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This is very simular to a recent thread but in reverse, I guess. I just returned from the cruise from ?!&!? with soooo many loud kids at every inch of the ship, that I just wouldn't cruise tomarrow if it was for free!!! And yes I have cruised with my kids AND grandkids on way more cruises that you know. I KNOW that CCL is THE fun ship, BUT at 2:00am, why are there gangs of teens terrorizing the sleeping hallways? Yes I know this has been asked and answered a thousand times and flames can not touch me hard enough to back off this! It is up to the one who brought them to KNOW what they are doing or to have taught them not to bang on walls, doors etc. while people might be sleeping. Its just rude! Also to clean up their messes. Do they do this at home? If you're reading this and fine it offensive then you are probably the ones who do not watch out for your kids. They are all very precious and YOU give kids a bad rep. by not teaching them manners!

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OP, you'll get no flames from me! We don't have children and don't particularly like children. I have no problems with well-behaved kids on the ship, but the little terrors that you mentioned should be taught manners and appropriate behavior or be left at home. :rolleyes:

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OP, I'm just curious, but did you contact ship's security about the teen gangs? Unfortunately, when the parents are missing in action, roaming the halls at 2 AM is one of the only outlets their little darlings have for all that excess energy. Unfortunately, the only way to communicate your displeasure to Carnival is to make them a part of it. They must feel your pain. Also, the only way to teach unruly, MIA parents is to have their children detained by security. No mistake about it, the parents are behaving as badly as their children under such circumstances.

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I've called security on unruly kids before and will do it again. I have also called for their noise in adjoing cabins where the rules were bent by the cruise lines and they allowed just kids in the room with no parents. This is not unique to cruising, you see it all over these days. Too bad a test was not needed first.:(

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I think the mentality of parents is "it's not like they're going anywhere." That was the very words my nephew told me when they talked about their 15 year old son on the cruise ship during their vacation. (They also have younger sons). They said they left him to do as he pleased, he found some friends to hang with and they gave him a curfew of 2:00 am. They went to bed and didn't 'worry' about him because 'there's only so many places you can go on a ship." Those were the exact words.

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I think the mentality of parents is "it's not like they're going anywhere." That was the very words my nephew told me when they talked about their 15 year old son on the cruise ship during their vacation. (They also have younger sons). They said they left him to do as he pleased, he found some friends to hang with and they gave him a curfew of 2:00 am. They went to bed and didn't 'worry' about him because 'there's only so many places you can go on a ship." Those were the exact words.

 

There are well documented reports of people disappearing from cruise ships..... So obviously, there are lots of places DN's son could go....... I don't understand that concept. Your child is surrounded by hundreds/thousands of strangers. I'm pretty sure the cruise lines don't do background checks on their customers. You have no idea who you are cruising with. I'm sure that the majority of the time cruisers are perfectly safe onboard. However, common sense goes a long, long way.

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No flames here....WE AGREE! A few years back we had teen girls across the hall their parents were at the end of the hall 20 or so cabins between them. The girls weren't really bad it was the teen boys after them knocking on their door at all hours or even WORSE the drunk Dad coming at 2am to bang on their door and see if they were in their cabin! :eek: Guess he couldn't call from his cabin.....:cool::confused::mad: Learned to watch the prices from then on if a week seemed to be $$$ it must be a vacation week from school in Texas and we don't book then. But I do agree we should be able to book when we want and not have to deal with rude, noisy, and "do what ever" kids and their parents who think "not my child he/she is an angel".

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On our recent Dream cruise, even though it was in the summer, we actually had pretty decent behavior from all the kids.

 

I was on the elevator one time and a group was trying to get on and about 1/2 did and then the other 1/2 decided to ditch the first 1/2 so they kept opening the doors on the elevator, etc. So I just spoke up, said STOP and if you don't I will get ships security - please be respectful. Guess what - they did. Funny how they reacted to me because I seemed to run into that group of kids a lot during the week.

