Just got Back from Carnival... Is Disney worth it?

[Susiecruisey]

The spilt bath and a half concept that DCL introduced way back in '98 seems to be a hit for those with kids.

 

I wonder why other cruise lines haven't adopted the same or similar layout on other ships for family friendly staterooms? Presumably DCL cannot have patented it?!!

 

I know NCL screwed up with a weird sink in the bedroom/stateroom and exposed bathroom thing, but if parents with kids really love it, why hasn't any other cruise line adopted the same facility?

 

ex techie

 

Carnival does have a few ships with the double bathroom and it is very nice I have been in one for a cruise.

[sara mom]

We have done 3 cruise lines....Carnival before kids and Royal and Disney with kids. I love both Disney and Royal. On the Fantasy, I loved playing in Andy's Room, in the kids club when they had open houses. I don't have a favorite because I like them both for their own reasons. The decor( mainly the colors) on Carnival hurt my eyes, but have not had that on the other 2 lines.

[lukeduke07]

Im over here on the DCL board trying to find out why people pay three times as much for Disney Cruise. No one has convinced me yet. My wife and I like Carnival and my kids absolutely LOVE carnival. I guess Ill keep reading.

[ducklite]

If you are happy with Carnival and adverse to paying a premium for what DCL delivers, then stick with Carnival. There are some things that you can't really assign a dollar value to. Some people crave those difficult to place a value on items and have no problem paying for them, while others will only pay for that they can quantify. To each their own, which is why there are many different types of cruises and price points.

 

 

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[Shmoo here]

Im over here on the DCL board trying to find out why people pay three times as much for Disney Cruise. No one has convinced me yet. My wife and I like Carnival and my kids absolutely LOVE carnival. I guess Ill keep reading.

 

The short answer is "because it's Disney". Unless you take a DCL cruise, and experience it yourself, it would be impossible to convince you with us just telling you why we like it.

 

If you're happy with the cruises you take (regardless of cruiseline), go for it.

[vacation_junkie]

If you are happy with Carnival and adverse to paying a premium for what DCL delivers, then stick with Carnival. There are some things that you can't really assign a dollar value to. Some people crave those difficult to place a value on items and have no problem paying for them, while others will only pay for that they can quantify. To each their own, which is why there are many different types of cruises and price points.

 

 

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We are a family that cruises based on what fits our family. We do not travel based on what the trip will cost.

We are blessed to have professions that provide a substantial income.

 

We have sailed many lines with very different demographics. Each line is different. Each cruise is different. You can't form an opinion based on 1 cruise with a certain line as well.

 

Our Favourite line is Carnival. And again, its not because its only what we can afford. The activities , ship Amenities and so forth suit our family.

 

As you can see we are on a Disney Cruise next month. So it's not like I am knocking DCL.

 

I think it also comes down to a level of comfort for some people. If they have had a great experience with another line they are reluctant to change and pay more for the fear of a lesser experience.

 

Again to each their own. What matters to us on our sailings may not mater to the next person.

[ducklite]

We are a family that cruises based on what fits our family. We do not travel based on what the trip will cost.

 

We are blessed to have professions that provide a substantial income.

 

 

 

We have sailed many lines with very different demographics. Each line is different. Each cruise is different. You can't form an opinion based on 1 cruise with a certain line as well.

 

 

 

Our Favourite line is Carnival. And again, its not because its only what we can afford. The activities , ship Amenities and so forth suit our family.

 

 

 

As you can see we are on a Disney Cruise next month. So it's not like I am knocking DCL.

 

 

 

I think it also comes down to a level of comfort for some people. If they have had a great experience with another line they are reluctant to change and pay more for the fear of a lesser experience.

 

 

 

Again to each their own. What matters to us on our sailings may not mater to the next person.

 

 

I agree that often people are afraid to change. What cracks me up are the people who do nothing but complain about the line they cruise on, but then return to them over and over. Frankly my vacation time is worth far too much to me to waste it on giving something another try if I didn't like it the first time.

 

I also think that some lines are better for some itineraries and situations than others.

