zantedeschia Posted January 17, 2014 #1 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) Be forewarned if you have any sort of criminal conviction or deferred adjudication on record. Royal Caribbean is running background checks on all prospective passengers and will deny boarding if one does not answer their questions or if they are not satisfied with the answers. They don't factor in if you've previously cruised with them and are an Emerald or Diamond member either. I don't know if they're looking at all felonies/misdemeanors or mainly targeting people listed in the sex offender registry. My advice is to complete your set sail pass well in advance so you're not surprised by this a few days before your cruise. Get your attorney involved if you have one. Possibly contact RC about your background before they contact you about it to show good faith. This is not meant for people who think registered sex offenders should never be allowed on a cruise ship. I'm aware many people are ignorant about such matters and prone to hysteria so I expect this thread to turn into a flame fest and I probably won't return to it. Edited January 17, 2014 by zantedeschia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp30338 Posted January 17, 2014 #2 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) Nothing new about this. Every passengers name is screened and turned over to gov't officials prior to embarkation. Soo if you have a warrant, have a nasty felony record, or are a registered sex offender most likely not a good idea to cruise... And a great policy too imo! Edited January 17, 2014 by jp30338 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired LEO Posted January 17, 2014 #3 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Be forewarned if you have any sort of criminal conviction or deferred adjudication on record. Royal Caribbean is running background checks on all prospective passengers and will deny boarding if one does not answer their questions or if they are not satisfied with the answers. I don't know if they're looking at all felons or mainly targeting people listed on the sex offender registry. My advice is to fill out your set sail pass well in advance so you're not surprised by this a few days before your cruise. Also get your attorney involved if you have one. Possibly contact RC about your background before they contact you about it to show good faith. This is not meant for people who think registered sex offenders should never be allowed on a cruise ship. I'm aware many people are ignorant about such matters and prone to hysteria so I expect this thread to turn into a flame fest and I probably won't return to it. They've been running checks on passengers all along. Anyone with warrants are taken into custody. It's a regular occurrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsail Posted January 17, 2014 #4 Share Posted January 17, 2014 This or some form of this has been done for years. Deadbeats are often caught at the pier, if you can afford to cruise then pay your support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelplus Posted January 17, 2014 #5 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I fully support this because airlines do this with the TSA. I would not want to be sailing with someone who could potentially be unsafe. I'm sure Royal Caribbean is trying to cover their basis so the cruise will be as safe as possible. Other cruiselines have had issues so if Royal is trying to make it safer for us then more power to them. Anyways when you show your Passport they can access InterPol to see any criminal convictions or Visa overstay etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewpapa Posted January 17, 2014 #6 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Deferred Adjudication means its not on your record, just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp30338 Posted January 17, 2014 #7 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Deferred Adjudication means its not on your record, just saying The actual arrest record will regardless of conviction, just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zantedeschia Posted January 17, 2014 Author #8 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) No, this is something they just started doing last March or April. This isn't about if someone has a warrant out or is violating their parole or probation. This is about if you did something 15 years ago and have been a good citizen since you got out of jail, completed all your community service requirements and have completed your probation years ago and RC digs it up and now they want to talk to you about it. This is especially about if you're listed in the sex offender registry no matter what your offense was. Perhaps deferred adjudication varies from state to state but in Texas, it's viewed the same as a guilty plea. It shouldn't be I know, but it is. Edited January 17, 2014 by zantedeschia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted January 17, 2014 #9 Share Posted January 17, 2014 No, this is something they just started doing last March or April. This isn't about if someone has a warrant out or is violating their parole or probation. This is about if you did something 15 years ago and have been a good citizen since you got out of jail, completed all your community service requirements and have completed your probation years ago and RC digs it up and now they want to talk to you about it. This is especially about if you're listed in the sex offender registry no matter what your offense was. Perhaps deferred adjudication varies from state to state but in Texas, it's viewed the same as a guilty plea. It shouldn't be I know, but it is. Is this cruise soon? I ask because the cruise line has to submit a manifest to DHS a few days prior to the cruise for review and has had to for years now. That policy isn't new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp30338 Posted January 17, 2014 #10 Share Posted January 17, 2014 No, this is something they just started doing last March or April. This isn't about if someone has a warrant out or is violating their parole or probation. This is about if you did something 15 years ago and have been a good citizen since you got out of jail, completed all your community service requirements and have completed your probation years ago and RC digs it up and now they want to talk to you about it. This is especially about if you're listed in the sex offender registry no matter what your offense was. Perhaps deferred adjudication varies from state to state but in Texas, it's viewed the same as a guilty plea. It shouldn't be I know, but it is. Respect the laws like normal and productive citizens and follow your probation/parole rules and you wouldn't have had a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginadc