cruisetrail Posted April 16, 2013 #1 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Looking at the Quantum of the Seas renderings... Wow! A Ship of the Seas has been squeezed into a modified Celebrity hull :eek: - crammed, narrow bodied. Where is Royal Caribbean open space? Where is Royal Caribbean connection to the sea? Where is Royal Caribbean promenade deck? Where is Royal Caribbean observation deck? Where is Royal Caribbean jogging track? (not something painted on the floor between loungers) Where is Royal Caribbean axial planning? Where is... Where is Royal Caribbean? A nice crane with a flying capsule though. Reasons for this strange hybrid? Economy - RCI did not take a risk of building a really new ship? Shipyard limitations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momzcruzing Posted April 16, 2013 #2 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I just watched the video and I'm a bit underwhelmed. I guess now there will be more room for me on my beloved Radiance Class ships. All that glass looking out to the ocean.... heaven!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare eroller Posted April 16, 2013 #3 Share Posted April 16, 2013 FYI the QotS is listed at a greater width than both FREEDOM OF THE SEAS and CELEBRITY SOLSTICE. Quantum = 135 ft Freedom = 126.6 ft Solstice = 121 ft In addition Quantum is over 100 ft longer than Solstice (1142 ft compared with 1033 ft). I'm not denying that there are some traits from the Solstice Class (which I love BTW), but this is a completely new design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcell Posted April 16, 2013 #4 Share Posted April 16, 2013 pole seems really useless...i wonder how many people it can fit at one time (side note - would be a cool place to get married though) other "innovations" - not really interested... water slides - out door jungle gym, etc...would be better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiselife4me Posted April 16, 2013 #5 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Ooh I hadn't even thought of weddings. Darn right! I would live to go up in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisetrail Posted April 16, 2013 Author #6 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Extra things on top require modifications to make the ship stable. QOS may be little longer or wider (at the water line!) but the superstructure is narrow and tall. I know those numbers but they should not distract anyone from the essence of the case - this is not a Royal Caribbean ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisetrail Posted April 17, 2013 Author #7 Share Posted April 17, 2013 FYI the QotS is listed at a greater width than both FREEDOM OF THE SEAS and CELEBRITY SOLSTICE. Quantum = 135 ft Freedom = 126.6 ft Solstice = 121 ft In addition Quantum is over 100 ft longer than Solstice (1142 ft compared with 1033 ft). I'm not denying that there are some traits from the Solstice Class (which I love BTW), but this is a completely new design. Extra things on top require modifications to make the ship stable. QOS may be little longer or wider (at the water line!) but the superstructure is narrow and tall. I know those numbers but they should not distract anyone from the essence of the case - this is not a Royal Caribbean ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare eroller Posted April 17, 2013 #8 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Extra things on top require modifications to make the ship stable.QOS may be little longer or wider (at the water line!) but the superstructure is narrow and tall. I know those numbers but they should not distract anyone from the essence of the case - this is not a Royal Caribbean ship. I don't agree. I think it's 100% a Royal Caribbean ship. Did you say the same thing about the Radiance Class? After all Celebrity's Millennium and RCI's Radiance Class share many of the same attributes (hull similarities, size, propulsion, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollon Posted April 17, 2013 #9 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I think the majority will like the new ship, it's just really different, but when I first heard about the Oasis class ship I thought to myself, I have no interest in going on that ship, well, then our mind changed and went on the Allure and loved it. I think like people say, do it once (or twice) to see what it is all about and then go on the freedom/voyager/radiance or whatever you want :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted April 17, 2013 #10 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I just watched the video and I'm a bit underwhelmed. I guess now there will be more room for me on my beloved Radiance Class ships. All that glass looking out to the ocean.... heaven!! You've gotten that right..I'm with you ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthGrady Posted April 17, 2013 #11 Share Posted April 17, 2013 You see this happen with the big conglomerates, lots of interconnected development. It's not necessarily a bad thing. The Celebrity Solstice Class gets rave reviews. So if there's a bit of that DNA in the Quantum Class it could be great for RCI. When Carnival took over one of their smaller lines (HAL I think) they inherited what would become the Spirit Class. In my opinion they are the nicest and best designed CCL ships in the fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlesteelo Posted April 17, 2013 #12 