 

While I'm sure Carnival is perfect for many, it is not for me. I don't like big ships, "Vegas-y" decor, and they definitely lack some amenities I want out of my vacation. That said, DCL is also no longer for me at this point in my life. If I were taking nieces and nephews along, absolutely, they would be the only choice. But with just my husband and I these days! we want small luxury ships. Carnival definitely doesn't fit into either of those adjectives. Disney isn't small or luxury but could be considered premium--particularly in the concierge suites.

 

 

 

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[vacation_junkie]

I agree that often people are afraid to change. What cracks me up are the people who do nothing but complain about the line they cruise on, but then return to them over and over. Frankly my vacation time is worth far too much to me to waste it on giving something another try if I didn't like it the first time.

 

I also think that some lines are better for some itineraries and situations than others.

 

While I'm sure Carnival is perfect for many, it is not for me. I don't like big ships, "Vegas-y" decor, and they definitely lack some amenities I want out of my vacation. That said, DCL is also no longer for me at this point in my life. If I were taking nieces and nephews along, absolutely, they would be the only choice. But with just my husband and I these days! we want small luxury ships. Carnival definitely doesn't fit into either of those adjectives. Disney isn't small or luxury but could be considered premium--particularly in the concierge suites.

 

 

 

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Well said!

 

Disney doesn't really fit our family anymore.

Our DS is 13.

There's no Casino for hubby, No large sports Zone but this Cruise is for Me. Mom wants a last DCL visit before DS hits highschool. He won't think its cool to tell his friends he's going on a Disney Cruise next year :D

 

They can suck it up while I enjoy this one. I justified it by booking the Carnival one they wanted on the same day as I booked this one!

 

For us 4 nights is long enough on a DCL sailing.

but 8 doesn't near seem enough on a Carnival Ship.

 

The more you cruise the more your wants and needs change!

People also need to form their own opinion on a Cruise Line / Ship.

 

The biggest thing is that people need to be thankful that they can even be in the position to have a "Cruise Dilemma ". There are alot of people out who.. have never and will never be able to enjoy a vacation in their lifetime.

Edited December 18, 2013 by vacation_junkie

[sippican]

 

For us 4 nights is long enough on a DCL sailing.

but 8 doesn't near seem enough on a Carnival Ship.

 

The more you cruise the more your wants and needs change!

People also need to form their own opinion on a Cruise Line / Ship.

 

We are at the "grandparent" stage and just can't get enough Disney, with or without the young ones.

We are not "loyal" to any particular cruise line, but having given Carnival two tries on their older ships, we've pretty much written it off. Three nights on the Imagination, were three nights too long, lol!

You are absolutely correct in that everyone needs to form their own opinion.

 

Some on this thread are hoping others might "convince" them to sail Disney. I'd advise everyone to read the cruise member reviews (with a grain of salt of course). They are a wealth of information,

[vacation_junkie]

 

Some on this thread are hoping others might "convince" them to sail Disney. I'd advise everyone to read the cruise member reviews (with a grain of salt of course). They are a wealth of information,

 

I agree. People are more prone to writing a negative review over a positive one!

[TwinPrincessMermaids]

I think that's a pretty unfair statement to make, that people make negative reviews vs positive ones. I have yrs of history with CCL and I used to tell everyone that they were as good as all my RCCLs, food was even better, they were a great value and lots of fun. But my last two, the product has gone down really significantly, and I'm not comparing that to Disney (cuz I had never been on a Disney until I had already decided that I wasn't going to go on anymore cruises after the Carnival Dream this year. I thought I was done cruising altogether actually, that's how disappointed I was.) I was comparing Carnival to Carnival. This yr was a terrible yr for CCL, starting with the Triumph and we sailed a few weeks later. Our Dream was sooo badly serviced, it was like the buffet in the MDR. We got up and poured our own coffee and beverages, there just is no one around, they are understaffed and overworked and its Carnival Corp's fault for cutting and cutting back. It was also my most expensive CCL.

