TEXASMUNK Posted November 17, 2013 #1 Share Posted November 17, 2013 June 4, 1981 Pricing on the SS NORWAY. Inside: $810 per person outside $970 per person (There were no balconies back then) plus port taxes. And for the guy who posts that I am making up these prices, I am copying them directly from the NCL Brochure from 1981. So, 32 years ago, the cost of a 7 day cruise was approx. $310 per person lower than many Carnival cruises today. Just keep that in mind the next time you read a thread about how high prices have gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arush5268d Posted November 17, 2013 #2 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Before you get too proud of yourself, adjust those numbers for inflation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arush5268d Posted November 17, 2013 #3 Share Posted November 17, 2013 June 4, 1981 Pricing on the SS NORWAY. Inside: $810 per person outside $970 per person (There were no balconies back then) plus port taxes. And for the guy who posts that I am making up these prices, I am copying them directly from the NCL Brochure from 1981. So, 32 years ago, the cost of a 7 day cruise was approx. $310 per person lower than many Carnival cruises today. Just keep that in mind the next time you read a thread about how high prices have gone. A quick check shows that, with inflation, an item that cost $1 USD in 1984 would cost $1.98 in 2006. The dates you are bringing up are even further apart than that. Basically, Inside on Norway would have been around $2,000 USD today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arush5268d Posted November 17, 2013 #4 Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) My rough numbers were bothering me. http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl Here is some firm numbers: $810 in 1980 is the same as $2,301.71 today. (SS Norway Inside) $970 in 1980 is the same as $2,756.37 today. (SS Norway Outside) /case solved /continue complaints about Carnival 'nickle and diming' /end thread Edited November 17, 2013 by arush5268d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jks336 Posted November 18, 2013 #5 Share Posted November 18, 2013 My rough numbers were bothering me. http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl Here is some firm numbers: $810 in 1980 is the same as $2,301.71 today. (SS Norway Inside) $970 in 1980 is the same as $2,756.37 today. (SS Norway Outside) /case solved /continue complaints about Carnival 'nickle and diming' /end thread still a great type of vacation :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibcnusoon Posted November 18, 2013 #6 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I'm curious, where did the Norway sail out of and what were her port stops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo mom Posted November 18, 2013 #7 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I sailed the Norway in 1983 and 1985 out of Miami. Don't remember the ports, but we sure had fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtap23 Posted November 18, 2013 #8 Share Posted November 18, 2013 The Norway is one of my all time favorite ships. We sailed her twice out of Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog1958 Posted November 18, 2013 #9 Share Posted November 18, 2013 cruises are much cheaper today then 30 years ago, however, there are tradeoffs with the difference in price. Dining use to be sensational kind of like the steakhouses now that you have to pay for. Instead dining now is more like applebees. Drinks were around a 1.00 each and you had different parties during the week where they were free and there use to be happy hours with munchies... The entertainment was top notch name entertainers back then also.. I am not saying there is anything wrong with these tradeoffs, as more people can afford to cruise today then 30 years ago, but there are differences in the experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miataman19 Posted November 18, 2013 #10 Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) I sailed the Norway in 1983 and 1985 out of Miami. Don't remember the ports, but we sure had fun. Sailed on her twice in 83 and twice in 84.. Ports of Call: Great Stirrup Cay, Bahamas; Charlotte Amalie, St Thomas; Philipsburg, St Maarten; The Norway is one of my all time favorite ships. We sailed her twice out of Miami. My favorite ship of all time, sailed on her 13 times.....:D. Price difference if you figure in inflation, a little cheaper today. Depends on the line also. Edited November 18, 2013 by miataman19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfadj Posted November 18, 2013 #11 Share Posted November 18, 2013 A quick check shows that, with inflation, an item that cost $1 USD in 1984 would cost $1.98 in 2006. The dates you are bringing up are even further apart than that. Basically, Inside on Norway would have been around $2,000 USD today. Dollar today worth a lot less than the number you put out there. Interesting topic though. Back than cruise was extreme luxury wit hvery fancy dining and would think entertainers would be much more well known than what we get today. Bottom line though is we can afford to cruise 3x per year now and would barely be able to do it once per year back than. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aplmac Posted November 18, 2013 #12 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Here are some firm numbers: $810 in 1980 is the same as $2,301.71 today. (SS Norway Inside) $970 in 1980 is the same as $2,756.37 today. (SS Norway Outside) /case solved /continue complaints about Carnival 'nickle and diming' /end thread You gotta love the economic reality! ;) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miataman19 Posted November 18, 2013 #13 Share Posted November 18, 2013 You gotta love the economic reality! ;) . DAMN!!!! :eek: I spent that much money back then? 13 sailings on Norway thats about $35000 in todays $$$ WOW!! (Glad my DW takes care of the finances now :)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXASMUNK Posted November 18, 2013 Author #14 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Was very simple since the ship was the actual destination.. Depart Miami... Sunday Mon/Tues at Sea Wed ST Thomas Thurs/Fri At sea Sat Bahamas Out Island Another small note, SS Norway used two "revived" WWII landing Craft as their own tenders that they carried up at the bow of the ship. Interesting how NCL created the ship as the destination concept back then and every main stream cruise line is doing the same thing today!