Mr. Luckytoo Posted February 5, 2011 #76 Share Posted February 5, 2011 All these formals nights are nothing more than shows of pretension drummed up by the cruise lines to make passengers buy all that crappy jewelry that they keep hawking to death once you are on board. Some love them and to each his own. But it sucks if you paid for an owners suite and have to do room service because a bunch of people want to feel self important sporting their new outfits and bling. I mean really, can people get any more sophomoric? By people I take it you are referring to those individuals who have no regard for established rules, think they're 'better' than the rules and want to do what they want to do, are lazy and dress to unimpress? Yeah they CAN be pretty sophomoric can't they? ;) The same people who want to be friends instead of parents and teach their kids how to duck under the bar instead of raising standards? The same people who let MTV insfluence their children instead of Judith Martin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCcruisin07 Posted February 5, 2011 #77 Share Posted February 5, 2011 #4 for me. Formal gowns are beautiful, but I prefer dressy because of space limitations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadSeaLegs Posted February 5, 2011 #78 Share Posted February 5, 2011 By people I take it you are referring to those individuals who have no regard for established rules, think they're 'better' than the rules and want to do what they want to do, are lazy and dress to unimpress? Yeah they CAN be pretty sophomoric can't they? ;) The same people who want to be friends instead of parents and teach their kids how to duck under the bar instead of raising standards? The same people who let MTV insfluence their children instead of Judith Martin? Parents who are friends instead of parents with their kids is an entirely different thread, of which you would be quite surprised on my leanings with that ideation. My attitude is that I have to be dressed for work and when I spend hard earned money on a vacation, I want to be comfortable. While there should be some modicum of decorum established, these formal nights are about as antiquated as the gavotte. People are on vacation, not dining with royalty or in the midst of a professional gathering. If someone is wearing shorts and a T-shirt to dinner, it doesn't change the taste of my food one iota. Same too with gowns and tuxedo's. It doesn't change the taste of my food but the hyperbole wafting from the table next to you can certainly give you a good case of uninterrupted flatulence for an extended period of time. The next time we cruise, we are going to look for a few more specific things. One of them will be, at the very least, an optional formal night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Hampshire Posted February 5, 2011 #79 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I choose #1 or #2. I don't understand why people who despise formal nights choose to sail Celebrity. There are so many cruise lines out there that don't require one to dress up at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachnut2011 Posted February 5, 2011 #80 Share Posted February 5, 2011 If forced to follow the dress code and I do, #4. Yet, I would love to see #5. Should I be required to dress formal or casual on the entire ship for that night, I would find another cruise line.........In a heartbeat............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maz_1 Posted February 5, 2011 #81 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Number 3 for me. But I love the Formal nights, dressing up in a beautiful long dress & the men so smart in their Tuxes. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino Player Posted February 5, 2011 #82 Share Posted February 5, 2011 #2 is my choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimletgal Posted February 6, 2011 #83 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I don't mind formal nights, my problem is smart casual that you can not wear capris and a nice cotton blouse with nice looking flip flops. You can definitely wear capris and a nice cotton blouse for smart casual. How about substituting sandals for the flip flops? Then you're good to go! Can't understand all the uproar about formal nights. Those who refuse/don't want to "dress up" can either go to the buffet, have room service, Bistro on 5 ("S" Class and Constellation) or sail with another cruise line. Very simple, actually. We all know what is considered proper dress for dinner prior to reserving a cruise with Celebrity, so why fight it? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natshala Posted February 6, 2011 #84 Share Posted February 6, 2011 3 for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fungo Posted February 7, 2011 #85 Share Posted February 7, 2011 #2 Though we enjoy dressing well, I couldn't care less what the person across from me is (or is not) wearing. Good food, god wine, and good company make for a good time, apparel be damned. That said, formal nights are a cruise tradition that many people (my DW and I included) enjoy, so I say give a place where formal attire is required, let those who wish to participate do so, and leave the rest of the ship open to its normal dress code. These ships are huge. Surely there's enough room for those who wish to dress formally, those who are feeling CCC, and those who only packed their flip-flops and a good book. Above all else, I say: live and let live. How often do you get to go on vacation (and how hard do you work to earn one)? To let something so silly as what somebody *else* is wearing ruin it seems a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbappel Posted February 26, 2011 #86 Share Posted February 26, 2011 #1 Since there wasn't the choice I really think - which is that the ship should be formal, but the buffet area and pool should be smart casual or casual, allowing a nice place to dine for those who can't bear the formality, but providing a lovely venue for those of us who relish the appearance of strangers strolling in formal garb. I also don't like the each and every one choice, since there are always extenuating circumstances that should allow for interindividual differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solstice23 Posted February 26, 2011 #87 Share Posted February 26, 2011 3 for us! And Formal night should be Called BLACK TIE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzfanatic Posted February 26, 2011 #88 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Here's a thought .... Let's have Celebrity get with the times and finally get rid of the