Posted January 17, 2014 #11 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Particularly considering that we are cruising with our three young children, I am beyond happy to know that this is being done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zantedeschia Posted January 17, 2014 Author #12 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Is this cruise soon? I ask because the cruise line has to submit a manifest to DHS a few days prior to the cruise for review and has had to for years now. That policy isn't new. In a month. It's really strange cause I almost always wait till last minute to do the set sail and I'm so glad I did it early this cruise. The email came like a day or two after I completed it, it's like they got the new info and they ran it immediately. The new info being they now *require* middle names when you register, when before it was optional. The agent we talked to at Royal said it was a new policy they just started last year and they've already revised it a few times. I am not the ex-con in question tho I think it's cute I'm already being chastised for not obeying the law. I'm so squeaky clean, I don't even get traffic tickets. The ex-con in question? Personally, I think he got shafted by the system. Laws aren't always cut and dry or applied/interpreted evenly or are fair or right. But I'm getting into an area I said I wasn't going to in my first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp30338 Posted January 17, 2014 #13 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) In a month. It's really strange cause I almost always wait till last minute to do the set sail and I'm so glad I did it early this cruise. The email came like a day or two after I completed it, it's like they got the new info and they ran it immediately. The new info being they now *require* middle names when you register, when before it was optional. The agent we talked to at Royal said it was a new policy they just started last year and they've already revised it a few times. I am not the ex-con in question tho I think it's cute I'm already being chastised for not obeying the law. I'm so squeaky clean, I don't even get traffic tickets. The ex-con in question? Personally, I think he got shafted by the system. Laws aren't always cut and dry or applied/interpreted evenly or are fair or right. But I'm getting into an area I said I wasn't going to in my first post. It's quite cut and dry when a judge hits that gavel... either your guilty or innocent. Suck it up buttercup and stop whining about about your past catching up to you! Edited January 17, 2014 by jp30338 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted January 17, 2014 #14 Share Posted January 17, 2014 In a month. It's really strange cause I almost always wait till last minute to do the set sail and I'm so glad I did it early this cruise. The email came like a day or two after I completed it, it's like they got the new info and they ran it immediately. The new info being they now *require* middle names when you register, when before it was optional. The agent we talked to at Royal said it was a new policy they just started last year and they've already revised it a few times. I am not the ex-con in question tho I think it's cute I'm already being chastised for not obeying the law. I'm so squeaky clean, I don't even get traffic tickets. The ex-con in question? Personally, I think he got shafted by the system. Laws aren't always cut and dry or applied/interpreted evenly or are fair or right. But I'm getting into an area I said I wasn't going to in my first post. I am not chastising anyone, I was just trying to get a better idea as to when in the process the new screening happens. As far as some of the other posts, use the ignore feature or just skip the posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bchalker Posted January 17, 2014 #15 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Be forewarned if you have any sort of criminal conviction or deferred adjudication on record. Royal Caribbean is running background checks on all prospective passengers and will deny boarding if one does not answer their questions or if they are not satisfied with the answers. They don't factor in if you've previously cruised with them and are an Emerald or Diamond member either. I don't know if they're looking at all felonies/misdemeanors or mainly targeting people listed in the sex offender registry. My advice is to complete your set sail pass well in advance so you're not surprised by this a few days before your cruise. Get your attorney involved if you have one. Possibly contact RC about your background before they contact you about it to show good faith. This is not meant for people who think registered sex offenders should never be allowed on a cruise ship. I'm aware many people are ignorant about such matters and prone to hysteria so I expect this thread to turn into a flame fest and I probably won't return to it. No truth to this at all. The cruise line does not do any criminal background check. sheesh:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblair Posted January 17, 2014 #16 Share Posted January 17, 2014 If you have an outstanding warrant, or violating probation, etc... I'm completely for it! IF, you have done your time and fulfilled all the requirements and are now a productive member in society then you should be able to cruise like anyone else. You shouldn't continue to get judged again for a past offense that you have fulfilled. If it is a serious repeat offender with a long history then I could see where some judgment is warranted. I have a real problem with the "sex offender" label. It is frequently misapplied. I have often said you're better off murdering someone in cold blood than being labeled a sex offender. At least for murder you can do your time and put it in the past. The sex offender label never goes away. I have seen it misapplied too many times to kids in school or just out of school that dated, sometimes in a serious relationship, and are only a couple years apart. In some cases I've heard of them getting married and being together for many years but because he was 18 and she was 17 when they met he's a sex offender for life. Stupid. Now if it is a 45yo man perving on a 11yo kid that is a completely different story. The problem is they are all treated exactly the same which does justice for no one. I served on a jury for a domestic abuse case. It was a he-said, she-said case. Problem was she wasn't even at the trial, but we were not allowed to hold that against her. Once the trial was over, I found out as a jury how manipulated we had been by the judge and atty and the information were not given. If it wasn't for that, the verdict would not have been guilty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEBOY305 Posted January 