Nor'Eastah Posted October 4, 2010 #1 Share Posted October 4, 2010 I just read about a couple being placed under house arrest on QM2 in Quebec recently on the Cunard boards. The article linked in the post has a photo of the couple The pictures on the wall look like the Taj Mahal reproductions on the Noordam. Any Noordam experts out there that can confirm or deny? Obviously not an important or even relevant question I just thought I recognized the pictures and knew if there was anyone that could confirm it would be someone on this board :) Here's a link to the article in case you're interested: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1317414/Briton-wife-ordered-QM2-cruise-ship-anti-Semitic-row.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted October 4, 2010 #2 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Thanks for the link -- interesting artical. I don't recognize the pictures in the back-ground. But then again I did not study all the pictures on the Noordam that closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bepsf Posted October 4, 2010 #3 Share Posted October 4, 2010 That background doesn't look appear to be Noordam at all - Too Neutral/Beige. I'd bet it's QE2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serendipity1499 Posted October 4, 2010 #4 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Wow! That's quite a story...:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodofpine Posted October 4, 2010 #5 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Sounds like the incident and the couple were quite a 'piece of work'. If cruise industry hotel directors got together to publish a book 'Passengers We've Known' I'm sure the rest of us simply wouldn't believe the 'lion's share' of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapper1 Posted October 4, 2010 #6 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Showing that much flesh at the age of 82 should be enough in itself to warrant house arrest.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serendipity1499 Posted October 4, 2010 #7 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Showing that much flesh at the age of 82 should be enough in itself to warrant house arrest.:eek: LOL And she has to be wearing a wig, but did you see the Jewels ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knitlady037 Posted October 4, 2010 #8 Share Posted October 4, 2010 http://newyork.cbslocal.com/ This is the link for the local news. You can see an interview with them. Go to the video news section in lower right corner and scroll across until you come to their interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted October 4, 2010 #9 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Thanks knitlady for the link to the video. I noticed that she did all the talking - her DH was quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted October 4, 2010 #10 Share Posted October 4, 2010 "The couple claim they should be given far more regal treatment because of their connections." That tells me all I need to know, my favorite, the "Do you know who I am" card. Kirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor'Eastah Posted October 4, 2010 Author #11 Share Posted October 4, 2010 knitlady, thanks for the link, she sure seems like quite the character. Sapper1...thanks for the LOLs! I can only imagine the other side of the story. I've seen some feisty characters on cruises and nothing was officialy said. There must have been some serious uproar for the Commodore to get involved and I hardly believe either party is innocent. We'll probably never know the whole truth but it's entertaining to speculate. Now back to my sleuthing...I know I'll find proof somewhere that pic was taken on the Noordam.....;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krewzin Posted October 4, 2010 #12 Share Posted October 4, 2010 "The row erupted during dinner when another passenger at the formal dinner was said to have remarked: ‘There are too many Jews on board’." Sounds like the other passenger deserved the 'f-you' comment offered up by Miss Sher. Kicking somebody off the ship because they insulted anothe passenger (a regulation? lol) is a new one on me. Granted....perhaps she took it a step further if she did, in fact, shove somebody.... but it also sounds like the other passenger was an anti semetic a**hole who should've gotten the same treatment. :shrug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising-along Posted October 4, 2010 #13 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Showing that much flesh at the age of 82 should be enough in itself to warrant house arrest.:eek: LOL! I agree! And yes, quite a few facelifts I'd guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knitlady037 Posted October 5, 2010 #14 Share Posted October 5, 2010 These two characters are really getting their 15 minutes of fame over this. There's another story on the news again tonight.