CNN reporting another Carnival Ship having trouble (The Dream)

[WhoDat2009]

Anyone know where I can book a 4-day cruise with a free two-day stay at the final port and included flights back home? That would be the best itinerary ever.

 

Thanks in advance

[Cruizinman]

If I were still expecting two sea days, it's not unusual for me to have several hundred (or more) in casino ships in my room safe. With the casino not reopening, I wonder how people will be able to cash in their chips.

 

Just another side issue - perhaps it has already been taken care of onboard (announcement for people to go to the cage or similar).

 

Tom

 

Cash in their chips,I've never had such luck :p

[ducklite]

If I were still expecting two sea days, it's not unusual for me to have several hundred (or more) in casino ships in my room safe. With the casino not reopening, I wonder how people will be able to cash in their chips.

 

Just another side issue - perhaps it has already been taken care of onboard (announcement for people to go to the cage or similar).

 

Tom

 

While they can't open the casino for play, there's no reason they can't open the cashiers window.

[Gingee]

Has Dream had issues?

[chengkp75]

From Carnival:

We know there have been questions on the conditions onboard Carnival Dream last night and wanted to update you. We have had multiple conversations with the ship’s management team. Based on the ship’s service logs and extensive physical monitoring of all public areas, including restrooms, throughout the night, we can confirm that only one public restroom was taken offline for cleaning based on toilet overflow and there was a total of one request for cleaning of a guest cabin bathroom. Aside from that there have been no reports of issues on board with overflowing toilets or sewage. The toilet system had periodic interruptions yesterday evening and was fully restored at approximately 12.30am this morning.

 

Sounds like PR BS to me to try and repair their already ruined public image. Read between the lines and notice they chose their words carefully. The truth will come out when people get back to the US with pics and video. I find it hard to believe only ONE stateroom bathroom on the whole ship had problems. The system doesn't work that way.

 

Actually, the system can and does work that way. There are usually several different vacuum systems throughout the ship, not just one. So loss of one vacuum system will only affect one area of the ship. Loss of the vacuum system does not cause toilets to overflow, nor does it cause them to spew forth filth to cover the walls and ceilings. What causes toilets to overflow is as I have posted earlier, continuing to push the flush button after the first failed flush. Ben Franklin defined insanity as "doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result each time". If it didn't go down on the first push, it ain't going down after the 5th push. One thing I forgot to mention in my previous post about toilets, if you've pressed the button once, and it doesn't flush, once vacuum is restored, it will flush by itself.

 

Most loss of vacuum in these toilet systems are caused by passengers flushing the most unbelievable things down the toilet. I won't go into details, but sometimes it takes us several hours to roto-root someone's underwear from a sewage line.

 

The public restrooms are more prone to flooding problems as the previous poster who had been on the Triumph stated. Urinals have a different plumbing system than toilets, and can start to overflow when vacuum is lost. If its a long term problem, such as roto-rooting out a towel, maintenance will plug the urinal piping until the problem is resolved.

 

I am opening up myself for sever flaming here, but the reports of sewage running down the walls on the Triumph just don't add up. What I believe people saw was the 10-20 tons of condensation that the A/C unit was not removing from the air running down over the dusty/dirty tops and backsides of the cabin ceilings and walls. There is just no way that sewage would flow from the deck above into your cabin, except down the stairwells.

[thephillykid]

July....it should be back in service way way before that. Relax

[Aquahound]

If I were still expecting two sea days, it's not unusual for me to have several hundred (or more) in casino ships in my room safe.

 

I bet they all wish they had a few extra "ships" on hand. ;):D

[ducklite]

So an I reading this right ? Their allowing people to stay on the ship until it's repaired, if the customer dos not want to fly home :eek:.

 

I'm not sure where you are seeing that. I highly doubt it's accurate.

[WhoDat2009]

Hello?

Hey these people just showed up on a plane with no passport, their cruise ship broke down. What do I do?