 

Here are things I hate about Carnival:

-They deliberately funnel people through a smokey casino promenade. They design these areas to be really narrow, but they are the thorough fare to get from one side of the ship to the other. They place photographers the entire way that heckle you "let me take you picture!" while you are just trying to get to dinner on time. They plan trivia and karaoke immediately next to the casino and live music. Clearly they are trying to get traffic into the casino. They are not the only line that does this, but DCL not having one is a HUGE plus. I enjoyed my walks across the ship on DCL. On CCL, sometimes, I would go down to Deck 2 and dodge housekeeping carts or luggage, but at least I wouldn't have to go through the casino.

 

-They have really high pressure sales. They tell you to get to the theater 30 min before the show for seats, but when you do, they start selling bingo cards while everyone waits and there is a bingo game. This is an obvious and desperate sales tactic that worked as many people around me bought cards cuz they were bored. I would have liked to leave (since I don't participate in Bingo) but if I did, I would be giving up my seat. Captive audience, that's just cheap. DCL has bingo, but you have to go to it if you want to play, its not forced on the mainstage audience.

 

-Same goes for high pressure drink sales. We couldn't hardly get our water filled by our waters in the MDR, but the bar guy with the tray of shots came around plenty.

 

-I am no longer entertained by crowded bean bag tosses, vulgar hairy chest or sexy man contests, I've seen some disgusting things done with bananas for deck parties and broadcast for the world to see on the gigantic deck movie screen in front of families and everyone. I don't need to see vegas G-string style entertainment on the main stage, that is so 80s-90s cruise. I LOVED Disney's dancers and singers, even if some of the main plots were juvenile. The talent was REALLY BIG, and the actors were some of the funniest live actors I have ever seen. Really hard to pull off. Those shows were worth $50 on land. Can you ever say that about Carnival? I mean really? I want my stage shows to be PG rated, and not feature dancers mounted on a mechanical bull- nuff said.

 

-I always enjoyed the food on CCL but its getting a bit old, but since everything changes every day this year, that won't be the case anymore. Our problem was the service didn't get it to us because they were overwelmed. It is more banquet style and DCL is more interesting and artistically presented. I am deadset against the family style dining. That sounds like a food sensitivity nightmare, giving everyone the same bowl to eat out of with limited options. DCL wasn't perfect, but some of it was really stellar. Our servers were literally the best we have ever had. We have had good service on the Holiday & Triumph but only since 2011, and not since CCL went to terrible 3 person disorganized teams that serve a huge number of tables and can't keep up.

 

-On the Conquest, they let us play volleyball and gave us a net and a ball, and it was a blast! This year on the Dream, they made us 25+ adult aged have CM supervision...? And wait until it was scheduled on the worst sea day of weather we had. Then they shut us down because the steak house opened 20 min later immediately below us (poor design there to put a basketball court on top of it). Just not very fun. With DC, we wanted to clone ourselves 3 times over. We never did make it to the 3D movie theater, there are so many things we need to do on this next one. The entertainment offerings and schedule as sooooo crazy busy, even on the private island, that we would have to turn down several choices. On CCL, there just aren't that many choices.... its cut back to the point where you basically entertain yourself. We had 4 comedians on our Conquest, we had two for 2 days on the Dream.

 

CCL doesn't cut it for me anymore. Our room steward, the only time we talked to him the entire week, he asked us for more tips (we always leave autotips on). So while I pay more to go on DCl, the staff at least to appears to be friendlier and more welcoming and I'm hoping they get taken care of, and just to be sure, because they all did a superior job that DCL, they all got extra tips. You dont have to ask for tips when your work shows it, at least not to us. The CCL one got his normal tips and not much more. The DCL got her normal tips plus more. Its just better business. I don't want to feel like I'm on an informercial for vacation.

 

Even my husband, who LOVES all cruises and wasn't that disappointed with CCL this yr as I was, even he said we don't have to go on anymore CCLs. He's a pretty cheap frugal kinda guy but he never said we over paid with Disney. He let us open all the new Disney card accts, helps us get our points up, let me open my own, let us book next yr's with the 10% off coupon we got, and now 18 in our group is going.

