jonthomas

So Black Friday is on Nov 24. Does anyone remember what O usually does for Black Friday and is it worth waiting to book then. We will be on the ship from Nov 19 to Dec 4. Yes can book now using the 30 day rule but maybe waiting for Black Friday is the way to go. I do want to book a couple for the rest of 24 and a couple for 2025. Ever the optimist.

LHT, Im not counting on it. But has anyone asked O the question? I am waiting for an O rep to get back to me, he is asking the question for me. Can I apply the 250 OBC to a different cruise? It was a fully booked cruise, so there must be a lot of disgruntled people. Yes as I said before, this is much ado about nothing and need to be grateful that we are not having to deal with the really important things in life. Yes its only a cruise. It is an annoyance tho'. I would let it go much easier of could apply the 250 OBCs to a different cruise. NOT the inferior one that they are pushing that should have a much lower cost.

thank you for posting...

Yes I wonder if I can keep it to apply to a new booking. Will be calling O to get the answer, maybe as many times they have NO answers. My TA has no answers.

Will you call and speak to whoever to get the 250 applied to another cruise?

So what is your opinion, if we cancel would they give us anything towards booking another cruise? "Possibility O will be offering the more appealing itinerary over Xmas/New Year at much higher rates?" Agree with you completely!!! They must have realized that they can get much more for this itinerary so decided to cancel it outright. Cant imagine anyone would book the new 12 day offering unless they dont know what it replaced.

New itins come out the first week in November. You will get to see what will be out for Jan and Feb. Will see if there is a similar itinerary on the Vista and how much more it will be than the one they just cancelled.

All thoughts are appreciated even the ones about getting ones knickers in knots...lol....I was going to say I dont wear knickers but thats a whole other topic....lol..... I just think the original itinerary is costing O too much...the ABC, St Vincent etc have huge port charges, compared to Mexico. I looked for another itin similar to what we had, could not find many, mostly Mexico now. Yes could be a charter too. Not sure about how long to wait before approaching management about what they could do for us if we booked a totally different cruise, like Alaska. Probably absolutely NOTHING. But yes we will cancel, Mexico. Dont want to offend anyone that loves Mexico. Its just not our thing.

We have done that itinerary many times. To get away from our Canadian winters we welcome Aruba, Curacao and Bonaire as well as ST Vincent, etc. We dont welcome, Mexico, Roatan and Jamaica. You cant substitute these ports for what the 14 day offered and call it equal. The itinerary is just not comparable. Yes maybe wise to hold off till the Black Friday specials...but if memory serves me correctly, there really is nothing special about them.

Yes plenty of notice. So they are offering us an inferior itinerary and saying "As a courtesy, we will be automatically adjusting your booking on Vista’s 12-day "... as a courtesy....offering us a 12 day instead of 14 day and saying they will make the 2 day adjustment, as a courtesy....there is NO courtesy, it is a shorter cruise!!!

Dear Valued Travel Advisors, We would like to provide you with an advance copy of the notification that will be going out to all guests later today. We kindly request that you reach out to them today to ensure that they are aware of these important changes. VOYAGE CHANGE NOTIFICATION Dear Valued Guests, We would like to advise you of an important update to your upcoming cruise vacation aboard Vista. As a result of scheduling changes, your 14-day voyage departing on December 5, 2024, has been revised to a 12-day voyage. As a courtesy, we will be automatically adjusting your booking on Vista’s 12-day roundtrip Miami itinerary departing on December 5, 2024, at a new lower fare reflecting the revised voyage length. You will receive an updated invoice once these changes are processed. In appreciation for your understanding of this change, we will be providing a $250 shipboard credit per suite or stateroom, which will be automatically added to your onboard account. The revised voyage will explore the best of the Western Caribbean, complemented by calls on the Cayman Islands, Jamaica and the Bahamas. The destinations featured afford a wide array of adventures for every traveler, from enjoying beautiful beaches and spectacular coral reefs to exploring ancient Maya sites and island spice farms. Two full days in the Yucatan Peninsula will allow for deeper cultural exploration with numerous Maya ruins or eco-adventures to some of the world’s most stunning coral reefs, rich in marine life. Likewise, Roatan offers an abundance of eco-centric tours, and from Santo Tomas, you may choose to visit the fabled and legendary Tikal. Of course, we believe our bespoke exclusive destination of Harvest Caye is a jewel in the crown of the Western Caribbean.