 

Do you have a copy of the cruise itinerary?

 

Yeah, it's right here.

 

...

[Tutankhamen]

Kris Anderson, news anchor for WREG Memphis is on the cruise with his family. He has made several reports stating that the toilets are working. Other news outlets are making it sound far worse then it is. That if they were not sitting in port, you wouldn't even know there is a problem. Toilets were down for just several hours.

 

http://wreg.com/2013/03/14/kris-ande...carnival-ship/

[thephillykid]

Passport issue......moral of the story, never travel without 1 and get into that problem. Just common sense.

[SpeedsterX]

Anyone know where I can book a 4-day cruise with a free two-day stay at the final port and included flights back home? That would be the best itinerary ever.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Absolutely!

 

I got off the Dream 1 month ago and everything went as planned except for missing 2 great ports and replaced by Nassau. :mad:

 

Those lucky bastages on the Dream! Partial refund, cruise that missed 2 sea days, made it to all ports and an extra 2 days in one of the best ports, 50% off next cruise and a flight straight back to port on time! I'd take that "problem" EVERY cruise! The only ones I feel for are the next scheduled cruisers.

[WetToes]

the Dream should be back sailing on its March 23rd itinerary.

 

In your 'dreams'. jk

I'm sure (hope) things will be straightened out by then.

[ejeffo]

I wonder if they really do have a 59GS trip for their bus ties? Would make sense, except for the shunt trip part - most likely to just open the trip coil and maybe lock out the affected bus with an 86 relay. Shipboard electrical systems can get tricky due to their grounding schemes. A phase-to-phase short seems more likely, depending on their transformer connection.

 

/\ /\ What he said. I agree, might need to adjust the finnigan pin too.

[Crusin Kelly]

I would take 2 extra day in St Martin over sea days anytime. They are flying them. I think it's generous that they are compensating them at all.

 

 

me thinks you got it exactly right...

 

first stop is for some Old Man Guavaberry rum there at their rum tasting store...

 

2nd stop is Orient beach - until the rum "evaporates"

 

next stop - Maho beach - right across the street from the airport - close to my departure point. . .

 

better that a sea day for sure !

[gjsmth]

I bet by the March 23rd too. This is the big start to the Spring Break Holiday and I'm sure Carnival will not want to miss this, that would be a big hit to Carnival.

[Warm Breezes]

Just got a tweet stating that Carnival has come to an agreement with St. Maarten airport officials. Travelers without passports won't be delayed or denied boarding in this instance.

 

 

Really....are you certain that they won't be left stranded in a foreign country like so many passport fanatics preach in their dooms day sermons:rolleyes:.

[broberts]

Kris Anderson, news anchor for WREG Memphis is on the cruise with his family. He has made several reports stating that the toilets are working. Other news outlets are making it sound far worse then it is. That if they were not sitting in port, you wouldn't even know there is a problem. Toilets were down for just several hours.

 

http://wreg.com/2013/03/14/kris-ande...carnival-ship/

 

Link is broken, try

 

http://wreg.com/2013/03/14/kris-anderson-among-those-stuck-on-carnival-ship/

 

Quotes about toilets etc. in the video.

[jonbgd]

Hola' shipmate! :D Yeah, I got hooked when the USCG was first mentioned and haven't been able to look away since. It sucks! But hey, as long as I only make up 94% of my ramblings, I'm ok. ;):D

Hey Paul, Its a train wreck wth Carnival lately.

I might be a little hesitant to book with them in the near future

But always appreciatte the info you can provide

 

Now if you can tell me where the body that showed up in MIA came from.... Id be really impressed;):p

[BuffaloBoy]

This nonsense is happening far too often now with Carnival's ships! :cool:

 

Something's up and it won't be CCL's stock quote!

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Carnival is just a crap cruise line.

 

I hate to say it because they were once great. But it is what it is.

[Warm Breezes]

Passport issue......moral of the story, never travel without 1 and get into that problem. Just common sense.

