buggins0402 Posted September 22, 2014 #101 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I also really like the suspence of it all....regardless of the outcome... we paid for an inside G guarantee....on the marina...with very few insides and all seem available right now...but also there are about 68 cabins available minimum, what we can see on line....the rest we cant see......all in the balcony and penthouse categories...it is about 40 days till sail time....because it is lisbon to rio, visas are needed for rio and with the air availability as it is, there will be very few more sales , I would think...so if they dont offer good upsells, the ship may sail as much as a third empty.... just really fun to speculate.... Actually for an ocean crossing there may be some that would not want to give up an outside on Marina for an upsell offer. They are low, center and pretty nice. So you could end up with a balcony. No one knows. Patience Grasshopper.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Miggins Posted September 22, 2014 #102 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Mrs Miggins, possibly it is a US thing, as I am on your cruise. I have received 2 upsell offers in the past week, one to a Vista Suite and one to a Concierge cabin, but did not accept either - the suite offer was more than I wanted to pay for this upgrade, the concierge offer did not appeal as I don't believe that is better than what I have. The other possibility is that my cabin category is needed/waitlisted and possibly yours is not? Can't remember the cabin type you are in, I am in a Veranda with an extended balcony, B3. Hi, hope we have a great cruise! We are in a B1 and I would normally be very happy with that but on this cruise we are joined by our 21 year old daughter so it will be a tight squeeze. A vista suite would be great and we would be willing to pay a reasonable amount but not the brochure price. I will phone again tomorrow but not holding out much hope. Was the suite offer you had a reasonable discount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachchairs2 Posted September 22, 2014 Author #103 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Actually for an ocean crossing there may be some that would not want to give up an outside on Marina for an upsell offer. They are low, center and pretty nice. So you could end up with a balcony. No one knows. Patience Grasshopper.:) you mean , they wouldnt want to give up an INSIDE.....right now they are also all available... yes patience, indeed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buggins0402 Posted September 22, 2014 #104 Share Posted September 22, 2014 you mean , they wouldnt want to give up an INSIDE.....right now they are also all available... yes patience, indeed.... All the o/s are open also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachchairs2 Posted September 22, 2014 Author #105 Share Posted September 22, 2014 yes, many are still available in almost all categories.... so the suspence is building...just hoping since we are first timers they might want to treat us this first time... but I know it is just luck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare terry&mike Posted September 22, 2014 #106 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Mrs Miggins, Apologies as I just checked the email from last week and it was not for a Vista Suite, but for an Oceania Suite. The upsell rate offered was an additional $2500 usd per person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilin jack Posted September 22, 2014 #107 Share Posted September 22, 2014 with very few insides and all seem available right now...but also there are about 68 cabins available minimum, what we can see on line Just curious Beachchairs, where online are you seeing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptcellen Posted September 22, 2014 #108 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I am not beachchairs, but the way to find out about the availability is to go onto the Oceania boards and put in a "fake" booking. All the catagories come up, and you just go into each category and it will pull up available cabins. It only shows up to 7 at a time. Ellen:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachchairs2 Posted September 22, 2014 Author #109 Share Posted September 22, 2014 can put in your own name...it neednt be a fake one..and you will see max 7...then you can put in other numbers of cabins to see if they also are available....to get a rough idea of how many minimum....there is no other way that I know of ...even agents cant see the whole picture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanandJim Posted September 22, 2014 #110 Share Posted September 22, 2014 can put in your own name...it neednt be a fake one..and you will see max 7...then you can put in other numbers of cabins to see if they also are available....to get a rough idea of how many minimum....there is no other way that I know of ...even agents cant see the whole picture... Through the Oceania Site that is true, but there are other travel sites which have more sophisticated software.....don't assume that Agents don't know :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilin jack Posted September 22, 2014 #111 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I guess I am confused....other than here, where is the Oceania board? I went to oceania.com and pulled up my cruise, went to fares, and clicked on everything I could click on and didn't find open rooms. help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilin jack Posted September 22, 2014 #112 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Never mind...I figured it out. Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buggins0402 Posted September 22, 2014 #113 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Perhaps another thing complicating looking at the O website for open cabins....it can't possibly reflect the "guarantees" in each class. As Stan and Jim said, one would need a vigorous TA search engine to know how many open cabins there truly are in each class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachchairs2 Posted September 22, 2014 Author #114 Share Posted September 22, 2014 jack, knew you could do it... I dont count the guarantee categories...on our sailing there are only 2...I assume there are no cabins available for those cats...if you purchase one of those, you will get something better or the same if it becomes available.... as for having an idea of what is available, if you have the time and an obsessive nature, like me, I make a chart of all the known facts and check them to look for changes.... but this is only if I have the time to do that...when I am busy, there is no way for this kind of close up research.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanandJim Posted September 23, 2014 #115 Share Posted September 23, 2014 but this is only if I have the time to do that...when I am busy, there is no way for this kind of close up research.... Trust me, you are wasting your time. The people who handle such things at Oceania put a good deal of time and effort into keeping their efforts un-predictable. -And I don't think that it is telling tales out of school when I inform you that there were some very frequent cruisers who found themselves banned for life when they tried to play "the system" just a little too closely. To be fair, those people were doing a lot more than "keeping track", but still.