euro cruiser Posted September 26, 2011 #1 Share Posted September 26, 2011 At the moment there is a planned national train strike for Friday, October 21, 2011. The stike is against Gruppo FS and will impact Trenitalia, the national train line. It is scheduled to begin at 9 AM and conclude at 5 PM, which means that cruise passengers planning to use the train from ports (especially Civitavecchia and Livorno) may need to make other plans. Note that these stikes are often called off before they actually happen, but it's a good idea to have a backup plan in case the stike does go on as currently planned. You can see the strike listed on two official government sites, the commission that oversees strike actions here (http://www.commissionegaranziasciopero.it/dettaglioSciopero?id=21339&tipo=res) and the Ministry of Transportation here (http://www.mit.gov.it/mit/site.php?p=scioperi). This strike does not impact the Circumvesuviana, the commuter train line that serves Naples, Pompei and Sorrento. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dln929 Posted September 26, 2011 #2 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Talk about striking fear into my heart! Fortunately though our flight from Pisa leaves on the 19th. Talk about a close escape. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted September 26, 2011 #3 Share Posted September 26, 2011 And I arrive in Rome on the 22nd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euro cruiser Posted September 26, 2011 Author #4 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Well I'll be there that day, but fortunately have already planned to travel by bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texancruzer Posted September 26, 2011 #5 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Well, here I sit waiting for the November "strike agenda" for both Italy and Greece :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pbears Posted September 26, 2011 #6 Share Posted September 26, 2011 We arrive in Rome on the 21st and will be going directly to the airport. We have a driver arranged to pick us up at the ship, but I guess this means that traffic will be unusually heavy between the ship and the airport? How much extra time should we allow for the trip? We will be leaving the ship at 7 AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruise kitty Posted September 26, 2011 #7 Share Posted September 26, 2011 We arrive on the 16th, & are taking the train to port on the 20th... looks like we got lucky by one day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euro cruiser Posted September 26, 2011 Author #8 Share Posted September 26, 2011 We arrive in Rome on the 21st and will be going directly to the airport. We have a driver arranged to pick us up at the ship, but I guess this means that traffic will be unusually heavy between the ship and the airport? How much extra time should we allow for the trip? We will be leaving the ship at 7 AM. Not necessarily. The strike doesn't begin until 9 AM so that commuters can take the train into work, and ends at 5 PM so they can get home. The train is not a popular travel option for cruisers with luggage, especially those who need to get to the airport for a flight, so that will not significantly increase the road traffic from Civitavecchia to the airport. Your transfer company will be the best source of information on the impact, if any; check with them and follow their advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eileen G Posted September 26, 2011 #9 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Unfortunatly we had planned to take the train into Rome that day at the end of our cruise. Looks like I will have to find other transportation. I don't want to gamble that the strike will be called off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CathyCruises Posted September 26, 2011 #10 Share Posted September 26, 2011 We arrive on the 25th and plan to take the train to Zurich on the 28th--please keep us posted as a one week delay will really mess us up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euro cruiser Posted September 26, 2011 Author #11 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Unfortunatly we had planned to take the train into Rome that day at the end of our cruise. Looks like I will have to find other transportation. I don't want to gamble that the strike will be called off. It's always a good idea to have a back up plan; maybe you can book something that can be canceled without penalty if the strike is called off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eileen G Posted September 26, 2011 #12 Share Posted September 26, 2011 It's always a good idea to have a back up plan; maybe you can book something that can be canceled without penalty if the strike is called off? I think most transfer companies want a week notice. I will have my netbook so I will keep abreast of the situation. Do you know how soon I could know if they call it off. I thought it was usually the day before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euro cruiser Posted September 26, 2011 Author #13 Share Posted September 26, 2011 There's no pattern that I've ever noticed. I have a gut feeling that this one will not be called off, because it's a Friday and because the heritage sites workers are also calling a strike for the same day. If it happens it will be a tough day for tourists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deedeetoo Posted September 27, 2011 #14 Share Posted September 27, 2011 A bit off topic - but I am wondering about the point of these strikes that are so well planned and announced ahead of time. In the US, employees usually go on strike when their contract runs out and negotiations with management have not been successful. The strike is intended to financially hurt and inconvenience management so that they will be forced to sign a contract that is advantageous to the workers. It usually ends when an agreement is reached. These strikes in Italy seem to be for a completely different reason. A strike that is planned a month ahead of time for 8 hours accomplishes what? Is it just an extra day off for the workers? A planned "play hooky" day"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusin6 