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Looking at the Quantum of the Seas renderings...Wow! A Ship of the Seas has been squeezed into a modified Celebrity hull :eek: - crammed, narrow bodied. Are you sure of that? Do you work for Meyer Werft? Just because a ship has slight similarities (of which you are scraping the barrel to find any between this and the solstice class) doesn't mean it is the same design. Where is Royal Caribbean open space? If you are referring to open spaces internally, such as the Royal Promenade, they haven't shown it yet. It is obvious there is something similar on the deck plans. Wait and see. Where is Royal Caribbean connection to the sea? I don't understand. There are plenty of areas you can see the sea from. The Two70 lounge has brilliant views of the ocean, and as usual you have all the open deck space up top. If you are referring to the lifeboats being on the same level as the promenade deck blocking a view, that is unavoidable. It is now a requirement that the lifeboats are like that. You can't have the boats embedded in the ship anymore like they used to be. Where is Royal Caribbean promenade deck? See above Where is Royal Caribbean observation deck? I'm guessing you are referring to the helipad? We still don't know whether that is accessible or not. Where is Royal Caribbean jogging track? (not something painted on the floor between loungers) All of Royal Caribbean's ships excluding the Oasis Class have the jogging track in between the loungers, so I don't know what your complaint is here. Where is Royal Caribbean axial planning? Where is... Where is Royal Caribbean? A nice crane with a flying capsule though. Reasons for this strange hybrid? Economy - RCI did not take a risk of building a really new ship? Shipyard limitations? The ship seems very impressive to me. There are some things I dislike, the pod thing being one. That doesn't seem much like Royal Caribbean, and doesn't have a place on a ship. People moan about not having a 'connection to the sea', but what does that even mean? From what we can see, there is a huge lounge with panoramic ocean views, the dining room appears to have huge glass walls at the back, and there are loads of balcony cabins. Plenty of space to 'connect' with the sea. Would you rather they threw you in the ocean every now and again just to remind you that you are at sea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler80 Posted April 17, 2013 #13 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I see the Celebrity Solstice similarities. The hull and interior design looks similar to what I've seen on Solstice class ships. I cannot believe that the classic Studio B and the Royal Promenade are missing. But I will sail this class of ship someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisetrail Posted April 17, 2013 Author #14 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I think the majority will like the new ship, it's just really different, but when I first heard about the Oasis class ship I thought to myself, I have no interest in going on that ship, well, then our mind changed and went on the Allure and loved it. I think like people say, do it once (or twice) to see what it is all about and then go on the freedom/voyager/radiance or whatever you want :) I might agree with you - "the majority will like the ship". But this statement adds no value. The majority like the Carnival Ecstasy - so what? :) it's just really different Yes, it is! The only question is "different from what?" To be different is not enough for a new ship. It must be better. The history of RCI ships is a history of constant improvements and sophistication. Every new class of ships retained the best features of the previous class and introduced something new, more advanced, more interesting. This is not the case with the QOS. RCI and Celebrity have different philosophy. RCI ships are designed like true cruise ships full of space and energy. Solstice ships are designed like floating hotels. An attempt to superimpose RCI cruise ship over a Solstice-like floating hotel is very unnatural. The major design flaw of the Solstice class is lack of open space. It looks like the QOS is going to inherit this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommabean Posted April 17, 2013 #15 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I just watched the video and I'm a bit underwhelmed. I guess now there will be more room for me on my beloved Radiance Class ships. All that glass looking out to the ocean.... heaven!! Have you gone on a refurbed Vision class yet? They are very similar to Radiance class with lots of glass and a similar layout. You sort of get used to the WJ being at the front. The gym is horrible though but many people don't care about that. The bad little gyms should have been addressed in the revitalization program in my opinion. Gina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommabean Posted April 17, 2013 #16 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I don't agree. I think it's 100% a Royal Caribbean ship. Did you say the same thing about the Radiance Class? After all Celebrity's Millennium and RCI's Radiance Class share many of the same attributes (hull similarities, size, propulsion, etc). I did go on Celebrity Infinity and wondered how they could ruin a perfect hull. I hated the layout. There was no tall centrum. You can't walk to the helecopter pad. The weird little curtained compartments in the solarium. The list went on for me. I