requirement for formal night. For those who wish to dine formally, make one or more of the specialty restaurants formal only. That way, for those who can't stand to be without a jacket or tie there will be a venue for them to enjoy themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittenkboo Posted February 26, 2011 #89 Share Posted February 26, 2011 #2. The poll is for formal nights. If it is not a formal night, country club casual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloomcruisers Posted February 26, 2011 #90 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I vote for #1. If you are going to have a formal night, then have people dress formally. Since that doesn't seem popular anymore, then make it a "formal or not" like NCL does but require at least #3 type of attire. As for what constitutes country club casual.... How about "If the clothing might also be appropriately worn for digging in your garden or playing football (examples: jeans, shorts, t-shirts, sweatshirts, baseball caps, flipflops, etc), then it is not country club casual! If you would never in a million years consider kneeling in the dirt, lolling in the sand, or working out in the gym wearing the clothing, then it is most likely fine to wear as CCC." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maz_1 Posted February 26, 2011 #91 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I think 3 for me. I love to dress up.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Raider Posted February 26, 2011 #92 Share Posted February 26, 2011 #4 for me #4 for me, too. I love to change out of my formal wear (or not even go to formal dinner some nights) right after dinner and enjoy the casino or a show in my comfortable clothes I get the reason for formal night and whereas I really don't think people should dress like slobs in the dining room, they should be able to do so outside of that arena without being quarantined to their room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susieh Posted February 26, 2011 #93 Share Posted February 26, 2011 number 1 for me. Have sailed NCL and found the 'formal or not' night meant hardly anyone was formal so we felt out of place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miched Posted February 27, 2011 #94 Share Posted February 27, 2011 (re: what is country club casual) They are responding because they have THEIR version of Country Club Casual, which as we all know, is often different than somebody else's idea of CCC. Logic to me would mean that they belong to a social club and live in the country. So it would be broken in bib overalls and a straw hat. Now if it was dress up it would be a clean pair of bib overalls, T shirt, shoes and socks. I would have suggested boots but those are reserved for special occasions. Being more serious I could never understand the thing about a tux. I had to have a tux for the fraternal organization that I joined. The whole outfit with shirt, bow tie cuff links, cumber bun, vest and etc cost less than any suit that I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonedd Posted February 27, 2011 #95 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Sorry if my ideas have been beaten to death, I haven't read every post yet (I will). Also, this is me just going off, I'm pretty liberal on a daily basis... Here's what I would like to see-- Evenings (5:30 on) should be formal, as in tie and dress. Personally, I think tuxes are pointless, and many people would have to rent them, so a policy would be exploited as a revenue stream. Any man with self respect should own and wear a tie and a decent shirt. That said (and as a reminder it was -5F the week before I cruised), I think a jacket should be optional. I was really hot on the ship. Any man who loves his wife should buy her a nice dress in the lead time before the cruise. Women should wear a dress, or a decent slacks/top outfit in the evenings. I think this should be every night. People would be interested in attending shows, dancing to the quartet, and approaching other passengers, if they knew that everyone walking around was putting forth their best effort to feel festive and to participate in the mood. I think of it as like being a teenager visiting my grandparents on Christmas (no age analogy intended, just a scenerio). Of course nobody is going to make me feel unwelcome if I want to show up with spiked hair and camo pants, but why can't I give a little too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowisthetime1 Posted February 27, 2011 #96 Share Posted February 27, 2011 # 2 for dining and #3 other times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvbluseas Posted February 27, 2011 #97 Share Posted February 27, 2011 #1 FORMAL EVENING MEANS FORMAL EVENING. MOST PEOPLE CAN'T EVEN FIGURE OUT WHAT "FORMAL" MEANS HOW WOULD YOU EVER EXPECT THEM TO FIGURE OUT WHAT "COUNTRY CLUB CASUAL" MEANS? IF THEY WANT TO WEAR "COUNTRY CLUB CASUAL" THEY SHOULD SAIL "OCEANIA". WE SAIL CELEBRITY BECAUSE WE LIKE FORMAL EVENING; WE KNOW WHAT IT MEANS; WE WEAR IT ALL EVENING! IF I HAD A HUSBAND THAT REFUSED TO WEAR A TIE I WOULD TRADE HIM IN FOR ONE THAT HAD SOME CLASS.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Junky Posted February 27, 2011 #98 Share Posted February 27, 2011 #1 IF THEY WANT TO WEAR "COUNTRY CLUB CASUAL" THEY SHOULD SAIL "OCEANIA". .:eek:[/size][/u][/i][/b] I think celebrity would prefer you steer people to Azamara rather than Oceania :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzfanatic Posted February 27, 2011 #99 Share Posted February 27, 2011 #1 FORMAL EVENING MEANS FORMAL EVENING. MOST PEOPLE CAN'T EVEN FIGURE OUT WHAT "FORMAL" MEANS HOW WOULD YOU EVER EXPECT THEM TO FIGURE OUT WHAT "COUNTRY CLUB CASUAL" MEANS? IF THEY WANT TO WEAR "COUNTRY CLUB CASUAL" THEY SHOULD SAIL "OCEANIA". WE SAIL CELEBRITY BECAUSE WE LIKE FORMAL EVENING; WE KNOW WHAT IT MEANS; WE WEAR IT ALL EVENING! IF I HAD A HUSBAND THAT REFUSED TO WEAR A TIE I WOULD TRADE HIM IN FOR ONE THAT HAD SOME CLASS.:eek: These are exactly the type of posts that shut down these threads. You gave your opinion about what you'd like to see happen - leave it there. Are you suggesting that any man who refuses to wear a tie on formal night has no class? I certainly hope you are not being serious :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bchoi Posted February 27, 2011 #100 Share Posted February 27, 2011 #2 Nothing is more annoying when you get dress up in suits or tuxedos and evening gowns and the table next to you is in t-shirts and jeans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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