 

I would just say, be firm, but nice and tell them to stop their rude behavior - they probably will.

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I too am childless, but have many neices, nephews, and greats. The one thing I know, children can be angels around their parents, and terrors away from them. Even when raised with strict values and discipline. So no parent SHOULD say "Not my child"

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Pick up any phone, call customer service and report them. There are phones all over the ship. The more people do this the less and less this will be a problem. No need to handle it yourself. Carnival, and all other lines, have professionals who get paid to do just that.

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I too am childless, but have many neices, nephews, and greats. The one thing I know, children can be angels around their parents, and terrors away from them. Even when raised with strict values and discipline. So no parent SHOULD say "Not my child"

 

I will keep saying "not my child" until someone comes to me with proof otherwise. As of now I've only had good reports on their behavior from teachers, coaches, other parents, and complete strangers. They have never given me any reason to doubt them. Please do not judge all children alike...just like all adults should not be judged alike. Just like with adults there are some kids that are rude and selfish and some who were raised to have manners and to think of others before themselves.

 

FYI...I know kids from a couple of kids from different families who behave in my house when their parents are not there, but turn into terrors the moment their parents return. They know there are boundries and rules in my house from the behavior of my children and from the limits I set. They also know that their parents do not have those boundries and I don't interfere with their parents parenting when they are there so the minute their parents are around they are pushing their limits and vying for their parents attention.

 

Until you know my kids, do not presume to judge them with your sweeping statements of guilt.

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I was shocked returning to my cabin from the casino on the Inspiration in May about 2am and there were young girls, about 9-10 years old, wandering the hallway. DH and I don't have kids and we try to cruise when we think there won't be many. I think the rudest behavior is in the Lido buffet -- do parents not teach manners or to respect people older than they are? I don't even try to use the ship pools anymore having been jumped upon in previous cruises. Most of the kids are tolerable, but I wish there were adults only cruises on Carnival.

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Carnival, and all other lines, have professionals who get paid to do just that.
This is so inaccurate, it's laughable. :mad: They may get paid to do it, but actually performing that job function is another matter entirely.
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Is there a ship curfew for passengers under 18? I mean if security is called at 2 AM are the teens actually "sent to their rooms"?
They should be sent to the brig.
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I've called security on unruly kids before and will do it again. I have also called for their noise in adjoing cabins where the rules were bent by the cruise lines and they allowed just kids in the room with no parents. This is not unique to cruising, you see it all over these days. Too bad a test was not needed first.:(

 

Did security do anything?

 

I've called about noise in hotels....and it stopped after my complaint.

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My kids are very well-behaved, but I don't give them totally free rein around the ship even though they are 12 and 15 years old. I've seen too many times the crowds of kids roaming the ships, in the stairwells, and elevators. I'm sure most of those kids are good kids; however, once the mob mentality takes over, that's when the trouble starts. And like another poster said, LOTS of bad things can happen on a ship, its not the best place to loose sight of your kids for hours on end!

 

I'm lucky because my kids choose to spend a lot of their cruise time with us and our extended family. Since we're so busy the rest of the year, we welcome spending the cruise time together.

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Parents that think there children are ok and it is ok not to keep a close watch on them are wrong.We had a parent in the dallas area come home and about 3 hrs later went looking for his 2 year old .She was still in her car seat in the car.It was 103 that day ,she didn't make it.Bad thinks can happen on a ship or anywhere

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I just finished a cruise, and there was only one "problem child" that I saw. A boy about 8 years old was in the "adult only" hot tub throwing water up to the top of the little roof. I went over to him and asked, "where are your parents?" He just said, "I don't know." A Carnival employee came over and made him get out after about 3 minutes. I have no problem with well behaved kids whose parents watch them. I have 2 dds, 10 and 6, and they would never be allowed to wander away from me, and they know not to act like that, or there will be consequences. Some parents just take a vacation from parenting, I guess.

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