 

 

Sorry...I think you got the wrong moral of this story. Carnival and our government will get them home just like everyone else:rolleyes: and I won't be surprised if they will be on the same planes as those with passports.

[darrengs]

As per John Healds Facebook post:

 

Some of you have been asking about passports and concerened about family members who traveled on the Carnival Dream without them. Let me assure you that we are currently interfacing with St. Maarten and U.S. authorities to work through that and do not anticipate any issues with guests re-entering the U.S. who do not have passports.

Thanks

 

 

Sorry John, but that is a pretty weak statement. There is a HUGE difference between "do not anticipate" and "there won't be any". People need to know that there will NOT be a problem, not simply that you aren't "anticipating" any. If you weren't really anticipating a problem, you wouldn't be interfacing with the authorities.

 

I'm willing to bet that when the Dream left Port Canaveral for this cruise that nobody at Carnival "acticipated" this happening....yet, it did anyway.

 

 

I guess they heard you, per Carnival:

 

Q: What are you doing to help passengers without passports?

 

We have already addressed this issue with the relevant authorities and the guests will not have an issue traveling without passports.

[DryCreek]

Okay, you asked for the technical (I was just spouting off as an example). there are normally two breakers between the main bus and the emergency. The breaker on the main bus side has low voltage trip, so when the ship blacks out, it opens. The emergency side breaker senses the loss of voltage on the "tie" section, and drops out as well. Once the emergency bus senses loss of voltage, the emergency generator will start, and its breaker will close to power the emergency bus. It is not required to have the capability to "feed back" from the emergency bus to the main bus (mainly because the emergency generator could not power all of the ship's hotel), but some do. When power is restored to the main bus, by the main generators, the sequential automation will trip the emergency generator breaker and close the two bus tie breakers.

 

Going from main power to emergency must be done in less than 60 seconds, and going from emergency to main is usually only as long as it takes for the breakers to cycle, a few seconds. Anything in the voltage sensing circuit could account for the failure of the bus ties to remain closed, or it could be a mechanical fault in the breaker.

 

Yeah, due to the floating ground on ships and the ground forcing circuits, grounds will normally not shut down an entire bus. But a phase to phase short would be repairable by opening all circuits on the bus, closing the bus tie, and then sequentially closing breakers until you find the one that "pops the fuse". I'll put my money on either the electromechanical closing/charging circuit in the breaker itself, or the voltage sensing circuit.

 

So, it is always a dead-bus transfer? It would be nice to have the capability of synchronizing the oncoming power source with the running source and then have a bumpless transition. I understand a 27 device clearing the bus for the emergency source to pick up - but at 60 seconds, I take it that the emergency generator has already been running and field flashed? Here, we can have a 7.7 MW diesel generator on the bus in about 190 seconds - but that is starting with a pre-warmed engine.

 

Breaker relaying can be a real pain. I always start troubleshooting at the control power source, and then determine which relays have tripped (or not) and work "in" from there. But, like you said, mechanical issues have been the bane of these larger rackable power breakers for ages. Many of ours have had backup shunt trips installed over the years to combat this very concern.

[darrengs]

Kris Anderson, news anchor for WREG Memphis is on the cruise with his family. He has made several reports stating that the toilets are working. Other news outlets are making it sound far worse then it is. That if they were not sitting in port, you wouldn't even know there is a problem. Toilets were down for just several hours.

 

http://wreg.com/2013/03/14/kris-ande...carnival-ship/

 

Interesting, in the story it states:

 

"Kris tells us they are doing fine and don’t consider the situation too bad, though they have not had toilets since last night."

 

Yet in the video linked to the same story, during the interview he states they have everything up and running just like normal except that they are not at sea, and they lost toilets for a few hours the previous night.

[johneeo]

 

I'm not sure why so many people seem to assume that CBP is incapable of recognizing exigent circumstances and providing special handling as necessary.

 

HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!:rolleyes: