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Splendor is technically in the Concorida Class, as it was suppose to go to Costa but was transferred to Carnival during the building process, and then became the one off Splendor Class. This is different because Venezia is still considered a new ship, came out the same year as Panorama, only sailed in China for about a year (2019-2020) and then only reentered service this past May (2022) in Turkey. Firenze even newer (2021) never made it to China and has only been in service in the Mediterranean.

I believe Costa referred to them as Venice Class as well but for marketing purposes it makes them stand out from their Carnival counterparts. Their livery will also be unique as well, Costa funnel stays and a navy bow with a gold stripe, etc which I think would be enough to put them in their own separate or sub class.

In case there was anything else I “neglected” to mention, From John Heald: CARNIVAL CRUISE LINE UNVEILS NEW DETAILS FOR CARNIVAL VENEZIA Ship Will Sail Year-Round from New York and Feature Unique Italian Cuisine, Special Staterooms, Exclusive Experiences NEW YORK, Dec. 12, 2022 – Carnival Cruise Line unveiled today new details about what guests can expect when they board the next ship to join the fleet, Carnival Venezia. Christine Duffy, president of Carnival Cruise Line, was joined by Carnival’s Director of New Build Product Development Glenn Aprile for a live virtual preview of the ship from acclaimed Italian restaurant Il Mulino in New York’s Greenwich Village, which underscored the ship’s Italian flair from the city where it will operate year-round. To watch a recording of the live event, click here. “Carnival Fun Italian Style is a new take on our recipe for creating memorable Carnival cruises, but certainly, fun will still be at the heart of everything we do on board. Guests will feel right at home on Carnival Venezia, with our friendly team members and many familiar venues and experiences on board, but the addition of several creative new concepts from dining and beverage to entertainment will surely offer some new favorites and further enhance the ship’s Italian theming,” said Duffy. The ship brings many beautiful and unique spaces into the Carnival fleet. When guests first board Carnival Venezia, they will be immediately surrounded by Italian architectural design inside the atrium, which is modeled after Venice’s main public square, the Piazza San Marco. The ship also features an elegant theater, Teatro Rosso, which will provide a beautiful backdrop for popular Carnival entertainment and new programming, along with many other stylish and immersive spaces. Carnival Venezia’s outdoor spaces feature Italian touches as well and some first-in-fleet features, with a Lido deck modeled after the Italian Riviera that boasts a retractable roof, so the pool can still be enjoyed when the ship departs and returns to New York in colder months. Carnival has also been planning many new spaces and will be making updates across the ship, such as adding mini-bars and standard American power outlets to the staterooms, so guests feel at home on board. On the top deck, Carnival Venezia will have a serenity area, an adults-only retreat, featuring lounging furniture, sun beds and two whirlpools. The Serenity area will also include a new bar featuring spritzes. Carnival is also introducing a new concept, Terrazza staterooms, which are similar to the Havana staterooms on other Carnival ships. Located on decks 5-9 aft, Terrazza staterooms include interior, balconies (many with aft-facing views) and the special Terrazza Cabanas, which feature private patios complete with plush loungers, a hammock and direct lanai access to Terrazza Carnevale. The special Terrazza staterooms offer exclusive access to Terrazza Carnevale, an outdoor terraced deck featuring two whirlpools, a bar and tranquil lounging space to take in breathtaking views. Guests staying in the 77 Terrazza staterooms have exclusive perks including: Exclusive access to Carnevale Lounge in the morning with complimentary continental breakfast; Terrazza-branded robes and towels Specially-curated brunch on select sea days with a complimentary Spritz or Mimosa An exclusive sail-away event in Terrazza Carnevale with live music Eat, Drink and Enjoy the Flavors of Italy Guests will find signature Carnival restaurants and bars on board Carnival Venezia, including the steakhouse Fahrenheit 555, Bonsai Sushi & Teppanyaki and the Chef’s Table, along with Lido Marketplace, Seafood Shack and Pizzeria del Capitano, Piano Bar 88 and Heroes Tribute Lounge. In addition, many Carnival mainstays will offer special Italian menu items on board – for example, gelato will join the popular coffee and snack options at Java Blue Café. Guests will also find delightful beverage and food offerings throughout the ship at several new or updated restaurant and bar concepts, including: Dining Venues Guy’s Burger Joint – Italian flavors and ingredients add new flavors to Guy Fieri’s famous burgers. Along with classic American burgers and fries, new menu items will feature an Italian twist, such as a pepperoni pizza