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfadj Posted November 18, 2013 #15 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Was very simple since the ship was the actual destination..Depart Miami... Sunday Mon/Tues at Sea Wed ST Thomas Thurs/Fri At sea Sat Bahamas Out Island Another small note, SS Norway used two "revived" WWII landing Craft as their own tenders that they carried up at the bow of the ship. Interesting how NCL created the ship as the destination concept back then and every main stream cruise line is doing the same thing today!!!! After seeing the same ports over and over the cruise is about the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted November 18, 2013 #16 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Also consider the cost of fuel and emissions control today! Fuel is more than 5X what it was 30 years ago, and the ships are larger and larger and have to burn fuel more cleanly than ever, a major challenge and very, very expensive. I recall reading an article when the Carnival Holiday was put into service and they were very proud that with the onboard refining system they could buy cheap fuel in South America and basically run it off of industrial tar. What are "emissions?" :D It's incredible you can take these kind of trips for the cost; but the race to zero has its costs; Carnival is now the low cost carrier; there are no longer smaller lines; they've all be bought up or can't operate successfully at the lower end of the market, they are now luxury niche lines because that's all that can sustain the costs without mass bookings like CCL, RCI, NCL, and some other big guys (mostly under the CCL parent umbrella anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfadj Posted November 18, 2013 #17 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Also consider the cost of fuel and emissions control today! Fuel is more than 5X what it was 30 years ago, and the ships are larger and larger and have to burn fuel more cleanly than ever, a major challenge and very, very expensive. I recall reading an article when the Carnival Holiday was put into service and they were very proud that with the onboard refining system they could buy cheap fuel in South America and basically run it off of industrial tar. What are "emissions?" :D It's incredible you can take these kind of trips for the cost; but the race to zero has its costs; Carnival is now the low cost carrier; there are no longer smaller lines; they've all be bought up or can't operate successfully at the lower end of the market, they are now luxury niche lines because that's all that can sustain the costs without mass bookings like CCL, RCI, NCL, and some other big guys (mostly under the CCL parent umbrella anyway). The economics of cruising have drastically changed over the past 50 years. They have made the running of the cruise and controlling costs into a science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arush5268d Posted November 18, 2013 #18 Share Posted November 18, 2013 The economics of cruising have drastically changed over the past 50 years. They have made the running of the cruise and controlling costs into a science. The purpose of a cruise has changed as well. I'm not sure if the chicken or the egg came first in this case. 50 years ago cruising was a form of transportation and served a utilitarian purpose. Today a cruise ship, in most cases, is a destination of a vacation that just happens to make a few stops so people can go ashore for a few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pspercy Posted November 18, 2013 #19 Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) In her glory days, SS France arriving in New York. Edited November 18, 2013 by pspercy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edl868 Posted November 18, 2013 #20 Share Posted November 18, 2013 My first 4 cruises were on that ship...the first 3 were Jazz cruises (inside cabins), and the 4th was my honeymoon (splurged for one of the suites with the wraparound balconies). Miss that ship greatly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nisky18 Posted November 18, 2013 #21 Share Posted November 18, 2013 In June 1979 my then husband and I cruised on the Norway for $1,500 each ($3, 000) which allegedly included air fare from Albany, NY to FLA. We were upgraded from standard oceanview to a mini suite at no additional cost. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsTabbyKats Posted November 18, 2013 #22 Share Posted November 18, 2013 In June 1979 my then husband and I cruised on the Norway for $1,500 each ($3, 000) which allegedly included air fare from Albany, NY to FLA. We were upgraded from standard oceanview to a mini suite at no additional cost. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk I was cruising back then too. At that time cruising was for "the affluent". Think in terms of if everyone sailed on Cunard today. Thanks to the mass market lines, cruises are available to just about everyone. I have to laugh when people have "the expectations of elegance" and complain about cut backs and going downhill. These people couldn't have afforded a cruise "in the old days". Personally, although I can afford a lot more than I could 25 years ago....I prefer the "come as you are" and "eat what you want when you want" atmosphere. (I was looking for Mr Right back then....had to look "hot" 24/7. :)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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