Military Mess Dress?

[mom says]

He also wore a Mounties hat.

 

If you mean the ceremonial brown stetson, I hope his CO didn't find out about that . It's not part of their mess dress.

 

DH only wore his Air Force mess dress on one cruise, and that was before he retired. It was on QM2, and there were quite a few officers from various countries who were wearing theirs as well. Of course, the gentlemen with the kilts garnered the most admiration.

 

DH only wears his mess kit to formal mess dinners now that he has retired.

[Kamloops50]

If you mean the ceremonial brown stetson, I hope his CO didn't find out about that . It's not part of their mess dress.

 

DH only wore his Air Force mess dress on one cruise, and that was before he retired. It was on QM2, and there were quite a few officers from various countries who were wearing theirs as well. Of course, the gentlemen with the kilts garnered the most admiration.

 

DH only wears his mess kit to formal mess dinners now that he has retired.

 

They don’t wear a Stetson. It looks like hat marine Corp used to wear around WW2.

[mom says]

They don’t wear a Stetson. It looks like hat marine Corp used to wear around WW2.

The traditional brown hat that everyone associates with the Mounties (brown hare felt)) is a Stetson. Google it.

[chengkp75]

They don’t wear a Stetson. It looks like hat marine Corp used to wear around WW2.

 

Yes, the "Campaign Hat" worn by US Army in WW1, and still worn by USMC Drill Instructors, is similar to the "4 dent" RCMP "Mountie Hat", all of which were made by Stetson, which is a brand, not a style.

[Velvetwater]

Depends where you are cruising I suppose.

 

I only saw 2 uniforms on our Panama Canal cruise.

 

I have never seen any on our European ones as I don't think its done much here in Europe unless its wedding with lots of personnel or a specialised military gala. I think its considered a little too much for a relaxing cruise maybe?

[ppd652]

You are answering a thread that is almost five YEARS old!

You are too.

[ppd652]

Depends where you are cruising I suppose.

 

I only saw 2 uniforms on our Panama Canal cruise.

 

I have never seen any on our European ones as I don't think its done much here in Europe unless its wedding with lots of personnel or a specialised military gala. I think its considered a little too much for a relaxing cruise maybe?

It is not appropriate for wear in a foreign country, but if you are in international waters it is ok in my opinion. As far as appropriate that is the subject of this thread so thank you.

[Velvetwater]

It is not appropriate for wear in a foreign country, but if you are in international waters it is ok in my opinion. As far as appropriate that is the subject of this thread so thank you.

 

I understand what you are saying but it is quite rare for military uniforms to be worn in European waters even if you are a European and it is rare for someone to turn up in their own country to a standard event in military dress too. The general feeling of the military and its representation is different over here.

 

Therefore if you are sailing on a Med cruise with a majority of Europeans (as this can happen on all lines) your fellow cruisers reactions may be different to when sailing in the Caribbean.

[chengkp75]

While you may feel that you can "admirably represent" the Army, you are showing disrespect for the institution by knowingly violating their regulations. If you want to show your service, and get folks to talk about current service personnel, wear your miniature medals, as is allowed by service regulations.

[Kamloops50]

My friends who served in the Canadian milary and RCMP were encourage to wear dress uniforms at all formal dinners.

[chengkp75]

From www.forces.gc.ca:

 

Question

 

Can I wear my uniform after retiring/releasing from the Canadian Forces?

Answer

 

Current regulations regarding the wear of uniforms by retired personnel emanate from Queen’s Regulations and Orders (QR&O), in particular QR&O 17.06 which states: A former member of the Regular Force or Reserve Force, who was released for a reason other than misconduct, may wear a uniform:(a) with the permission of an officer commanding a command or his designated authority and such other officers as may be designated by the Chief of Defence Staff, when attending a military entertainment or ceremony at which the wearing of uniform is appropriate; and

 

(b) on other occasions with the permission of the Chief of the Defence Staff.

These instructions are expanded upon in the 'Canadian Forces Dress Instructions Manual(AAD-265-000-AG-001)', which states: Commanders of commands may grant limited, revocable authority for former members and civilians to wear CF uniforms and clothing items in public displays and performances, and special events, if they are satisfied that no harm to the CF reputation will result. In particular: by custom, veterans and other ex-service members may wear undress caps (e.g., berets, wedge caps), with badges, on remembrance and memorial occasions, subject to agreement of the branch/regiment concerned.

 

Furthermore, all depending how long ago you have retired, you should have received a copy of the handbook entitled "Moving On" and paragraph 14.2 states all of the above.

 

The more common (and recommended) practice is for former CF personnel to wear proudly their medals, with appropriate civilian attire in accordance with the Governor General aide memoire entitled Wearing of orders, decorations and medalswith undress cap (if appropriate).

So, this appears to be very similar to US service regulations where the wearing of a uniform by a retired or former service person is appropriate only when the person was invited based on their service. The same site states that wearing mess dress is regulated by the same regulations.

[GUT2407]

I wouldn’t say I’ve seen a lot, but have seen some (full military dress or suit, tux, with minis).