Norwegian Cruise Line Bans Smoking on Balconies

[Partyatsea]

Sanitized for your protection. <grin>

 

 

Yup

[luvtheships]

And IF the new rules have been at the insistence of the insurers, said insurers will require that these rules are enforced by the cruise line.

 

Here we go again.....

 

Using our brains and logic.

 

 

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[mein18]

What everyone seems to be ignoring is that there will be designated outdoor areas to smoke, most likely much more convenient to get to than the casino and with a much better view. As a smoker, I will certainly miss my morning cup of coffee on the balcony and maybe a drink in the afternoon however it is what it is. Life goes on. I have always been beyond courteous and will continue to be so. I can not stand being in a smoke filled room such as the casino in fact if we come accross the occassional bar that allows smoking I still go outside. With all that said maybe I am in the minority but I do not believe as many will flood the casinos as all the non-smokers fear. If they do I may avoid it too and enjoy what then will be an empty area in the designated outdoor smoking areas.

 

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[untailored bostonian]

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More interesting is the deletion of climate messages by big brother.:rolleyes:

[JuneauWhatIMean]

Thank you, NCL. And to those opposed to the new policy, allow me to quote from Mars Attacks: "Yak, yak, yak, yak, yak!!!!!!!"

[DMH15]

Time to walk out then.

 

 

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Actually waited and it was great. I needed it. I knew how many people ahead of me when I signed up.

 

I will sleep better tonight. Dreaming of a cruise.

 

 

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[DMH15]

I'm booked for another cruise in 2015 and hope it will my first non smoking cruise. Recently tried the patch again and it just was not enough. My doctor is great and never nags and is now prescribing Zyban and the patch. Will begin the program on Monday when I pick up my script.

 

 

 

Chantax is not for me for several reasons. I've tried Zyban before and can tolerate it well and hoping along with the patch it will be successful.

 

 

 

So for those who find smokers objectionable please try to remember that many, many of us do our best to quit and keep trying. We need your support and good thoughts:)

 

 

You have my good wishes on your challenge. Good luck!

 

 

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[EyeSeaEwe]

Sanitized for your protection. <grin>

 

Quite the silly practice actually. Then again never mind. :p

[Beaver1975]

Here we go again.....

 

Using our brains and logic.

 

 

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...and who are the insurers reacting to? SOLAS? ... And where is SOLAS coming from?

 

Who is in charge of the the world? Who is charge of your life?

 

 

Who is in charge of YOU?

[judipa]

It isn't as if the people that will come into the casinos just to smoke are going to take up all the machines and tables and just sit there and smoke all day (or night) long. They will come in and through..smoke their cigarette and leave. The smokers that are actually playing will be the ones that might be there for a long time.

 

I don't get any "perverse" pleasure out of the new regulations at all. I am a realist as to what will end up happening.

 

All the chest thumping and complete exaggeration by non-smokers is comical though. I completely understand the trend towards further restrictions to smoking...but more importantly I understand the real reason for it and it has nothing to do with any non-smoking crusade from those in balconies.

 

They cannot go into casino just to smoke- they must play in order to smoke in the casino.

[Red-Sol]

They cannot go into casino just to smoke- they must play in order to smoke in the casino.

 

Keep telling yourself that....

 

We all know there is no such thing as chair hogs either. It is the policy of NCL that no one is allowed to do it.

[Charles4515]

Keep telling yourself that....

 

 

 

We all know there is no such thing as chair hogs either. It is the policy of NCL that no one is allowed to do it.

 

 

I don't think most smokers will do that. But if smokers do abuse the policy and it's difficult to enforce, then the solution will be to move to the next step. Banning smoking in the casino...

[JasonV1]

Interesting link I came across tonight about the current demographics of smokers in the US. Might be of interest to some.

 

http://www.vox.com/2014/7/20/5914397/america-cigarettes-tobacco-demographics

[Charles4515]

Interesting link I came across tonight about the current demographics of smokers in the US. Might be of interest to some.

 

 

 

http://www.vox.com/2014/7/20/5914397/america-cigarettes-tobacco-demographics

 

 

Just a thought. The reason the number of smokers over 65 is much smaller might be because smokers died before reaching that age group.

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[NLH Arizona]

royal Carribean tried non-smoking casino nights. They ditched them really quickly. I can only speculate that it was due to loss of revenue. The 2 ships that have no-smoking in casino (celebrity) and non-smoking casino nights (Princess) charge substantially more for a cabin. Be careful what you wish for

Celebrity charged substantially more for their cabins prior to them having no smoking on balconies and in the casino, so I don't think their prices and non-smoking areas have anything in common.

[sljordan1]

Gosh there is so much hostility. Where is the compassion for others? I smoked for 20 years & it was very hard to quit. Most people who smoke want to quit & are continuously trying to do so. The judgement from those who probably have never smoked is just awful and harsh. this 'we won' stuff I have read is beyond childish!

 

I must comment on what I have found. During the 16 cruises I have taken where smoking was allowed on balconies, I never actually smelt smoke ever on my balcony. However on the Royal cruise we just did in June on the Freedom I found myself & my children having to walk through clouds of smoke when on the lido deck going aft to the buffet area. yes, only one side allows smoking but I often found ourselves walking down that side.

 

In the end market forces will prevail though. If cruise lines cannot fill their cabins & loose revenue they will look at their policy & adjust it if they think the non smoking on balconies has caused this.

 

No matter the policy, let's be courteous to one another & every non smoker should be offering encouragement to all smokers to give up.