 

Not to mention that we sailed about 2-3 weeks after the Triumph disaster, and then our same ship broke down a week and a half after we got off of it. That was TOO close for comfort. I was already unhappy with CCL from the pure experience, and the crowds, and the lines (even for self serve icecream? Or just to get coffee in the buffet?) and then to know that my ship's generator's may have gone out on me had it been a week different. After all the ribbing at work, I would have never lived that down. Plus my dad knew Mom would never set foot on a carnival ship after those two had problems, so that's how we ended up on our family first and only so far Disney cruise: Disney has the reputation for reliability. Mom never batted an eye when she set foot on their ship...

Edited December 19, 2013 by TwinPrincessMermaids

[vacation_junkie]

I think that's a pretty unfair statement to make, that people make negative reviews vs positive ones. I have yrs of history with CCL and I used to tell everyone that they were as good as all my RCCLs, food was even better, they were a great value and lots of fun. But my last two, the product has gone down really significantly, and I'm not comparing that to Disney (cuz I had never been on a Disney until I had already decided that I wasn't going to go on anymore cruises after the Carnival Dream this year. I thought I was done cruising altogether actually, that's how disappointed I was.) I was comparing Carnival to Carnival. This yr was a terrible yr for CCL, starting with the Triumph and we sailed a few weeks later. Our Dream was sooo badly serviced, it was like the buffet in the MDR. We got up and poured our own coffee and beverages, there just is no one around, they are understaffed and overworked and its Carnival Corp's fault for cutting and cutting back. It was also my most expensive CCL.

 

Here are things I hate about Carnival:

-They deliberately funnel people through a smokey casino promenade. They design these areas to be really narrow, but they are the thorough fare to get from one side of the ship to the other. They place photographers the entire way that heckle you "let me take you picture!" while you are just trying to get to dinner on time. They plan trivia and karaoke immediately next to the casino and live music. Clearly they are trying to get traffic into the casino. They are not the only line that does this, but DCL not having one is a HUGE plus. I enjoyed my walks across the ship on DCL. On CCL, sometimes, I would go down to Deck 2 and dodge housekeeping carts or luggage, but at least I wouldn't have to go through the casino.

 

-They have really high pressure sales. They tell you to get to the theater 30 min before the show for seats, but when you do, they start selling bingo cards while everyone waits and there is a bingo game. This is an obvious and desperate sales tactic that worked as many people around me bought cards cuz they were bored. I would have liked to leave (since I don't participate in Bingo) but if I did, I would be giving up my seat. Captive audience, that's just cheap. DCL has bingo, but you have to go to it if you want to play, its not forced on the mainstage audience.

 

-Same goes for high pressure drink sales. We couldn't hardly get our water filled by our waters in the MDR, but the bar guy with the tray of shots came around plenty.

 

-I am no longer entertained by crowded bean bag tosses, vulgar hairy chest or sexy man contests, I've seen some disgusting things done with bananas for deck parties and broadcast for the world to see on the gigantic deck movie screen in front of families and everyone. I don't need to see vegas G-string style entertainment on the main stage, that is so 80s-90s cruise. I LOVED Disney's dancers and singers, even if some of the main plots were juvenile. The talent was REALLY BIG, and the actors were some of the funniest live actors I have ever seen. Really hard to pull off. Those shows were worth $50 on land. Can you ever say that about Carnival? I mean really? I want my stage shows to be PG rated, and not feature dancers mounted on a mechanical bull- nuff said.

 

-I always enjoyed the food on CCL but its getting a bit old, but since everything changes every day this year, that won't be the case anymore. Our problem was the service didn't get it to us because they were overwelmed. It is more banquet style and DCL is more interesting and artistically presented. I am deadset against the family style dining. That sounds like a food sensitivity nightmare, giving everyone the same bowl to eat out of with limited options. DCL wasn't perfect, but some of it was really stellar. Our servers were literally the best we have ever had. We have had good service on the Holiday & Triumph but only since 2011, and not since CCL went to terrible 3 person disorganized teams that serve a huge number of tables and can't keep up.

