vmom Posted December 30, 2012 #1 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I am in the middle of planning a cruise to northern Europe area. Was comparing cruises and prices. I noticed that the Carnival Legend goes to the Baltic for 12 days and is half the price of Princess. With European cruises being so port focused, I am debating on trying out the Legend and saving the extra money for port excursions. The Legend has a 12 day for $1229 per person /inside cabin. Princess is double that. I don't want to be disappointed in the cruise but that savings could be used for excursions. I also have noticed that sometimes Princess cruises to Europe drop in the spring, so I was debating on if I should hold off and wait for price drops. I would be cruising in July 2012. Any and all thought would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted December 30, 2012 #2 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Princess goes to Stockholm and Oslo, Carnival Legend does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsqrl Posted December 30, 2012 #3 Share Posted December 30, 2012 My first thought is that you missed your cruise . . . No, no, I know you meant 2013. My real thought is that the Princess itinerary is better -- departure from Copenhagen instead of London (not that I don't love London, and I guess if you've never been there, that's a plus), and you get Oslo, Aarhus, and Stockholm. The Carnival itinerary, by contrast, has more sea days and a short port call (4pm sailing) in Copenhagen. Another consideration: with four sea days, that's a lot of time on a ship you maybe aren't sure you'll enjoy. I think, if it were me, I'd wait for spring to see if the price drops, and see what your TA can do for discounts, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Flyer Posted December 30, 2012 #4 Share Posted December 30, 2012 While I'd consider the price difference my experience particularly to Europe is that prices drop considerably so it may end up close to the same price. My recently completed Rome to Galveston cruise dropped considerably plus we got better cabins between initial booking & final payment. I don't know if Carnival has an overnight stay in St. Petersburg but I'd highly recommend the 2 day stay as I found it to be one of the most interesting places I've ever visited. While I've only sailed on shorter Carnival cruises several years ago from LA to me their Vegas-glitz type of cruising is not what we prefer on our cruises but it may be okay for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmom Posted December 30, 2012 Author #5 Share Posted December 30, 2012 While I'd consider the price difference my experience particularly to Europe is that prices drop considerably so it may end up close to the same price. My recently completed Rome to Galveston cruise dropped considerably plus we got better cabins between initial booking & final payment. I don't know if Carnival has an overnight stay in St. Petersburg but I'd highly recommend the 2 day stay as I found it to be one of the most interesting places I've ever visited. While I've only sailed on shorter Carnival cruises several years ago from LA to me their Vegas-glitz type of cruising is not what we prefer on our cruises but it may be okay for you. Thanks for sharing your experiences with price drops. I was thinking that maybe the price would become more competitive. The Vegas-gllitz style is not my cup of tea either, which is why I have been reluctant to try Carnival in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmom Posted December 30, 2012 Author #6 Share Posted December 30, 2012 My first thought is that you missed your cruise . . . No, no, I know you meant 2013. My real thought is that the Princess itinerary is better -- departure from Copenhagen instead of London (not that I don't love London, and I guess if you've never been there, that's a plus), and you get Oslo, Aarhus, and Stockholm. The Carnival itinerary, by contrast, has more sea days and a short port call (4pm sailing) in Copenhagen. Another consideration: with four sea days, that's a lot of time on a ship you maybe aren't sure you'll enjoy. I think, if it were me, I'd wait for spring to see if the price drops, and see what your TA can do for discounts, too. Oops, glad you caught my typo...yes I meant 2013. Actually I am looking for cruises that go out of London since there is a professional conference in London we will be attending. I was hoping to add the cruise to our plans either before the conference or after the conference, so we will have to be in London anyway. Besides, I have never been to England and was looking forward to some touring there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted December 30, 2012 #7 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I don't know if Carnival has an overnight stay in St. Petersburg but I'd highly recommend the 2 day stay as I found it to be one of the most interesting places I've ever visited. Carnival itinerary is there for two days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epixx Posted December 30, 2012 #8 Share Posted December 30, 2012 We sailed the Carnival Splendor with the same itinerary in 2008, as well as the Carnival Liberty Med twice before that. Note that the Carnival atmosphere in Europe is entirely different from the Caribbean Carnival atmosphere, which we have also experienced. Having also sailed the Ruby Grand Med, I would say that the European Carnival ships are not wild party ships at all, and are very similar, in our experience, to those of Princess. Both ships had a large mix of older folks, younger adults, and families, including Americans, Europeans, and Australians. I would also say that the Carnival Baltic cruise was my favorite of all the ones I have sailed. Because of the outstanding itinerary, I highly recommend either one. If you have a particular interest in seeing Berlin on your own, the Legend wins based its early port arrival, which usually allows passengers to catch the first ICE train to Berlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakiron Posted December 30, 2012 #9 Share Posted December 30, 2012 First thing I would do is put down a deposit for the Carnival Legend. If the Princess price does not drop you will be locked in and if it does you can cancel the Carnival cruise and get back the deposit. Being Europe this will not be a party ship but a sight seeing cruise for most passengers. Since you mentioned you will already be attending a conference in London the Carnival cruise should save in airfare and convenience. From London you can probably transfer to Dover by using National Express bus service, inexpensive and convenient and maybe stay a night or 2 in Dover. The Legend does stop in Amsterdam, great port, think Ann Frank house, Van Gogh museum if you haven't been before. I love Princes but I believe you wouldn't be disappointed with Carnival on this particular cruise. Ken... