MARIANH Posted April 6, 2010 #1 Share Posted April 6, 2010 The Silversea web site is not clear as to which bars and lounges have designated smoking tables on Silver Spirit. Does anyone have this detailed information? And in bars/lounges where smoking is allowed, is the ventilation system adequate to ensure non smoking areas in the same room are not affected? We are interested because we are smoke averse ( long story!). Our experience is that on some ships where lounges etc have designated smoking tables, the fumes often pervade the whole of the room and indeed outside in some instances. Naturally, we recognise that smoking per se is a matter of personal choice. By the same token, we choose to avoid smoky areas where practicable. Just to be clear, I am not trying to open up a smoking/ non smoking debate. I would just like the information so that we can make informed choices Any information would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PebmarshPete Posted April 6, 2010 #2 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Also interested in the position regarding smoking in suites and/or on verandas please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougburns Posted April 6, 2010 #3 Share Posted April 6, 2010 There is plenty of info regarding this subject on previous threads. Please, let's not get another one of these tirades started here. Smoking is permitted on the port side of the Panorama Lounge after 1800 and outside of Panorama on the port side any time. Smoking is also permitted outside on deck 9 port side any time from the pool bar aft to the Panorama Lounge verandah. Smoking is permitted in the Connoisseur Lounge forward of the Casino on deck 8 and in staterooms/on balconies. That's it; nowhere else. Now let's drop it, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PebmarshPete Posted April 6, 2010 #4 Share Posted April 6, 2010 There is plenty of info regarding this subject on previous threads. I had in fact searched and could not find a clear answer in previous threads - which you have now kindly provided. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregon50 Posted April 6, 2010 #5 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Posting to confirm what was written in post #3 and agree that you should read what has already been posted. Will add that the vents regarding smoking on this ship are piss poor. In other words, you can write off the Panorama Lounge. But that has already been mentioned in the sticky thread. And I do not blame you for not wanting to read the entire thread. It has become worthless for a person to find answers because the dribble between individuals has not been purged. A sticky thread should have mostly useful information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARIANH Posted April 6, 2010 Author #6 Share Posted April 6, 2010 There is plenty of info regarding this subject on previous threads. Please, let's not get another one of these tirades started here. Smoking is permitted on the port side of the Panorama Lounge after 1800 and outside of Panorama on the port side any time. Smoking is also permitted outside on deck 9 port side any time from the pool bar aft to the Panorama Lounge verandah. Smoking is permitted in the Connoisseur Lounge forward of the Casino on deck 8 and in staterooms/on balconies. That's it; nowhere else. Now let's drop it, please! Firstly thank you for the information - it is almost what I needed. Except for a steer on whether ventilation was adequate to prevent non smokers being affected . This information came with a later post - again helpful. Secondly, before posting my question I almost lost the will to live when trawling previous posts to find an answer to my simple question. No doubt my fault for not being au fait with the plethora of postings on a multitude of topics. Thirdly, I was at great pains not to be judgmental vis a vis smokers. I chose my words carefully so as not to cause offence or stimulate a tirade. Fourthly, I declare an interest as I have lost dear family members to smoking; but I am not on any sort of crusade. And finally, I do look forward to joining Silver Spirit on an upcoming Caribbean cruise armed with helpful information courtesy of responders to my post. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougburns Posted April 6, 2010 #7 Share Posted April 6, 2010 I apologize, but I have to amend my earlier post. There is also smoking in a small area of the Casino, but most folks just go into the Connoisseur Club to smoke and the Casino was not heavily utilized on the T/A cruise. We don't do the Casino, but one of our group did and she was a smoker. Also, smoking is permitted at 2 tables on the far port side of the Stone Grill on deck 10. That will not be an issue if they move the Stone Grill to the Pool deck and it isn't an issue currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Posted April 7, 2010 #8 Share Posted April 7, 2010 The Silversea web site is not clear as to which bars and lounges have designated smoking tables on Silver Spirit. Does anyone have this detailed information? And in bars/lounges where smoking is allowed, is the ventilation system adequate to ensure non smoking areas in the same room are not affected? We are interested because we are smoke averse ( long story!). Our experience is that on some ships where lounges etc have designated smoking tables, the fumes often pervade the whole of the room and indeed outside in some instances. Naturally, we recognise that smoking per se is a matter of personal choice. By the same token, we choose to avoid smoky areas where practicable. Just to be clear, I am not trying to open up a smoking/ non smoking