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Hospitality service providers, the world over, perfect the art of working a customers emotions and telling them the story they need to hear, on an effort to increase discretionary compensation. I’m not saying there is anything wrong with that, but I take everything a crew member tells me about their personal life with a grain of salt; and I never let it influence my gratuitous offerings.
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Now you are just being silly. International convention says everyone gets paid the same scale. The Indonesians do it because it’s a massive financial windfall. Americans don’t because they can do better at home. hypothetical, a corporation comes to you and says “we will pay you 2.5X of your last years salary, for 9 months work, and cover all your living expenses”; a fair percent of the world jumps at that offer, and then signs contract after contract after contract.
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As has been stated in this particular thread on a number of occasions the last day or so, one can read the salary standards on the website of the Maritime Labour Convention. The MINIMUM is many times more than the average salary in their home countries. BTW lots of people aroumd the world, including the USA work 60-70 hours a week just to make ends meet; this is nothing unique to cruise ship workers.
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I paid their salary with my cruise fare. gratuities are for extra service, and I can’t pay that until I receive the service. I will decide that amount, not the cruise line.
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Ok, let’s use their place of work as an indicator of living wage. $0 housing $0 food $0 transportstion $0 for anything In this instance they are paid WELL above living wage. The entire world bases living wage based on the place wages are being spent of the individual in question. Refusal to accept this as fact just means there can be no further fruitful discussion on the matter.
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Lots of misleading or incorrect o formation here. GUARANTEED MINIMUM wage for a crew member is $658 per month (going to $666 on Jan 1) The cre gets this amount regardless of tips. 288 hours is the MAXIMUM that can be worked in a month, as governed by international law (not 360) Using the Philippines as an example, since they are one of the highest ethnicities represented on cruise ships; the average salary for a job such as housekeeping is $175 USD per month. Median salary in the Philippines is USD $308. The guaranteed minimum on the ship is over DOUBLE what could be made at home (and working similar hours). I suppose that is why you run into so many crew members that spend decades working on the ships. Stop making it sound like the crew is being taken advantage of or not compensated fairly. Stop viewing the financials of the crew through a North American or Western European eye. I will tip, in cash, those that I interact with directly. Those “behind-the-scenes” people are doing just fine, and do not, in my opinion, warrant a gratuity from me.