This is the letter our TA got. Notice they say that as a "courtesy" they will refund for the two days...What courtesy? Awful !!!

and this is what we had DAY PORT ARRIVE DEPART Dec 5 Thu Miami, Florida, United States Embark 1 PM 6 PM Dec 6 Fri Cruising the Old Bahama Channel Dec 7 Sat Cruising the Caribbean Sea Dec 8 Sun Oranjestad, Aruba 10 AM 11 PM Dec 9 Mon Willemstad, Curacao 7 AM 10 PM Dec 10 Tue Kralendijk, Bonaire 7 AM 2 PM Dec 11 Wed St. George's, Grenada 1 PM 11 PM Dec 12 Thu Kingstown, St. Vincent 8 AM 6 PM Dec 13 Fri Bridgetown, Barbados 8 AM 6 PM Dec 14 Sat Roseau, Dominica 8 AM 7 PM Dec 15 Sun St. John's, Antigua 8 AM 11 PM Dec 16 Mon Philipsburg, St. Maarten 7 AM 4 PM Dec 17 Tue Cruising the Atlantic Ocean Dec 18 Wed Cruising the Atlantic Ocean Dec 19 Thu Miami, Florida, United States Disembark 8 AM Voyage Map

here is the new 12 day itin... Below is your revised itinerary: DATE PORT ARRIVE DEPART December 5, 2024 Miami, Florida Embark 6 pm December 6, 2024 At Sea December 7, 2024 Cozumel, Mexico 7 am 4 pm December 8, 2024 Roatan, Honduras 9 am 6 pm December 9, 2024 Santo Tomas, Guatemala 8 am 9 pm December 10, 2024 Harvest Caye, Belize 7 am 5 pm December 11, 2024 Costa Maya, Mexico 8 am 6 pm December 12, 2024 At Sea December 13, 2024 George Town, Grand Cayman 7 am 5 pm December 14, 2024 Montego Bay, Jamaica 7 am 4 pm December 15, 2024 At Sea December 16, 2024 Great Stirrup Cay, Bahamas 9 am 6 pm December 17, 2024 Miami, Florida Disembark

Our TA got advanced notice and immediately forwarded it to us.

It was a great itinerary, The ABC, Grenada, St Vincent, Barbados, Dominica, Antigua and St Martin, Instead they are offering us a 12 Western Caribbean, to Mexico and Roatan and 250 OBCs and an adjustment for the 2 days. The 12 day itinerary does not compare to the ABCs...we would not get off the ship in Mexico. We will probably be cancelling. Any thoughts?

Thats very disappointing that you didnt get to go to the market. We have done a private tour of Casablanca, 6 years ago. It was wonderful. But now I am not sure I would want to risk it. You were late getting back but because it is a ships tour, there was no issue with being late. I organized the private tour. There were only 20 of us, with a retired college professor as the guide. It only cost $25 pp. incredible. Still tempted to go private, but perhaps not wise.

sorry, short for itineraries....

Awful and not held accountable.

looking to sail after Dec 2024...mostly TAs and a winter Carib.....

ah....thank you.... we are on a cruise Nov 19...so that falls within the 30 day rule to be able to book with the perks as if on the ship....hope that rule has not vanished....

An O rep told me Oct 12. Well that has come and gone. Any other thoughts?

Yes we will do the same or bring it to dinner when we dine with others, perhaps they will want it. I am assuming you are allowed to bring it to dinner, but maybe not.

ah....ok...didnt think so....lol...

I could tolerate some wine, but has to be very sweet, almost like a liqueur. Any suggestions that we might trade for? Some sparking wines are also sweet. But I have no clue which ones.