Well...you are entitled to your OPINION, however, my question was rhetoric....but you may be right with some of this....I've witnessed a horse race by the pool about 25 YEARS AGO. So your 50 cruises may take in some of this. Currently, and I'd say within the last 10-20 years, Celebrity has become somewhat less 'cruiser participant' regarding pool games except for the crew/cruiser pool volley-ball. I'm up there with your number of cruises as well, over almost all their ships, spending most of my day on the pool deck so have observed changes. BTW, we did buy a horse that long ago and it won....it WAS fun. And your rude comment re 'low class and crude' insults a great many X cruisers who enjoy or participated in the NW and other games.