Oasis/Allure vs. Nimitz aircraft carrier in weight

[JokerABC]

I was doing my research while waiting for my next cruise, so for the engineering and mechanical types, how does the Nimitz class aircraft carrier compare with Oasis and Allure with regard to the actual mass of the ship?

 

Many people confuse displacement with gross tonnage (GT). Obviously, Oasis has more GT at 225,000, and that is the measure of internal volume. But both ships have the same displacement, which is the weight it puts on the water.

 

"Her displacement—the actual mass of the vessel—is estimated at approximately 100,000 tons, about the same as that of an American Nimitz-class aircraft carrier."

 

Length: 1181 ft(Oasis) and 1092 ft(aircraft carrier)

Beam, or width: 198 ft. extreme, 154 ft. waterline, (Oasis) and 252 ft. extreme, 134 ft. waterline (aircraft carrier)

Height: 236 ft(Oasis) and 240 ft(aircraft carrier, to top of control island tower)

 

The Nimitz class as 2 nuclear reactors as engines, so moves much faster at over 30 knots.

 

Anybody else have any thoughts or other information on the size comparison of the 2 biggest class of ships in the world for the engineering nerds and mechanical types?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[rolloman]

I can neither confirm nor deny any questions asked about our US Navy Carriers.

[Eng23]

The Oasis/Allure can only land one helicopter at a time. An aircraft carrier can handle well, more than one. :)

[Rancher Dave]

Crew : Pax ration is far better on the USNS than the Oasis class...

Dress code more likely followed on the carrier than on Oasis....:eek:

[UNV-IT!!!]

Think the USNS can hold more total fuel also.

[Sequim88]

Carrier says; "Choice Air? We don't need no stinkin' Choice Air!"

[Aquahound]

Major differences:

 

Nimitz - No one wears hats in the dining facilites (except the people cooking).

 

Nimitz - Upgrades in "status" are truly earned and status pins on clothing are mandatory.

 

Oasis - Beds are more comfortable.

 

Oasis - You can yell at the officers and not be Court Martialed.

 

In a race, Nimitz would blow Oasis' hatches off.

[petel]

Carrier says; "Choice Air? We don't need no stinkin' Choice Air!"

 

So far, the quote is my favorite comment.....

 

And here is the next.........ah........thought......... :eek:

 

Can the Nimitz parrallel park ? :p Who cares how fast you get there if you have to park 3 miles from the shop? :rolleyes:

[bigque]

MDR On The Nimitz:

 

 

MDR on Oasis:

 

 

And guess who complains the most???

[The Big Booper]

Major differences:

 

Nimitz - No one wears hats in the dining facilites (except the people cooking).

 

Nimitz - Upgrades in "status" are truly earned and status pins on clothing are mandatory.

 

Oasis - Beds are more comfortable.

 

Oasis - You can yell at the officers and not be Court Martialed.

 

In a race, Nimitz would blow Oasis' hatches off.

 

On a cruise we took several years ago, one of our tablemates was an experienced power plant engineer who was the lead, for one project, of designing and installing upgrades to the power system of one of the carriers. For a week he played Captain of the ship as his team ran the shakedown cruise of the ship to make sure that everything was working correctly, including running some actual launch and recovery cycles of the F 18s.

 

He was told, indirectly, that the carrier has a max speed of over 60 knots. That is some movin' and groovin'.

[klingoncruiser]

LOL... .what fun this thread is. Keep it up!

 

Oasis.... price per person

 

Nimitz.... free (well, they do make you work for your passage though):D

[orville99]

I think the most accurate measure is deadweight.

 

Oasis - depends on the number of pax compalining about tips; rum-runners; formal wear; or MDR food. Directly correlated to the number of chair hogs/sea day.

 

Nimitz - depends on how full the brig is

[rolloman]

On a cruise we took several years ago, one of our tablemates was an experienced power plant engineer who was the lead, for one project, of designing and installing upgrades to the power system of one of the carriers. For a week he played Captain of the ship as his team ran the shakedown cruise of the ship to make sure that everything was working correctly, including running some actual launch and recovery cycles of the F 18s.

 

He was told, indirectly, that the carrier has a max speed of over 60 knots. That is some movin' and groovin'.