just didn't like it at all even though I knew it was a very similar ship - on the outside. And I haven't been back to Celebrity. Gina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommabean Posted April 17, 2013 #17 Share Posted April 17, 2013 pole seems really useless...i wonder how many people it can fit at one time (side note - would be a cool place to get married though) other "innovations" - not really interested... water slides - out door jungle gym, etc...would be better... For an almost private wedding. VERY small. Gina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNV-IT!!! Posted April 17, 2013 #18 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I do agree it looks 110% un Rccl. I see X all the way. Although I would like it more if the stupid arm wasn't on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisetrail Posted April 17, 2013 Author #19 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Originally Posted by cruisetrail Looking at the Quantum of the Seas renderings... Wow! A Ship of the Seas has been squeezed into a modified Celebrity hull :eek: - crammed, narrow bodied. Are you sure of that? Do you work for Meyer Werft? Just because a ship has slight similarities (of which you are scraping the barrel to find any between this and the solstice class) doesn't mean it is the same design. Please take a closer look. "Similarities" are not slight. Where is Royal Caribbean open space? If you are referring to open spaces internally, such as the Royal Promenade, they haven't shown it yet. It is obvious there is something similar on the deck plans. Wait and see. Open space is open space - promenade decks, pool decks, observation decks... Where is Royal Caribbean connection to the sea? I don't understand. There are plenty of areas you can see the sea from. The Two70 lounge has brilliant views of the ocean, and as usual you have all the open deck space up top. If you are referring to the lifeboats being on the same level as the promenade deck blocking a view, that is unavoidable. It is now a requirement that the lifeboats are like that. You can't have the boats embedded in the ship anymore like they used to be. Please refer to the NCL Breakaway design. Everything is possible if you have a will. Where is Royal Caribbean promenade deck? See above See above Where is Royal Caribbean observation deck? I'm guessing you are referring to the helipad? We still don't know whether that is accessible or not. Observation deck on a cruise ship: Where is Royal Caribbean jogging track? (not something painted on the floor between loungers) All of Royal Caribbean's ships excluding the Oasis Class have the jogging track in between the loungers, so I don't know what your complaint is here. RCI ships have beautiful wrap-around promenade deck that serves for all purposes. Where is Royal Caribbean axial planning? Where is it? Where is Royal Caribbean? A nice crane with a flying capsule though. Reasons for this strange hybrid? Economy - RCI did not take a risk of building a really new ship? Shipyard limitations? Answers added. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachChik Posted April 17, 2013 #20 Share Posted April 17, 2013 The ship seems very impressive to me. There are some things I dislike, the pod thing being one. That doesn't seem much like Royal Caribbean, and doesn't have a place on a ship. People moan about not having a 'connection to the sea', but what does that even mean? From what we can see, there is a huge lounge with panoramic ocean views, the dining room appears to have huge glass walls at the back, and there are loads of balcony cabins. Plenty of space to 'connect' with the sea. Would you rather they threw you in the ocean every now and again just to remind you that you are at sea? Lol! Love that last line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneputt18 Posted April 17, 2013 #21 Share Posted April 17, 2013 If you listened to the online video there are 2-3 more reveals coming in the future, they didn't tell all today. I think there will be a two level promenade. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommabean Posted April 17, 2013 #22 Share Posted April 17, 2013 It would be nice to know where the dining room really is. If Two70 is in that windowed area of decks 5 and 6 aft, where in the exterior picture of the model are the windows for the dining room? Usually they are very obvious from the outside. I'm just not seeing it. Gina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Lomas Posted April 17, 2013 #23 Share Posted April 17, 2013 pole seems really useless...i wonder how many people it can fit at one time (side note - would be a cool place to get married though) Wonder if it will get its own version of the "mile high club" like on airplanes?;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOLA3cruisers Posted April 17, 2013 #24 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I am looking forward to being on this beautiful ship! Lots of new & fun stuff to do! I believe I will try it out before I write something negative...come on people! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisetrail Posted April 17, 2013 Author #25 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Lol! Love that last line. (connection to the sea) Connection to the sea (RCI Oasis Class): Connection to the... restaurant (Celebrity Solstice Class): Hope this helps. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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