Posted September 27, 2011 #15 Share Posted September 27, 2011 And I arrive in Rome on the 22nd! get on the horn with Stefano from Rome Cabs...he will get you into Rome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Cruiser Posted September 27, 2011 #16 Share Posted September 27, 2011 We need to take a train from Venice to Milan on Oct 14. I believe I have also read about unplanned strikes sometimes happening. Just in case, we are going to obtain an international drivers license from AAA this week. It will cost about $33, cheap insurance I figure. Comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euro cruiser Posted September 27, 2011 Author #17 Share Posted September 27, 2011 A bit off topic - but I am wondering about the point of these strikes that are so well planned and announced ahead of time. In the US, employees usually go on strike when their contract runs out and negotiations with management have not been successful. The strike is intended to financially hurt and inconvenience management so that they will be forced to sign a contract that is advantageous to the workers. It usually ends when an agreement is reached. These strikes in Italy seem to be for a completely different reason. A strike that is planned a month ahead of time for 8 hours accomplishes what? Is it just an extra day off for the workers? A planned "play hooky" day"? Among other things, it's a form of protest, of making a public statement of dissatisfaction. As political measures to address the European financial crisis are proposed and, eventually, enacted I would expect to see more strikes, and even some "wildcat" ones that are not announced in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted September 27, 2011 #18 Share Posted September 27, 2011 get on the horn with Stefano from Rome Cabs...he will get you into Rome Why? The strike will be over when I arrive. ;) And I can just grab a cab at FCO if needs be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galveston Cruiser Posted September 27, 2011 #19 Share Posted September 27, 2011 We need to take a train from Venice to Milan on Oct 14. I believe I have also read about unplanned strikes sometimes happening. Just in case, we are going to obtain an international drivers license from AAA this week. It will cost about $33, cheap insurance I figure. Comments? Why? I have always used my Texas Drivers License, even when I lived there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euro cruiser Posted September 27, 2011 Author #20 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Technically an IDP (International Driving Permit) is required in Italy; however, most renters never wind up needing it. In over a decade of renting cars in Italy I've never had one rental agent ask to see it, so you can rent a car without one. If you get stopped by the police and you don't have an IDP, you could have a problem. All the IDP does is translate your key information into other languages (in this case, Italian) so the reader can easily figure it out. It makes the interaction with the police go smoother and faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadzone1003 Posted September 27, 2011 #21 Share Posted September 27, 2011 If a train that is scheduled to leave from point A at 7:30am and to arrive at point B at 8:59am, will it make it to point B if it is a few minutes late? Do they walk off the job at 9am, no matter where they are?:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euro cruiser Posted September 27, 2011 Author #22 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Generally if the train goes at all, it will go to its destination. That's generally, but not always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusin6 Posted September 27, 2011 #23 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Why? The strike will be over when I arrive. ;) And I can just grab a cab at FCO if needs be. OH I forgot..DYI....but I am curious just how much is a cab to Rome versus having a driver in a van waiting for you? I paid 65E to get from FCO to the Hotel Mozart in a van with plenty of room for my family of 6. I can't help it but in my mind...DYI...means getting my own way in to town and making it easy...that is why I would have a driver waiting with my name on a sign..... a taxi or the train is just not worth it to these DYIers... Also, when you put the ! after your post..it looked to me that you as well were concerned about a strike on the day you arrive...my bad:D I just figured you knew/thought that there was a strike scheduled and that is why you ! your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingEsq Posted September 27, 2011 #24 Share Posted September 27, 2011 There's no pattern that I've ever noticed. I have a gut feeling that this one will not be called off, because it's a Friday and because the heritage sites workers are also calling a strike for the same day. If it happens it will be a tough day for tourists. Yikes! Euro Cruiser, that's my day in Rome! What will this mean? I have a car and driver for the day, tour of the Vatican, etc. What will be impacted? We're planning to see the Vatican, the Colosseum, the Pantheon, Steps, Fountain, John the Lantern, and the other major sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euro cruiser Posted September 27, 2011 Author #25 Share Posted September 27, 2011 The Vatican and other churches will not be impacted, nor will the Pantheon (which is a church, after all). The Trevi fountain and Spanish Steps will be available to you, but if the heritage sites workers go out the Colosseum and Forum will not be open. You'll be able to walk around it and take pictures from the outside, but not go in. While it's never ideal when something like this happens, it can be a blessing in disguise as it forces us to open our eyes to other sites we may have overlooked otherwise. Given the list you have, it would have been hard to squeeze the Colosseum and Forum in anyway, so maybe this is just as well. One additional church to consider, if you are going up to St. John Lateran anyway, is San Clemente. It's between the Colosseum and St. John Lateran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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