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Absolutely my observation as well.

As that will be before we are on Sky in July, I'll be looking forward to that report. Hoping the newer ship has a better feel for you.

Just be aware that the Vibe is a quieter type of place. There is no pool, so no pool games or DJs spinning records and people dancing and all that party scene. It has hot tubs, no kids so no kids hanging out in the hot tubs, a private bar and dedicated bar servers, private bathrooms (so generally clean), and a consistent crowd that tends to get to know one another, if you want.

As stated, card access. In December, wrist bands were not used on Viva. Previously my experience is that wrist bands didn't need to be worn. They are very good at getting to know who should and shouldn't be there.

Yes!!! Although some try to throw me out of the club when I declare that the Dio/H&H lineup was my favorite. Saw that lineup perform at the Hartford Civic Center, front row - awesome show.

Wait a second, I just got finished reading your "Live" from your other Process cruise and how you wouldn't do them again. 🙂

Not only can we not redesign a ship, we really shouldn't waste our time commenting on the good or bad of a ship's design. Everything is designed correctly because maritime engineers did the designing and we're not maritime engineers. 😉

yeah, sorry, went right over my head for sure...

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Aren't those the two guys who got in a big tiff on NCL because the Haven concierge wouldn't let them eat in the Haven restaurant at a time when they felt they should be able to eat in the Haven? As I recall, they were not staying in Haven.

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This is the complimentary NY Strip on the MDR menus every night we are talking about? Flavorful? How could you tell it was flavorful, wasn't it buried under that heavily salted brown sauce? Just curious, how recently were you experiencing these steaks?

I agree we shouldn't expect "Michelin star graded", but there is no reason they can't serve some of the best meals those 2000-3000 passengers have ever had. Cruise ships used to serve many hundreds of covers in a sitting and the food was always some of the best you'd ever been served. If a kitchen can serve hundreds, it's a matter of continuing the scale to serve thousands. It can be done. Yes, I know the cost is not insignificant and the mass market cruise lines demographic won't want to pay the higher fares - I get it. My point is, very high quality, some of the best you'd ever had, can be served to 2000-3000+ fellow passengers.

I didn't say that you said that. I didn't say anything close to that. If you are going to berate people, try to comprehend the conversation and stay on topic and not create new ones.

Well now I need to go read your "live" report... 😉

Speak for yourself. I am "anyone" and I have no problem answering OPs question and do no agree that it's none of their business. I also believe what other people do, as asked by the OP, is extremely relevant and appropriate to ask. If you don't want to answer, if you think what YOU do is none of OPs business, that's your prerogative but you don't speak for me or anyone else. @dominicr We do not leave any tip in the MDR. We would if something happened that had the wait staff going above and beyond in service to us, but, I don't recall that ever happening. That's also the case with just about everyone else on board the ship that we interact with.

We're doing our first Princess in July (Norwegian fjords) as part of our "trying other lines" effort. Glad to hear you enjoyed them.

In December they had beef on 4 of 7 nights on Viva that we either ate in or looked at MDR. But considering how awful the MDRs have become, I guess I'm not surprised if they are in fact eliminating beef. Sigh.

Agreed. Those three points do not make good business sense. Further, I would argue that holding a few for sale onboard makes even less sense for customer satisfaction. The old "mad dash" model was bad enough, but now they are going to continue the mad dash model except with far fewer availability? That sets up even more people for disappointment than the old method.

I'm sure you will find the cuts and decreases on NCL are similar to what you experienced on the other lines. Despite what some on this forum think, it is possible to discuss cuts and decreases and yet still enjoy the experience. I'm sure you will enjoy your cruise.

So if I just hand the young ladies $6 as a donation, does that all stay with the local troop?

So despite the shortcomings that @JamieLogical listed, because you don't care about those shortcomings, you stand by your statement that the quality of the NCL product is unchanged. What would it take for you to acknowledge a reduction in the NCL product quality?

So those of us who are identifying various decreases in quality, etc are "choosing" to do so? Does that mean that you are choosing to ignore them? Becuase that sure is what it seems like you are doing, which of course is fine. And while I know you didn't direct your comment at me, I am one of those who has been vocal about all of the decreases. How I "feel" I haven't communicated, I can't imagine anyone cares. However, I have said that we are trying other lines and we are continuing to sail NCL, so, that may say a bit about how we "feel".

For Vibe? Did you just tell us in another thread you had to deal with Guest Services to get yours?

As someone who doesn't wish to cruise NCL without the Vibe, my suggestion to you is to check daily because people do cancel. Check frequently as you get close to final payment date (if you aren't already past it).