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggal Posted October 5, 2010 #15 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Seems to me that its blatant anti-Semitism on the part of the other passenger as well as the Captain and Cunard itself. Something to think about when I'm booking my next cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jade13 Posted October 5, 2010 #16 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Seems to me that its blatant anti-Semitism on the part of the other passenger as well as the Captain and Cunard itself. Something to think about when I'm booking my next cruise. That's what it sounded like to me too. I did not see that they attached anyone, etc. So, the other couple was allowed to stay on-board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room010 Posted October 5, 2010 #17 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I'd be interested to know the full background to this story because I suspect this incident was the culmination of several others and the Captain finally decided enough was enough. This lady is obviously extremely "high maintenance" in every possible way :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcrandle Posted October 5, 2010 #18 Share Posted October 5, 2010 The lesson to be learned in what we are able to discern from the media reports (which are worth less than hearsay) is if you are a passenger on a ship, or airplane, or whatever, and you feel that you have been maligned, abused, or otherwise mistreated, DO NOT try to handle the situation yourself. If you do so, you are likely to be disciplined. The classic example in pro sports is the player who is the victim of a cheap shot. When he (or she) reacts, the official only sees the reaction, and the victim is penalized. Unless you have good evidence that your reaction was because you reasonably felt that you were defending yourself from injury, the captain (who's word is law) can rule that you were the aggressor, and should be punished. If you are in a situation like this, you need to report it to ship's security, and follow up to make sure that they handle it as it should be. You may need to ask about their escalation procedures if it appears that they are ignoring it. No person should have to be the target of bigotry! Free speech does not encompass the right to defame others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor'Eastah Posted October 5, 2010 Author #19 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Found it! Amateur sleuth is back, I knew I had seen those pictures before...found a photo my mother in law took of her cabin (6171) that was next door to ours on the Noordam in 2008. TA DA! Now before the attention detailed tell me these are not exactly the same as the first photo, I know they aren't identical but I do believe they had different but similar versions of these pictures on the Noordam. There are other slightly different versions shown in the Noordam balcony cabin photos on the link at the top of the HAL board. I know the drama of the Cunard dispute is more exciting for some but I'm just tickled that I found my proof! Of course doesn't prove a thing really except that my memory is not as bad as I thought it was...and these days anything that makes me feel less like I'm losing it is a real treat! Thanks for indulging my little CSI episode. But wait, could there be more to add to the drama... does anyone recall sailing with these two? Are there some trusty HAL regulars that have an insider scoop? :cool: LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-500 Posted October 5, 2010 #20 Share Posted October 5, 2010 It makes sense that the picture was taken much earlier, they look much younger than their current reported ages. She doesn't look a day over 79 and he looks to be only in his late 80's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissMyst Posted October 5, 2010 #21 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Found it! Amateur sleuth is back' date=' I knew I had seen those pictures before...found a photo my mother in law took of her cabin (6171) that was next door to ours on the Noordam in 2008. TA DA! Now before the attention detailed tell me these are not exactly the same as the first photo, I know they aren't identical but I do believe they had different but similar versions of these pictures on the Noordam. There are other slightly different versions shown in the Noordam balcony cabin photos on the link at the top of the HAL board. I know the drama of the Cunard dispute is more exciting for some but I'm just tickled that I found my proof! Of course doesn't prove a thing really except that my memory is not as bad as I thought it was...and these days anything that makes me feel less like I'm losing it is a real treat! Thanks for indulging my little CSI episode. But wait, could there be more to add to the drama... does anyone recall sailing with these two? Are there some trusty HAL regulars that have an insider scoop? :cool: LOL What great sleuthing work you did. Brava! :cool::cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koshlong Posted October 5, 2010 #22 Share Posted October 5, 2010 All other things aside, and slightly tongue-in-cheek, I'm surprised that someone claiming to be an illegitimate son of Edward VIII:eek: was only asked to LEAVE a British ship, by a British captain. There was a time, or so my mum said, when he'd have been made to SWIM home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLLEYBERRY Posted October 5, 2010 #23 Share Posted October 5, 2010 All other things aside, and slightly tongue-in-cheek, I'm surprised that someone claiming to be an illegitimate son of Edward VIII:eek: was only asked to LEAVE a British ship, by a British captain. There was a time, or so my mum said, when he'd have been made to SWIM home! :D:D:D I may be wrong but I was under the impression he was not capable of fathering anyone.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted October 5, 2010 #24 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Nice language for a lady :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudscraper Posted October 5, 2010 #25 Share Posted October 5, 2010 The lady in question may well be a PITA who deserved to be tossed off the ship. We don`t know the full story at this time. I`m sure the details will eventually come out. We here on the HAL boards are primarily senior citizens. We`ve read many a wisecrack about the HAL passengers re our age, appearance and infirmities from other posters. Let`s not do this with this lady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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