burger and the Big Mozz – a burger smothered in melted mozzarella cheese. La Strada Grill – Taste the best grilled Italian street food and sandwiches. Tomodoro – Mexitalian fusion creations feature ingredients such as Italian meatballs and Sicilian chicken alongside traditional Mexican tacos and burritos, for breakfast and lunch. Canal Grande and Marco Polo Restaurants – Both restaurants feature delicious three-course meals in spaces surrounded by elegant Italian sculptures and architectural designs, including a real-life Venetian gondola in one of them. Special Italian dishes will be featured, including favorites from Carnival’s signature Cucina del Capitano Italian restaurant. New Specialty Italian Restaurant – In addition to the Italian dishes offered in the main dining rooms, an all-new dining concept is being created and more details will be shared soon. Bars and Lounges Amari – Similar to what Carnival guests know and love at Alchemy bars across the fleet, expertly crafted cocktails feature a variety of Italian liqueurs and bitters and are skillfully prepared by professional mixologists for an elevated and interactive experience. This is an elevated and interactive cocktail experience with drinks such as negroni, americano, Amalfi martini and sbagliato. Select Alchemy cocktails will also be served. Frizzante – A variety of bubbly drinks, from prosecco to spritzes and bellinis are served along with Italian beer. Authentic Italian coffees and biscotti will be served here throughout the day. Carnevale Bar & Lounge – Tasty cocktails are served in a lounge inspired by the elegance of Venetian masquerades during Carnevale and features beautiful scenes of Carnivale di Venezia on LED screens, complete with live music, fine Italian wines and classic cocktails in a relaxing atmosphere with a cool vibe. Gondola Lounge – Inspired by the famous Venetian canals, this space features a large stage with a dance floor as well as comfortable seating to enjoy live entertainment. This lounge opens to the outside on either side for a breezy stroll around the lanai. Rococó – Refreshing frozen drinks, from colorful layered creations with unique Italian flavors such as limoncello and bellini to classic frozen cocktails, including margaritas, daiquiris and piña coladas, are served out of a fun and cheeky bar described as “Baroque Goes Pop.” Experience Italian-Inspired Entertainment and Activities Along with ‘Fun Ship’ Favorites Guests can also expect the high-energy entertainment they know and love fleetwide on board Carnival Venezia. The ship will be the first in the fleet to feature the exciting new show “Color My World,” following its debut on Carnival Celebration last month. It’s an Indie rock and pop love story that combines different mediums of art to create a visually stunning experience. Some of the other entertainment and activity offerings include: Parties and Gatherings Captain’s Venetian Toast – Carnival Venezia’s captain greets guests in true Venetian style, while live music fills the atrium and the cast members don Venetian costumes. Guests are encouraged to wear Venetian masks as well. Italian Street Party – Little Italy meets Lido for a street party featuring rotating entertainment at the mainstage including live music and Italian-themed performances while competitions such as spaghetti and gelato eating contests keep everyone entertained. Playlist Productions Broadway Beats – Show connecting the audience to the ship’s homeport with a larger-than-life journey through New York City. Vintage Pop – Modern musical with a ‘20s spin tying in with New York’s prohibition era. Epic Rock – Concert featuring rock staples from artists like Journey, Aerosmith and Bon Jovi. Youth and Family Activities Camp Ocean and Club O2 – Children, teens and families can experience different regions of Italy through arts & crafts, games, and themed activities, including gondola racing, Futbol challenges, Italian hopscotch and more. Sports, Games and Attractions – In addition to popular options in SportsSquare, such as basketball and pickleball, families can also choose activities with an Italian twist, including bocce ball and foosball. Guests will also find other familiar top-deck favorites including a ropes course, mini golf, jogging track, outdoor fitness equipment and a water park featuring three waterslides – one open and two enclosed – with a splash park for younger kids. Carnival Venezia will operate a wide range of sailing options from New York’s Manhattan Terminal, with 10 different cruise durations and 22 unique itineraries featuring visits to 25 ports across 14 countries beginning June 15, 2023. To see current sailings now open for Carnival Venezia, visit Carnival.com. In 2024, Carnival Cruise Line will welcome a second ‘Carnival Fun Italian Style’ ship, when Carnival Firenze™ joins the fleet, scheduled to sail year-round from Long Beach, Calif. Both ships were originally built for Carnival Corp. sister-brand Costa Cruises and debuted in 2019 and 2020 respectively. As well as: https://cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/2022/12/carnival-reveals-details-ahead-of-venezia-debut/