 

-On the Conquest, they let us play volleyball and gave us a net and a ball, and it was a blast! This year on the Dream, they made us 25+ adult aged have CM supervision...? And wait until it was scheduled on the worst sea day of weather we had. Then they shut us down because the steak house opened 20 min later immediately below us (poor design there to put a basketball court on top of it). Just not very fun. With DC, we wanted to clone ourselves 3 times over. We never did make it to the 3D movie theater, there are so many things we need to do on this next one. The entertainment offerings and schedule as sooooo crazy busy, even on the private island, that we would have to turn down several choices. On CCL, there just aren't that many choices.... its cut back to the point where you basically entertain yourself. We had 4 comedians on our Conquest, we had two for 2 days on the Dream.

 

CCL doesn't cut it for me anymore. Our room steward, the only time we talked to him the entire week, he asked us for more tips (we always leave autotips on). So while I pay more to go on DCl, the staff at least to appears to be friendlier and more welcoming and I'm hoping they get taken care of, and just to be sure, because they all did a superior job that DCL, they all got extra tips. You dont have to ask for tips when your work shows it, at least not to us. The CCL one got his normal tips and not much more. The DCL got her normal tips plus more. Its just better business. I don't want to feel like I'm on an informercial for vacation.

 

Even my husband, who LOVES all cruises and wasn't that disappointed with CCL this yr as I was, even he said we don't have to go on anymore CCLs. He's a pretty cheap frugal kinda guy but he never said we over paid with Disney. He let us open all the new Disney card accts, helps us get our points up, let me open my own, let us book next yr's with the 10% off coupon we got, and now 18 in our group is going.

 

Not to mention that we sailed about 2-3 weeks after the Triumph disaster, and then our same ship broke down a week and a half after we got off of it. That was TOO close for comfort. I was already unhappy with CCL from the pure experience, and the crowds, and the lines (even for self serve icecream? Or just to get coffee in the buffet?) and then to know that my ship's generator's may have gone out on me had it been a week different. After all the ribbing at work, I would have never lived that down. Plus my dad knew Mom would never set foot on a carnival ship after those two had problems, so that's how we ended up on our family first and only so far Disney cruise: Disney has the reputation for reliability. Mom never batted an eye when she set foot on their ship...

 

Case in point..thank you for the negative input...your negativity out weighed the positive!

Edited December 19, 2013 by vacation_junkie

[BullDawg91]

Twinprincessmermaids can't be faulted for a negative review of CCL when that was her experience. She had very specific instances of things she became unhappy with on CCL.

 

By contrast, she loved her Disney cruise.

 

Since the title of the thread is whether DCL is worth it, she pointed out why she prefers DCL over CCL.

[vacation_junkie]

Twinprincessmermaids can't be faulted for a negative review of CCL when that was her experience. She had very specific instances of things she became unhappy with on CCL.

 

By contrast, she loved her Disney cruise.

 

Since the title of the thread is whether DCL is worth it, she pointed out why she prefers DCL over CCL.

 

My point was

They stated that ....saying that people are more prone to write a negative review over a positive one was an untrue statement.

 

Then they wrote a negative review bashing Carnival. They spent their time writing negative points as to why they hate Carnival and how horrible their cruise was. They said very few things why DCL is worth it!

 

People are allowed to have their opinion both positive and negative.

 

The point of this thread is "Why DCL is Worth the $ spent, not how bad other lines are".

 

DCL isn't worth the extra because of the horrible food on Cruise Line "A" or the Cheesy Activities of Cruise line " B" or the dirty room experience of Cruise line "C".

 

Its worth the extra money because....

• The Magical atmosphere & ambiance of the ship
  
• The looks on the little kids faces when they board the ship or meet their favourite Princess or Beast.
  
• The memorable Pirate night followed by amazing fireworks.
  
• Unlimited supply of yummy Mickey Heads
  
• Actual cups at the soda (Free Soda) Dispensers vs the tiny little two sip plastic cups on other lines.
  
• A visit to the Beautiful Castaway Cay. Something you can't experience on other Lines.
  

And so forth...

 

Those are some of the things that make DCL worth the extra $!