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchestrapal Posted September 23, 2014 #116 Share Posted September 23, 2014 This all can be so simple. Book the cabin you actually want and you will not constantly have to worry about upsells and upgrades.. Funny how everyone waits for the big bargain or something for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvmovielover Posted September 23, 2014 #117 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I have not forgotten the longish thread that suddenly disappeared from one of the "frequent cruisers" who got banned and proudly explained how it was done. I felt guilty when we got an upgrade offer we took while that thread was running though we were first time O cruisers with no idea about all this stuff. I had however read enough here to take the offer when I saw one we liked. We were lucky enough to get upgrades at prices we felt were fair (not free) twice on cruises that were not sold out for different reasons this year but never book a cabin we would not be happy to stay in. O finds people to fill a lot of those empty cabins by the time of a cruise. Our Baltic cruise was almost full (great offers for UK cruisers helped) despite all who would not go there this year. What we did not have was the attitude that as first time cruisers we should get something for nothing so we would come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachchairs2 Posted September 23, 2014 Author #118 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I chose to respond to those here who have made this an interesting discussion....rather than those with criticisms and put downs.... banned for life for being interested in availability on a cruise? really? well in that case..... I know NOTHING....I see NOTHING...I hear NOTHING....could also add feel and smell NOTHING....but you get the point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachchairs2 Posted September 23, 2014 Author #119 Share Posted September 23, 2014 stan and jim, wish I had known your advice right at the beginning of this topic....I would have had it removed....maybe should do so soon... remember I am new to this, have never heard that you are not allowed to discuss this highly sensitive, top secret information...my excuse is ignorance of the newly uninformed.... my bad.... so to O..... please forgive me for trying to find information that you dont want anyone to have, forgive me for budding my nose into secrets that are not my business....and if you put me into the boiler room for this terrible indiscretion, I will understand....as well as mopping the decks if you should so desire in pennance for my wrongdoings.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorisis Posted September 24, 2014 #120 Share Posted September 24, 2014 We can only book anaccessible cabins because my husband needs his scooter. That means an inside on the Regatta. We tried the deluxe OV but they are a bit too small for the scooter and we can't afford the suites. Although neither of us likes inside but what else can we do if we want to go on an Oceania R ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roothy123 Posted September 24, 2014 #121 Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) We can only book anaccessible cabins because my husband needs his scooter. That means an inside on the Regatta. We tried the deluxe OV but they are a bit too small for the scooter and we can't afford the suites. Although neither of us likes inside but what else can we do if we want to go on an Oceania R ship? After just cruising in a deluxe OV on an R ship for the first time, my impression was that it was not substantially better than an inside stateroom, unless, of course, you are claustrophobic. At least many of the insides are in great locations, tucked in the middle of the ship, length-wise and width-wise, though this may not be true for the accessible cabins. Also, I may have mentioned this before, but I use the TV's bridge cam channel to get an idea of what's ahead or how the weather is. Of course, I have to admit that I liked the ledge under the deluxe OV window. I was always putting oft-used or soon to be used things there (camera, key card, Currents) and it kept the stateroom a little less cluttered. Just curious: Deluxe OVs and insides on Regatta are so similar in overall square footage, but does anyone know if the square footage is calculated to include the window, or just to where the wall would be if there was no indentation for the window? I am assuming it includes the window space, because I think the veranda cabin square footage includes the veranda space, but I'm not sure. Also, does the inside work better for a scooter because of how the room is configured (foot of bed in front of you as you enter room versus side of bed for deluxe OV)? Edited September 24, 2014 by roothy123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacheco18 Posted September 24, 2014 #122 Share Posted September 24, 2014 My advice is simple If u want all this information and want to know about good deals on upsell a or downsells work closely with a ta who had lots of experience with Oceania. You don't need to do any research. Your ta will happy do it Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanny18 Posted September 24, 2014 #123 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Just curious: Deluxe OVs and insides on Regatta are so similar in overall square footage, but does anyone know if the square footage is calculated to include the window, or just to where the wall would be if there was no indentation for the window? I am assuming it includes the window space, because I think the veranda cabin square footage includes the veranda space, but I'm not sure. Also, does the inside work better for a scooter because of how the room is configured (foot of bed in front of you as you enter room versus side of bed for deluxe OV)? The Obstructed View is 143 sq. ft vs . 160 sq. ft. for the inside. The Veranda Cabins are 165 sq. ft. not including the veranda. So there is a considerable difference between the OV and Inside. Depends on what makes you happy!! I also believe there is no loveseat in the OV cabins. Arlene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachchairs2 Posted September 24, 2014 Author #124 Share Posted September 24, 2014 laraine, definitely that is the best advice..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CintiPam Posted September 24, 2014 #125 Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) The Obstructed View is 143 sq. ft vs . 160 sq. ft. for the inside. The Veranda Cabins are 165 sq. ft. not including the veranda. So there is a considerable difference between the OV and Inside. Depends on what makes you happy!! I also believe there is no loveseat in the OV cabins. Arlene These cabins are substantially smaller but very well laid out IMO, with the length parallel to the corridor, so great access to the closets and the window can be used for bedside storage. Also, the two most forward (6030 and 6033) are barely obstructed because the small zodiacs hang from a davit below window level, so only the narrow davit obstructs the view. We sailed in this size cabin on our first two cruises and really loved the central location. The lack of a loveseat made me much neater regarding clothing and packages, and we also had the small table removed. Edited September 24, 2014 by CintiPam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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