17, 2014 #17 Share Posted January 17, 2014 No, this is something they just started doing last March or April. This isn't about if someone has a warrant out or is violating their parole or probation. This is about if you did something 15 years ago and have been a good citizen since you got out of jail, completed all your community service requirements and have completed your probation years ago and RC digs it up and now they want to talk to you about it. This is especially about if you're listed in the sex offender registry no matter what your offense was. Perhaps deferred adjudication varies from state to state but in Texas, it's viewed the same as a guilty plea. It shouldn't be I know, but it is. This is not new. All the cruise lines have been doing this. Just like the airlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEBOY305 Posted January 17, 2014 #18 Share Posted January 17, 2014 No truth to this at all. The cruise line does not do any criminal background check. sheesh:rolleyes: It's not really a criminal background check. Not sure what it's called but it's in conjuncture with homeland security. They just want to make sure you're not a wanted criminal or psychopath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bchalker Posted January 17, 2014 #19 Share Posted January 17, 2014 If you have an outstanding warrant, or violating probation, etc... I'm completely for it! IF, you have done your time and fulfilled all the requirements and are now a productive member in society then you should be able to cruise like anyone else. You shouldn't continue to get judged again for a past offense that you have fulfilled. If it is a serious repeat offender with a long history then I could see where some judgment is warranted. I have a real problem with the "sex offender" label. It is frequently misapplied. I have often said you're better off murdering someone in cold blood than being labeled a sex offender. At least for murder you can do your time and put it in the past. The sex offender label never goes away. I have seen it misapplied too many times to kids in school or just out of school that dated, sometimes in a serious relationship, and are only a couple years apart. In some cases I've heard of them getting married and being together for many years but because he was 18 and she was 17 when they met he's a sex offender for life. Stupid. Now if it is a 45yo man perving on a 11yo kid that is a completely different story. The problem is they are all treated exactly the same which does justice for no one. I served on a jury for a domestic abuse case. It was a he-said, she-said case. Problem was she wasn't even at the trial, but we were not allowed to hold that against her. Once the trial was over, I found out as a jury how manipulated we had been by the judge and atty and the information were not given. If it wasn't for that, the verdict would not have been guilty! There are no cases of an 18yr old dating a 17yr old and being labeled a sex offender for life. It takes more a difference than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb008 Posted January 17, 2014 #20 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) There are no cases of an 18yr old dating a 17yr old and being labeled a sex offender for life. It takes more a difference than that. You sure about that? Something like 11 state have age of consent as 18, with some additional states allowing for charges under corrupting or endangering a minor even if they are >Age of Consent but <18. Also, if you were to photograph and (intentionally or accidentally) distribute inappropriate pictures of your 17 yo sig other, independent of whether you're >18 or not you could also get hit w/it. Here's an example of potential charges like that being filed - http://pix11.com/2013/03/14/snapchat-sexting-scandal-at-nj-high-school-could-result-in-child-porn-charges/ Edited January 17, 2014 by jb008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bchalker Posted January 17, 2014 #21 Share Posted January 17, 2014 You sure about that? Something like 11 state have age of consent as 18, with some additional states allowing for charges under corrupting or endangering a minor even if they are >Age of Consent but <18. Also, if you were to photograph and (intentionally or accidentally) distribute inappropriate pictures of your 17 yo sig other, independent of whether you're >18 or not you could also get hit w/it. Here's an example of potential charges like that being filed - http://pix11.com/2013/03/14/snapchat-sexting-scandal-at-nj-high-school-could-result-in-child-porn-charges/ Yeah I am sure of that. Just because age of consent is 18 doesnt mean an 18yr old will get a 19yr old in trouble. Also the link you provided mentions no charges except possible trouble with school like being suspended. Secondly the girl was 15. So if a boy was distributing pics of her I have no problem with that prosecution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonTehGreat Posted January 17, 2014 #22 Share Posted January 17, 2014 In some places you are labeled a "sex offender" for public urination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted January 17, 2014 #23 Share Posted January 17, 2014 In some places you are labeled a "sex offender" for public urination. Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonTehGreat Posted January 17, 2014 #24 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Where? http://www.publicintegrity.org/2013/05/01/12594/report-details-lives-ruined-children-put-sex-offender-registries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oo7 Bond! Posted January 17, 2014 #25 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Be forewarned if you have any sort of criminal conviction or deferred adjudication on record. Royal Caribbean is running background checks on all prospective passengers and will deny boarding if one does not answer their questions or if they are not satisfied with the answers. They don't factor in if you've previously cruised with them and are an Emerald or Diamond member either. I don't know if they're looking at all felonies/misdemeanors or mainly targeting people listed in the sex offender registry. My advice is to complete your set sail pass well in advance so you're not surprised by this a few days before your cruise. Get your attorney involved if you have one. Possibly contact RC about your background before they contact you about it to show good faith. This is not meant for people who think registered sex offenders should never be allowed on a cruise ship. I'm aware many people are ignorant about such matters and prone to hysteria so I expect this thread to turn into a flame fest and I probably won't return to it. BRAVO!!!! Glad RCI is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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