Edited December 20, 2013 by vacation_junkie

[TwinPrincessMermaids]

Actually I had plenty of positive things about DCL in that comparative post. I almost went to write another one about the I credibly friendly crew, amazing waitstaff, upscale dining, but then I realized all the things I loved about are IN my other 'negative post'. Other than the amazing ports, I can't really come up with positives about the last CCL. I tried. I thought "well the food was good" but then I remembered that the wait staff had no idea what a gluten free menu was and when I asked 3 times and he nodded and smiled, I just gave up and ate what I could. I got sooo sick, I only ate fruit and fish the rest of the cruise, unlike my Conquest wait staff that took our GF order every night early. (Positive remark for Conquest. CCL Dream is just crappy by CCL standards.) I would say the comedy is good but we had a hard time making it to it with the really long dinner service.

 

Point being, if an experience is negative, its not my fault. They have wowwed me in the past and let me down this time. DCL deserves all my praise based on my experience. That of course could change too but so far so good. Can't wait for May!

 

 

 

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[ms.gloria]

Been on both, and while they are about the same, carnival is better because of the price.

[ducklite]

Been on both, and while they are about the same, carnival is better because of the price.

 

 

For people who are price sensitive and would never enjoy a cruise that they had to pay a premium for, even if it offered more non-quantifiable benefits, you are correct. However just as some people will only book a budget motel through Priceline for $28 per night, others pay full price for a five star hotel.

 

They both have a bed and bathroom, but that's where the similarities end. Can you put a price on every benefit offered by the five star? No, because some are strictly premiums such as enhanced service, better quality furnishings, better mattresses and bedding, etc. that's why there are all different types of cruises with different levels if service and amenities and different price points.

 

 

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[mshe]

[*]The memorable Pirate night followed by amazing fireworks.

[*]Unlimited supply of yummy Mickey Heads

[*]Actual cups at the soda (Free Soda) Dispensers vs the tiny little two sip plastic cups on other lines.

 

 

The fireworks on the Magic was pretty unimpressive, just 10 or 15 ill-timed shots here and there.

 

Disney also ran out of Mickey Heads on Day 3 of the cruise.

 

However, I agree with you, the fact that soda and juice is free is a nice touch.

[Ex techie]

[sNIP] The fireworks on the Magic was pretty unimpressive, just 10 or 15 ill-timed shots here and there.

 

Just 10 or 15 shots that were ill-timed?

I wonder if they had a technical challenge as the usual display is a lot longer with many more products launched and they are shot "in time" or synchronised with the music? :confused:

 

Was it not like this? (Skip to 5:30)

 

 

ex techie

Edited December 22, 2013 by Ex techie

[e2011]

We had a blast on our carnival cruise, because we were on vacation and we had our kids with us. But my main complaints: The room was dirty. The food was bland and mushy. (comparable to Golden Corral, only I think their potatoes are better at the Golden Corral) And the entertainment was not only scarce, but cheap and uneventful. There were only 2 shows on a 5 day cruise. They had the same actors, so were basically a variation on each other. The rest of the entertainment "how to make towel animals" and "the love and marriage game".

 

MY QUESTION:

 

Is Disney worth it? It is twice the amount of Carnival of an equivalent itinerary (and then some on some trips). We LOVE cruising, but Carnival is just not for us... Will Disney make a big difference?

 

Thanks

 

There are other solutions. You could Try Norwegian and Royal Caribbean. We have found the prices are less, food comparable and activities on the ship a bit more than Disney (on the bigger ships). The concierge level rooms on Disney are better that concierge on Royal but about the same as Concierge on Norwegian. Each line has its own plus's but I recommend you try all of them once and make up your own mind as to which ones you would repeat.

Edited December 22, 2013 by e2011

[mshe]

Just 10 or 15 shots that were ill-timed?

I wonder if they had a technical challenge as the usual display is a lot longer with many more products launched and they are shot "in time" or synchronised with the music? :confused:

 

Was it not like this? (Skip to 5:30)

 

 

The fireworks were much more sparse, there were "gaps" in the fireworks too. I may have exaggerated that there were only 15 fireworks total, but that's how it felt at the time due to the sparseness of fireworks.