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoBaycruiser Posted December 30, 2012 #10 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I am in the middle of planning a cruise to northern Europe area. Was comparing cruises and prices. I noticed that the Carnival Legend goes to the Baltic for 12 days and is half the price of Princess. With European cruises being so port focused, I am debating on trying out the Legend and saving the extra money for port excursions. The Legend has a 12 day for $1229 per person /inside cabin. Princess is double that. I don't want to be disappointed in the cruise but that savings could be used for excursions. I also have noticed that sometimes Princess cruises to Europe drop in the spring, so I was debating on if I should hold off and wait for price drops. I would be cruising in July 2012. Any and all thought would be appreciated. If you are comparing the Ocean Princess Baltic trip that leaves the same day as the Legend, than I think waiting for a better fare on Princess isn't that wise. The Ocean Princess is a much smaller ship than the Emerald and certain categories are already sold out. I'm on the June trip and there are very few rooms left. The best prices were around Labor Day. There is an air fare incentive right now that might help with the price difference. Plus the OP voyage is two more days and includes Stockholm, Riga and Klaipeda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyondships Posted December 30, 2012 #11 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Cruise lines and cruise ships are not fungible. Just because you like cruising on Princess does not mean that you will like cruising on Carnival. (The same is true vice versa). Carnival is a much different cruise experience than Princess. Quite a few people like both but you should really investigate whether you would like the Carnival lifestyle. Price should not be the determinate factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmom Posted December 30, 2012 Author #12 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Thanks for the suggestions. I was actually looking at the Crown Princess. The price is about $2700 for 14 days. I know its 14 days vs 12 days, but it also has 4 sea days. Its about a $1400 difference in price compared to the Carnival Legend. Another idea was the HAL Ryndam which is a 7 day from the London area to Norway. If we went that option, we would spend some of the extra time seeing England. There was also a Celebrity cruise to Iceland which fits into our dates. I just am not at all familiar with Iceland so I don't know if that is of interest to us or not. I have never talked to anyone about Iceland before. Unfortunately and fortunately, having a conference in London has both a good and negative side. The conference is what brought about the idea of going on a European cruise to begin with since we have to be there anyway, why not combine it with vacation time. The downside is that we are limited to our sailing dates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Flyer Posted December 30, 2012 #13 Share Posted December 30, 2012 If you are comparing the Ocean Princess Baltic trip that leaves the same day as the Legend, than I think waiting for a better fare on Princess isn't that wise. The Ocean Princess is a much smaller ship than the Emerald and certain categories are already sold out. I'm on the June trip and there are very few rooms left. The best prices were around Labor Day. There is an air fare incentive right now that might help with the price difference. Plus the OP voyage is two more days and includes Stockholm, Riga and Klaipeda. If it's on the Ocean that would be a big consideration for me because whenever I've considered a smaller Princess ship prices were higher & being popular ships with less available cabins may often be priced higher. That's good to hear that it's generally not a party crowd on Carnival in Europe but there's nothing they can do about the ship's interior design. Maybe newer ships aren't as shocking to the eye with lots of neon & shine. As I said previously I'd consider Carnival if the price was drastically lower. Now it's up to the OP to consider all of the variables to decide the best way for them to experience a wonderful Baltic cruise. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoBaycruiser Posted December 30, 2012 #14 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Another possibility is Royal Caribbean's Brilliance of the Seas out of London Harwich on July 14th for 14 days. The price seems in the middle between the Crown Princess and Carnival Legend. It is a 14 day Baltic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Essiesmom Posted December 30, 2012 #15 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I would take a Carnival cruise in Europe in a heartbeat, being aware that the will not be any enrichment lecturers onboard. It was my only dieappointment on a Carnival TA, lots of sea days and no lecturers. EM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickEk Posted December 30, 2012 #16 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Princess is having a big sale on airfare to Europe. You mght want to check the air prices and that might factor into your decision... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul929207 Posted December 30, 2012 #17 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Have you checked the Princess price with discount TAs. I doubt youwill get it for half price, but you will probably narrow the difference. Throw in the FCC and Shareholder OBC. And you could be pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deminggraham Posted December 30, 2012 #18 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I tried the Legend several years ago and hated the ship. It was so gaudy that it was offensive. The theme is greek mythology carried to a gaudy extreme with a lobby filled with cheap looking plastic urns. I love the peaceful elegance of Princess ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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