Other than the continental breakfast part, that wasn’t really new information, I was only speaking on really the new bars and eateries.

I would think so, maybe one or two changes dedicated to that ship specifically but probably won’t know till next year.

In case you missed the live, new features that will be debuting on the Carnival Venezia are as follows: Lido Deck: Lido Bar: Rococo Baroque Goes Pop Java Blue Cafe: now featured on the Lido and will be serving gelato Tomodoro: Replaces Blue Iguana Cantina, and is a fusion of Italian and Mexican and is open for breakfast and lunch Guy's Burger Joint: Returns with new recipes and decor Italian style Lido deck parties la starda Grill, Italian style street food, located near/around lido marketplace Serenity will feature a spritz bar Down Below: New Italian specialty restaurant, full concept not revealed just yet, however will feature a show kitchen and will be on deck 5 with outdoor seating (brunch & dinner) Amari bar replaces Alchemy, but popular Alchemy drinks will be featured here Frizzante: new bar that will service bubbly drinks and coffee, and will be stationed near the new Italian specialty restaurant Ocean Plaza becomes Gondola Lounge Carnevale Lounge: same spot as Havana Bar and much more to come, what do we think?

Costa ships aside, Carnival Glory is moving to Port Canaveral in 2024, replacing Carnival Liberty it looks like.

Costa Magica’s page at least through the US site didn’t contain and information it was being sold to Seajets and that page hadn’t been updated since June.

Venezia is not getting the Skyride, it shows a blue “X”, not “Coming Soon”.

Where was that mentioned? Haven’t seen that anywhere.

Booked the first sailing after the T/A, 4-day to Bermuda, wanted to book its first sailing to Bermuda, which happens to be the first cruise round trip from NY. Have family also going on it in July for a 8 day, but those longer winter cruises are very enticing, especially to the Southern Caribbean. Cannot wait to try this ship.

Going off the current deck plans as a Costa ship, the bottom right will be the burger bar, not sure if it’ll be Guy’s, Luminosa didn’t get a Guys. Bottom left could be Blue Iguana or something different. Top left would probably be the Rum Bar. Top right is currently a Gelato Bar so that could be turned into a rum/tequila bar or a Carnival version of a Gelato/Ice Cream bar.

With longer winter cruises then your generic 8 day to The Bahamas, should hopefully help with that. But Venezia competes with Meraviglia which is also doing year round service in the area for the first time, and MSC has barely been in the area so that will be interesting to see how it plays out. Hopefully they don't swap out with Horizon, Florida gets most of the new and unique ships with few exceptions as it is. Will Long Beach be able to fill Panorama, Miracle, Radiance and now Firenze?

Carnival Venezia will be doing year-round service so it will be sailing from NY during winter 2023-2024. Has some nice longer 8-12 day itineraries to the Eastern and Southern Caribbean and not just the generic boring 8-Day to Bahamas.

Most of the "fun to be revealed" slots seems to be eateries, most of the usual Carnival ones have slots, they must be putting in new ones specific for Venezia, or just change the wording, like I would hope they keep the gelato. However, I don't think it is getting Guy's Burger's, rather something different. I also don't see Carnival Deli either unless that will be within the Lido Marketplace later on.

Ship has the kids clubs, waterslides, rope course, etc.

The class was for sale years before COVID, no one wanted them; they also required expensive maintenance upgrades. At least there's two left for now...

I've been cruising for about 13 years now, started young with Carnival, then moved to Princess for a few years before coming back to Carnival just prior to Covid. Post restart, been on 4 Carnival cruises from Sept 2021, to just this past July and in between those sailed on my first Royal Caribbean cruise. Being honest, sailing on Horizon at reduced capacity really was a spoil because you could really enjoy the ship, and it was much better than the first time around when ships were at full capacity. But some of the recent sailings were great, and others just middle of the road (food was the most up and down, but staffing/service were excellent all around). I don't think too many of the cut backs really effected my opinion of Carnival, but I wouldn't mind paying a little extra if it would help. Royal Caribbean for the first time was also a lot of fun even with a complete port change (out of their control) did miss some of those Carnival touches. Staff were still excellent, ship had an interesting layout in some places too. I would also recommend MSC, the shoreside management isn't the best, but onboard service was the complete opposite. However this was just before everything came to a stop, but would sail on them again. Can't wait to see how Venezia plays out, with this "new" concept coming in a few months.

From John’s interview with Christine: Bookings open on November 14, and does include a T/A, Barcelona to NYC and is staying year round for the time being.

Down the road get the Sunrise/Radiance style upgrade (since those two are the same as Fortuna/Magica), not so much Sunshine. Guess we will see soon enough.

With NYC getting Venezia, Magic will have a longer season from Norfolk next (but nothing is confirmed, other than Bermudas schedule) which could replace Charleston down the road. As tidecat mentioned, Firenze will probably displace a ship, I would also expect Carnival to absorb a few more Costa ships. Hopefully if Carnival retires Elation/Paradise, they keep one around a bit longer and of course whatever happens to Sunshine but I think she’ll remain a bit longer or maybe get replaced by a younger sister from Costa.

Certainly possible, Costa Magica is also without work and with reports of Costa leaving Asia, Costa Serena doesn't have work either.

They definitely need some better itineraries, especially come the winter time than those 8 Days to PC/Nassau and Freeport. Doesn’t help Bermuda is limited either. But I think she may come a little earlier, she exits Costa service on December 1, and then will head to dry dock sometime after, the other question will be do you think she comes over empty or will they sell a T/A?

Well if Venezia starts to pop up in any Bahamas/Caribbean ports prior to the first Bermuda cruise, we’ll know if she replaces Magic. Magic could just do a small NYC season and head to Norfolk earlier. However, I do agree with the comments that the two should have been kept separate but I don’t think a Dream & Vista Class in NYC would do well either.

Sailed on her in July, middle of the road ship for us, didn’t overly love it but didn’t overly hate it either. Other comments summed it up pretty good, new non-smoking casino. Food was so so. Family has another cruise booked for next year but we are all waiting patiently for the Venezia cruises to be released. However, Ryan Rose should be the cruise director again when the ship comes back to NY and he was fantastic, so you should enjoy him unless he was the one you found boring.