 

The show/fireworks were delayed by 30 minutes, so perhaps they were having technical difficulties.

Edited December 22, 2013 by mshe

[Tonka's Skipper]

I thinks those pushing the carnival prices may consider looking at the reasons................the vessel problems, fire, breakdown, many governing agencies investigations and $400 million being spend over the next few years to bring their vessels up to standard. Add problems with Carnival owned lines i and 32 dead passengers and 1 sinking.

 

These have lead to a continued elimination of passenger amenities on board their vessels and give away cruise prices. Right now carnival is in big financial problems and industry is starting to wonder if they will survive. They cannot get giving away cruises.

 

I would suggest reading on the carnival sites, most folks over their are not happy.

 

DCL has proven that the Disney cruise experience is well worth the extra costs(which here or greatly inflated), because they deliver a better and unique cruise. The public has confirmed the better DCL cruise experience with continued support and full and near capacity cruises over and over again.

 

 

All that said, if you want Carnival, sail Carnival, ot each their own, but reading on various sites, the main reason most sail carnival is due to cheap cruises.

 

 

AKK

[declansdad]

I thinks those pushing the carnival prices may consider looking at the reasons................the vessel problems' date=' fire, breakdown, many governing agencies investigations and $400 million being spend over the next few years to bring their vessels up to standard. Add problems with Carnival owned lines i and 32 dead passengers and 1 sinking.

 

These have lead to a continued elimination of passenger amenities on board their vessels and give away cruise prices. Right now carnival is in big financial problems and industry is starting to wonder if they will survive. They cannot get giving away cruises.

 

I would suggest reading on the carnival sites, most folks over their are not happy.

 

DCL has proven that the Disney cruise experience is well worth the extra costs(which here or greatly inflated), because they deliver a better and unique cruise. The public has confirmed the better DCL cruise experience with continued support and full and near capacity cruises over and over again.

 

 

All that said, if you want Carnival, sail Carnival, ot each their own, but reading on various sites, the main reason most sail carnival is due to cheap cruises.

 

 

AKK[/quote']

 

 

Even when people who have cruised both tell you that each had their pluses and minuses you continue to spout the same old lines.

 

For the record, price is only part of the reason we have cruised with Carnival.

[ms.gloria]

I thinks those pushing the carnival prices may consider looking at the reasons................the vessel problems' date=' fire, breakdown, many governing agencies investigations and $400 million being spend over the next few years to bring their vessels up to standard. Add problems with Carnival owned lines i and 32 dead passengers and 1 sinking.

 

These have lead to a continued elimination of passenger amenities on board their vessels and give away cruise prices. Right now carnival is in big financial problems and industry is starting to wonder if they will survive. They cannot get giving away cruises.

 

I would suggest reading on the carnival sites, most folks over their are not happy.

 

DCL has proven that the Disney cruise experience is well worth the extra costs(which here or greatly inflated), because they deliver a better and unique cruise. The public has confirmed the better DCL cruise experience with continued support and full and near capacity cruises over and over again.

 

 

All that said, if you want Carnival, sail Carnival, ot each their own, but reading on various sites, the main reason most sail carnival is due to cheap cruises.

 

 

AKK[/quote']

 

Absolutely false in my opinion. I cruise carnival not because they are cheap, but because they provide the most for the money. Big difference here. Also, carnival is not in financial trouble, just take a lion at their stock price last week.

 

Both dcl and ccl are nice, but I prefer ccl unless you have children under 7 or so

Edited December 23, 2013 by ms.gloria

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Absolutely false in my opinion. I cruise carnival not because they are cheap, but because they provide the most for the money. Big difference here. Also, carnival is not in financial trouble, just take a lion at their stock price last week.

 

Both dcl and ccl are nice, but I prefer ccl unless you have children under 7 or so

 

 

The most what for the money? Certainly not the nicest suites, best adult only restaurants, or easiest disembarkation. Some cabins in Carnival don't even provide basic toiletries. Add in the nickel and diming (pay extra to board early, pay extra for soda or juice, etc.) as well as what I consider to be an undesirable demographic in manyCarnival cruises, no thanks.

 

 

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