Just off Glory and Noro Virus

[OCruisers]

I guess i should have put LOL after the free cruise. I was just trying to put some humor into this post.

 

:D You're right ... no free cruise!

 

Seems lots (including crew, staff, and officers) on ours did and did NOT report having Noro. Very unlikely that if either of us have it again that we will.

[CruisinManiac]

That was someone else i got sick Friday night and we got off in the morning. What was i to do call doctor in the middle of the night? I did not see need to go to the ship doctor as i had medication i took and and got off as one of the first off the ship. Husband got sick when got home. I guess i need to email the CDC and tell them to add two the list?

 

I am sorry! ;)

[Quampapetet]

Just put Safe4Hours on my shopping list. I'll use that in-between washing with hot water and what is offered on the ship. ;)

 

Just so ya know, the temperature you wash with doesn't matter. They studied it and found that it doesn't affect the germs. So, wash with whatever temperature feels best to you.

[serene56]

http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/gilist.htm#2010

 

Glory sailing 10/09 - 10/16 made it to the Vessel Sanitation Program list

 

Only 113 passengers were sick BUT look how many crew members

 

 

1,169 (1.71%)

[Scrappygrrl]

http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/gilist.htm#2010

 

Glory sailing10/09 - 10/16 made it to the Vessel Sanitation Program list

 

Only 113 passengers were sick BUT look how many crew members

 

 

1,169 (1.71%)

 

Something seems off with the crew Numbers or percentage - I have a feeling the percentage is correct? I doubt there are over 100,000 crew members on board, LOL! And if the numbers were correct, I doubt there would be enough staff around to sail!

 

FYI, for those that were in close proximity to someone with and did not get sick, I did read an article that said some folks have a genetic mutation so that they are not susceptible to norovirus as well as rotovirus (another nasty GI bug). Consider yourself lucky!

[papilliontraveler]

Looks to me like Carnival has a pretty good track record, especially compared to the other cruiselines, some of which are on the upper end.

[texasnana]

i see now the Glory made events at sea website now. i have to admitt this is the first major outbreak of Norovirus for the CDC since April.

It makes sense why the cruise was so disappointing lack of staff due to sickness and also having to do double duty.

After reading the board and other reports of the Glory this was not a typical cruise.

[blindrid]

[quote name='Quampapetet']
(I guess bleach is the cheapest stuff that will kill the virus so that is why they use it instead of another disinfectant? I have a spray bottle of disinfectant that kills even MRSA, but it likely costs more than bleach would in the quantities that the ships must have on hand.)[/quote]

Bleach is the best cleaner per the CDC: "[FONT=arial][SIZE=3]The best cleaning product to kill norovirus and other gastroenteritis viruses is household bleach. The CDC recommends using a minimum 2% solution of household bleach in water to kill norovirus[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=arial][SIZE=1]1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=arial][SIZE=3]."[/SIZE][/FONT]

[nrdsb4]

[quote name='danech'][COLOR=Red][B]Hand sanitizers will help with bacteria but will not kill viruses. [/B][/COLOR]Some food establishments do not provide hand sanitizers for food handlers because they can give a false sense of security and result in LESS handwashing. As stated, good personal hygine, including hand washing, is how you prevent the spread of Norovirus.[/quote]


That is not true.

Hand sanitizers, depending on their alcohol content, can kill many bacteria and some viruses.

From the CDC:

Alcohol rubs kill many different kinds of bacteria, including [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibiotic_resistant"]antibiotic resistant[/URL] bacteria and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TB"]TB[/URL] bacteria. It also has high [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viricide"]viricidal[/URL] activity against many different kinds of viruses, including [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enveloped_virus"]enveloped viruses[/URL] such as the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flu_virus"]flu virus[/URL], the common [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_virus"]cold virus[/URL], and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV"]HIV[/URL], though is notably ineffective against the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies_virus"]rabies virus[/URL].[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_sanitizer#cite_note-18"][18][/URL] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_sanitizer#cite_note-19"][19][/URL] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_sanitizer#cite_note-20"][20][/URL]

Alcohol rub sanitizers are not very effective against [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norovirus"]Norovirus[/URL] (winter vomiting virus) unless they are combined with benzalkonium chloride in a hand sanitizer.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_sanitizer#cite_note-pmid16765204-21"][21][/URL]

[tutsballymac]

was it confirmed it was Norovirus? I am due back to work in morning and work with elderly. Was very sick 48 hours on board,(not sea sick!like many), then after coming off ship got sick again for another 48 hours, worst the second time!! a week later I do not feel 100%, I did visit doctor when sick the 2nd time, had lost weight but not dehydrated as I feared.

[CruisinManiac]

[quote name='Quampapetet']Just so ya know, the temperature you wash with doesn't matter. They studied it and found that it doesn't affect the germs. So, wash with whatever temperature feels best to you.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='serene56'][url]http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/gilist.htm#2010[/url]

Glory sailing[U] [/U][URL="http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/outbreak/2010/october9glory.htm"]10/09 - 10/16 [/URL]made it to the Vessel Sanitation Program list

Only 113 passengers were sick BUT look how many crew members


1,169 (1.71%)[/QUOTE]

Isn't the the same info from the link that I have already posted? :rolleyes:

I knew right away that the crew numbers were off. Wouldn't the number be the number of crew members onboard, or is that number too low?

[quote name='tutsballymac']was it confirmed it was Norovirus? I am due back to work in morning and work with elderly. Was very sick 48 hours on board,(not sea sick!like many), then after coming off ship got sick again for another 48 hours, worst the second time!! a week later I do not feel 100%, I did visit doctor when sick the 2nd time, had lost weight but not dehydrated as I feared.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]From the CDC - The outbreak on the Carnival Glory was named as norovirus.[/QUOTE]

Yes, the illness has been confirmed as Noro. I received an email back from the CDC. They really had no other update as to how the ship was doing this week, but did say that a representative had met the ship in New York and traveled with them to Newark.

They also said the following, so I will inform you if I hear any updates.

[QUOTE]From the CDC - We are forwarding your inquiry to the Vessel Sanitation Program for their information. They will either contact you directly or we will forward any additional information if available.

[/QUOTE]

[pkrchkr]

Just wanted to say to all of you who were effected by this that I hope you feel better really soon.I had 2 years ago and DF had it a few years back . He lost 7 lbs in 3 days but most of it had to be water.. but I hope you get well soon