One of my duties when I was in the Navy onboard an aircraft carrier had to do with ships speed. Trust me when I say any of the cruise ships built today do not stand a chance with speed and manuveurs of a carrier. Of course when we were steaming full speed you could really feel it. I think that may have been where they got the term batten down the hatches.

[The Big Booper]

One of my duties when I was in the Navy onboard an aircraft carrier had to do with ships speed. Trust me when I say any of the cruise ships built today do not stand a chance with speed and manuveurs of a carrier. Of course when we were steaming full speed you could really feel it. I think that may have been where they got the term batten down the hatches.

 

That's what he said.

 

He also said that he was told that after finishing a deployment in the MidEast the carrier raced back to it's home port (Va?) and beat the support ships by 36 hours. Guys running the carriers have the mindset of Jet Jockeys.

[GaryfmCol]

I can tell y'all... ;)

After spending 9 months in our "compartment" (the name for a berthing space cabin) aboard

our aircraft carrier, with NO WINDOWS/Portholes or "verandas", and, sleeping in what was called "racks"..

A week, in an "inside stateroom" aboard a cruise ship is heavenly...and, even enjoyable... :p

[wcook]

Something tells me the captain of the carrier doesn't host a champagne cocktail reception.

[garnetpalmetto]

That's what he said.

 

He also said that he was told that after finishing a deployment in the MidEast the carrier raced back to it's home port (Va?) and beat the support ships by 36 hours. Guys running the carriers have the mindset of Jet Jockeys.

 

That's because generally they are - it's actually law that all CVN COs have to have been naval aviators or naval flight officers.

[Stags14]

Comparing apples to oranges here.

 

Other than being designed to float, their engineering designs are totally different.

[one9marine]

I can tell y'all... ;)

After spending 9 months in our "compartment" (the name for a berthing space cabin) aboard

our aircraft carrier, with NO WINDOWS/Portholes or "verandas", and, sleeping in what was called "racks"..

A week, in an "inside stateroom" aboard a cruise ship is heavenly...and, even enjoyable... :p

you think that's bad, you should be doing a cruise as a member of a Marine rifle company. an inside is like the Ritz Carlton.

[bus man]

I'm guessing the "persons per bathroom ratio" is much, much better on the Oasis than the Nimitz. That said, I'd love to take a cruise on both of these vessels. (As a passenger, that is. I'm not too keen on the idea of working on a cruise.)

[Universe93B]

The Oasis was compared to the aircraft carrier often when it was under construction. The displacement is the best measure here to compare the mass of the two ships. That's how much pressure is put on the water by the ship. So the Nimitz aircraft carrier and Oasis weighs the same.

[rolloman]

Something tells me the captain of the carrier doesn't host a champagne cocktail reception.

Actually we do. When we have been at sea over a 100 days with no liberty each sailor is entitled to two bottles of beer each. We called it steel beach and had steaks grilled to go with our beer. Fact.

[petel]

Comparing apples to oranges here.

 

Other than being designed to float, their engineering designs are totally different.

 

You are absolutely right. We're just having some fun.

 

War ship / Cruise ship .........

Fight/survive / Sleep in Comfort /eat too much-

........................../......fight for seats/survive casino

 

Here is another serious point :D .....

I love to feel the roll of the sea, I love the sea air ,and I love to travel; BUT I could never wear white :rolleyes: so I had to buy a ticket on RCI .............:p

[orville99]

The Oasis was compared to the aircraft carrier often when it was under construction. The displacement is the best measure here to compare the mass of the two ships. That's how much pressure is put on the water by the ship. So the Nimitz aircraft carrier and Oasis weighs the same.

 

 

Not really, displacement also factors in hull shape, length, width, carriage, and distribution of mass (center of gravity).

 

The only true measure is deadweight (the mathematical sum of the weight of all of the materials that were used in construction (factors out people/provisions/fuel/carriage - which are variables). The deadweight of Oasis/Allure is 25,000 tons.

[The Big Booper]

Not really, displacement also factors in hull shape, length, width, carriage, and distribution of mass (center of gravity).

 

The only true measure is deadweight (the mathematical sum of the weight of all of the materials that were used in construction (factors out people/provisions/fuel/carriage - which are variables). The deadweight of Oasis/Allure is 25,000 tons.

 

Then what is the deadweight of a Nimitz class vessel? Curious minds.......