordered a speaker for my Iphone that uses blue tooth to have some music by pool and on balcony... can't wait. "

 

I think a reasonable reader would conclude that you would be

using the speaker "by the pool and on balcony".

What next? Meters on the taps?

 

You have told us you won't be doing any future cruises

on Princess, so why do you care?

They are saying if you want to drink you will drink in their bar at their prices take it or lump it.

 

You seem to have actually grasped the policy.

 

You are, of course, overlooking the obvious. Princess will

be glad to sell you 375ml bottles of liquor from room service,

and you can drink in your cabin as you wish.

Who authorized them to go through my wife's bag without her present? Not even the TSA goes through bags without the owner present!!

 

You authorized them when you agreed to the passage contract:

 

"At embarkation, all luggage will be scanned for suspected alcohol in excess of the one bottle policy as provided herein. Your luggage will undergo a secondary inspection by a security team operating under CCTV (closed circuit surveillance) or in the event Your luggage is locked, You will be notified and are required to attend the secondary inspection where any alcohol found in violation of the one bottle policy will be removed and discarded."

 

As you can see, they will only notify you if they require you to unlock

the suitcase.

 

As for the TSA, they routinely open checked bags. I have arrived

home to find a card from the TSA inside an (airline) checked bag saying

that the bag had been opened. Why do you think there are "TSA locks"?

Hey, let's all put our latest sneaky tricks that didn't get caught out there to share!

Not just sneaky tricks, but the posts about how the policy wasn't enforced -- posting those comments might make someone in a higher position wonder way, and make sure it is enforced. Same with people posting that their coffee card wasn't marked with the date and voyage.

"It is Princess' property, it can set the rules"

 

 

Maybe princess should apply the same rules to their employees!

 

Want to know where to buy booze in port ?

 

Just follow an employee, they will buy numerous bottles and return to the ship. What is good for the goose is good for the gander!;)

 

Do you make this stuff up? Crew can bring back one bottle

of wine when boarding. If they bring back liquor, it is held

for them UNTIL THE END OF THEIR CONTRACT.

 

From time-to-time folks onboard ask me to purchase something

with the elite discount on the last day, so they can have a party

in their cabin.

wrong. It ends up in one of the ships bars and served to unsuspecting cruisers.

Does this mean you should water it down, before putting it in your suitcase?

What hotel has such ridiculous policies?

I stayed at a hotel that asked guests not to bring alcahol onto the premises. Unless alcahol is some sort of protected class, they are free to make whatever restrictions on their private property they wish. They host a lot of weddings, with large parties spending the night there. Apparently the large parties had large parties that disturbed the other guests.

They searched through your luggage without you present?

 

The current text on the luggage tag says:

"Luggage is subject to search."

I know. It's crazy to post. I honestly don't even think when the GPS is turned off and you 'take off' location it really goes away. I don't trust it. THe GPS is turned off on my friends phone and a child accidently called 911 and they knew exactly where the phone was (not that that is bad,however not truly off)

 

In the US 911 regulations require the wireless carrier to provide the

phones lat+long of the phone within 300 meters -- to emergency services.

They can do this with or without gps in the handset.

Does princess even have any ships sailing out of there at the moment?....I don't think so.

 

I think the first is Island Princess 10-October, then Coral Princess 13-October.

I also just ordered a speaker for my Iphone that uses blue tooth to have some music by pool and on balcony... can't wait.

 

I don't see how you could play music by the pool, and not disturb

others.

All the major cruise lines do have insurance for things like this, but the insurance rates are so high that they can only afford to insure for long term and major losses of revenue. The costs of this event will be very high - but not high enough to reach the deductible limits of the policy.

Essentially, Princess is self-insured for this problem. It will be another loss for Carnival Corp shareholders.

 

Thank you, Bruce. I always appreciate your insight here.