debate. I would just like the information so that we can make informed choices Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thhis is a very legitimate question and , hopefully, you have gotten the answer. The controversery arises when people know about the smoking policy and then complain about it (sometimes before even booking a cruise!) If everyone knows the policy then there should be no controversy. But that might just be a bit pollyanna-ish? =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ging466 Posted April 7, 2010 #9 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Thhis is a very legitimate question and , hopefully, you have gotten the answer. The controversery arises when people know about the smoking policy and then complain about it (sometimes before even booking a cruise!) If everyone knows the policy then there should be no controversy. But that might just be a bit pollyanna-ish? =) Rally, u hit the nail on the head:) It's when people know full well what the SS smoking policy is but whinge and complain that it should be changed. I'm a non smoker... I know where the smoking sections are and I'll steer clear of them...unless of course I meet a new friend and want to hang out with them. I always like to keep my options open:D:D:D Cheers Jennifer (ging466) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emtbsam Posted April 7, 2010 #10 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I am a former smoker and now a non-smoker for 20+ years. All I can say is that on our recent 26 day cruise to Tahiti, the smokers were some of our favorite people on board! Hope to travel with them again - South America maybe??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGF Posted April 22, 2010 #11 Share Posted April 22, 2010 The Silversea web site is not clear as to which bars and lounges have designated smoking tables on Silver Spirit. Does anyone have this detailed information? And in bars/lounges where smoking is allowed, is the ventilation system adequate to ensure non smoking areas in the same room are not affected? We are interested because we are smoke averse ( long story!). Our experience is that on some ships where lounges etc have designated smoking tables, the fumes often pervade the whole of the room and indeed outside in some instances. Naturally, we recognise that smoking per se is a matter of personal choice. By the same token, we choose to avoid smoky areas where practicable. Just to be clear, I am not trying to open up a smoking/ non smoking debate. I would just like the information so that we can make informed choices Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for starting the thread. Good question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGF Posted April 22, 2010 #12 Share Posted April 22, 2010 I apologize, but I have to amend my earlier post. There is also smoking in a small area of the Casino, but most folks just go into the Connoisseur Club to smoke and the Casino was not heavily utilized on the T/A cruise. We don't do the Casino, but one of our group did and she was a smoker. Also, smoking is permitted at 2 tables on the far port side of the Stone Grill on deck 10. That will not be an issue if they move the Stone Grill to the Pool deck and it isn't an issue currently. Comment deleted. Already covered elsewhere in this thread DEAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ging466 Posted April 22, 2010 #13 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Comment deleted. Already covered elsewhere in this thread DEAN In a word, Yes. Suggest u search this forum...smoking is a highly contentious subject on this board. There are plenty of threads pertaining to it. Cheers Jennifer (ging466) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tella Posted April 25, 2010 #14 Share Posted April 25, 2010 We were on a cruise recently to Hawaii on a Holland America ship. People on either side of our balcony were smokers. I am highly sensitive to smoke. We spent most ofour time in our room to avoid it. Then I sensibly asked the neighbors if they would not smoke while we were all on our balconies. They were very nice and agreed to refrain. But it was a difficult situation since I don't enjoy asking (requesting) people to do anything whatsoever. But it was a matter of our not enjoying our balcony at all. Sure wish cruise ships would have just special places for smokers. Also, smoking can be very dangerous, especially if a person falls asleep in their bed while smoking. Why should we all have to be in this kind of danger for the sake of allowing other to smoke wherever or whenever? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Silver Spectre Posted April 25, 2010 #15 Share Posted April 25, 2010 We were on a cruise recently to Hawaii on a Holland America ship. People on either side of our balcony were smokers. I am highly sensitive to smoke. We spent most ofour time in our room to avoid it. Then I sensibly asked the neighbors if they would not smoke while we were all on our balconies. They were very nice and agreed to refrain. But it was a difficult situation since I don't enjoy asking (requesting) people to do anything whatsoever. But it was a matter of our not enjoying our balcony at all. Sure wish cruise ships would have just special places for smokers. Also, smoking can be very dangerous, especially if a person falls asleep in their bed while smoking. Why should we all have to be in this kind of danger for the sake of allowing other to smoke wherever or whenever? :D Tella, this has been done to death on these boards. Until such time as smoking is made illegal, you will have to put up with the fact that a proportion of people wish to and have the right to smoke. Cruise lines will not exclude a meaningful percentage of their customers just because a very, very small number of their other customers are killjoys. Remember what happened to Renaissance Cruise Lines, no smoking and no kids, and therefore no cruise line. And no I am not a smoker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Posted April 25, 2010 #16 Share Posted April 25, 2010 We were on a cruise recently to Hawaii on a Holland America ship. People on either side of our balcony were smokers. I am highly sensitive to smoke. We spent most ofour time in our room to avoid it. Then I sensibly asked the neighbors if they would not smoke while we were all on our balconies. They were very nice and agreed to refrain. But it was a difficult situation since I don't enjoy asking (requesting) people to do anything whatsoever. But it was a matter of our not enjoying our balcony at all. Sure wish cruise ships would have just special places for smokers. Also, smoking can be very dangerous, especially if a person falls asleep in their bed while smoking. Why should we all have to be in this kind of danger for the sake of allowing other to smoke wherever or whenever? :D There are plenty of cruise lines with very restrictive smoking policies (or no smoking altogether) Regent, for example, does not allow smoking on verandahs nor in cabins. Simple solution: sail on ships that suit you =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldens4 Posted April 26, 2010 #17 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Amen Silver Spectre and Rally. Just comes down to "look before you leap" and read about the policies re: smoking or anything else.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGF Posted April 26, 2010 #18 Share Posted April 26, 2010 If previous comments on other threads are correct, the problem with smoking onboard the Spirit was that the air handling system was so deficient on the maiden cruise that in areas such as the Panorama Lounge the smoke permeated throughout the lounge Hopefully for our upcoming cruise they will have rebalanced the system to overcome the problem We were also surprised on our first recent cruise onboard Holland America they permit smoking in the cabins and on the verandahs which is contrary to the policies onboard the other many cruise lines we have travelled. A safety problem in our opinion Regardless of our aversion to cigarette smoke we will be proceeding with our plans, realizing that we may have to foregoe the pleasure of certain parts of the ship where the ventillation system does not separate the non smoking areas from the smoking areas; and hopefully our cabin neighbours will be non smokers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwelsh Posted April 26, 2010 #19 Share Posted April 26, 2010 If previous comments on other threads are correct, the problem with smoking onboard the Spirit was that the air handling system was so deficient on the maiden cruise that in areas such as the Panorama Lounge the smoke permeated throughout the lounge Hopefully for our upcoming cruise they will have rebalanced the system to overcome the problem We were also surprised on our first recent cruise onboard Holland America they permit smoking in the cabins and on the verandahs which is contrary to the policies onboard the other many cruise lines we have travelled. A safety problem in our opinion Regardless of our aversion to cigarette smoke we will be proceeding with our plans, realizing that we may have to foregoe the pleasure of certain parts of the ship where the ventillation system does not separate the non smoking areas from the smoking areas; and hopefully our cabin neighbours will be non smokers Dream on DGF!! If you are as affected and offended by 2nd hand smoke as we are you are taking a big gamble!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted April 26, 2010 #20 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Remember what happened to Renaissance Cruise Lines, no smoking and no kids, and therefore no cruise line. Is that why they went under? I was wondering:cool: Will Oceania also go under without smokers and kids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwelsh Posted April 27, 2010 #21 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I don't believe smoking/kids policies killed Renaissance, I believe it was their trying to cut TA commissions out. Maybe a TA could confirma or refute this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGF Posted April 27, 2010 #22 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Dream on DGF!! If you are as affected and offended by 2nd hand smoke as we are you are taking a big gamble!! Unlike one of our friends who has close to an allergic reaction to second hand smoke, we only find it a nuisance; and if our next door neighbour is a prolific smoker(s), and becomes a problem, will ask them to not smoke on the balcony; but our experience has always been that with the sea breeze has never been a problem. Casinos is another matter and I have had to leave the blackjack tables Smoking is still a personal decision and we respect a person’s right to smoke; although frankly can't understand why anyone smokes; having lost a relative to lung cancer DEAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGF Posted April 27, 2010 #23 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I don't believe smoking/kids policies killed Renaissance, I believe it was their trying to cut TA commissions out. Maybe a TA could confirma or refute this. Agree but I am not a TA DEAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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