[Casino Comp Chick]

Well since the trend is toward non smoking and non smokers are a vocal majority I would think that the non smokers will insist that Ncl enforce the rules they themselves put forth

 

Ncl has this responsibility especially since they put it on themselves

 

If they don't enforce it then they are a total joke.

 

 

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You mean just like the chair hog rules?

[gooch47]

Keep telling yourself that....

 

We all know there is no such thing as chair hogs either. It is the policy of NCL that no one is allowed to do it.

 

Exactly.

[luvtheships]

Gosh there is so much hostility. Where is the compassion for others? I smoked for 20 years & it was very hard to quit. Most people who smoke want to quit & are continuously trying to do so. The judgement from those who probably have never smoked is just awful and harsh. this 'we won' stuff I have read is beyond childish!

 

I must comment on what I have found. During the 16 cruises I have taken where smoking was allowed on balconies, I never actually smelt smoke ever on my balcony. However on the Royal cruise we just did in June on the Freedom I found myself & my children having to walk through clouds of smoke when on the lido deck going aft to the buffet area. yes, only one side allows smoking but I often found ourselves walking down that side.

 

In the end market forces will prevail though. If cruise lines cannot fill their cabins & loose revenue they will look at their policy & adjust it if they think the non smoking on balconies has caused this.

 

No matter the policy, let's be courteous to one another & every non smoker should be offering encouragement to all smokers to give up.

 

Yes I agree all smokers should stop smoking

 

I highly encourage it

 

 

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[luvtheships]

You mean just like the chair hog rules?

 

Apples and oranges

 

Chair hogs won't cause the insurance premiums to rise

 

Again a complete analysis of the situation helps to understand things correctly

 

Finance 101

 

 

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[Cruzaholic41]

Where are some of you getting this idea the new smoking policy is due to insurance? Is that some sort of conspiracy theory you came up with to make an excuse for your beloved cruise line telling you smoking is no longer allowed on balconies? Cruise ships are insured by a consortium of insurers, and most lines/ships use the same underwriters. If insurance or SOLAS had anything to do with this, the policy would have been industry wide, and at the same time. To think the root cause is any other reason than passenger complaints is foolish.

 

This is because of smokers who cannot act decently in a public setting. Some smokers are courteous, but most aren't. An example - the last suite I stayed in had a surround sound stereo. I really wanted to crank it up and jam to some music but did I? No. because I knew it might bother the neighbors. But when it comes to smokers, all too often, I've had my breakfast ruined because neighbors are too discourteous to check their surroundings before lighting up.

 

And this thread is the epitome of those people. Some of you, especially those few of you who appear to have been on this thread all day yesterday, including one of you who I don't believe for one second is a non smoker, are exactly why this new policy is going into place. If you were the courteous type, you would be pissed off at those who ruined it for you, not those who are celebrating the new policy. But you're not, and you can only blame yourselves.

[JulieAF]

Where are some of you getting this idea the new smoking policy is due to insurance? Is that some sort of conspiracy theory you came up with to make an excuse for your beloved cruise line telling you smoking is no longer allowed on balconies? Cruise ships are insured by a consortium of insurers, and most lines/ships use the same underwriters. If insurance or SOLAS had anything to do with this, the policy would have been industry wide, and at the same time. To think the root cause is any other reason than passenger complaints is foolish.

 

This is because of smokers who cannot act decently in a public setting. Some smokers are courteous, but most aren't. An example - the last suite I stayed in had a surround sound stereo. I really wanted to crank it up and jam to some music but did I? No. because I knew it might bother the neighbors. But when it comes to smokers, all too often, I've had my breakfast ruined because neighbors are too discourteous to check their surroundings before lighting up.

 

And this thread is the epitome of those people. Some of you, especially those few of you who appear to have been on this thread all day yesterday, including one of you who I don't believe for one second is a non smoker, are exactly why this new policy is going into place. If you were the courteous type, you would be pissed off at those who ruined it for you, not those who are celebrating the new policy. But you're not, and you can only blame yourselves.

 

LIKE!!!!

I thought the same thing about that "non-smoker!" No way she's just standing up for the rights of smokers. No one believed that for a second.

[Beaver1975]

Apples and oranges

 

Chair hogs won't cause the insurance premiums to rise

 

Again a complete analysis of the situation helps to understand things correctly

 

Finance 101

 

 

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Why exactly are the insurance premiums going up, if that is truly what is in play here? Government regulation is what is truly in play here! SOLAS!!!

[luvtheships]

Why exactly are the insurance premiums going up, if that is truly what is in play here? Government regulation is what is truly in play here! SOLAS!!!

 

Has been discussed ad nauseum

And the belief is that 2 major cruiselines ccl and Ncl would not be making the smoking changes so close to each other if not for " other" reasons which may or may not be financial in nature.

 

Only posting what I have read here on cc

 

 

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[luvtheships]

Where are some of you getting this idea the new smoking policy is due to insurance? Is that some sort of conspiracy theory you came up with to make an excuse for your beloved cruise line telling you smoking is no longer allowed on balconies? Cruise ships are insured by a consortium of insurers, and most lines/ships use the same underwriters. If insurance or SOLAS had anything to do with this, the policy would have been industry wide, and at the same time. To think the root cause is any other reason than passenger complaints is foolish.

 

This is because of smokers who cannot act decently in a public setting. Some smokers are courteous, but most aren't. An example - the last suite I stayed in had a surround sound stereo. I really wanted to crank it up and jam to some music but did I? No. because I knew it might bother the neighbors. But when it comes to smokers, all too often, I've had my breakfast ruined because neighbors are too discourteous to check their surroundings before lighting up.

 

And this thread is the epitome of those people. Some of you, especially those few of you who appear to have been on this thread all day yesterday, including one of you who I don't believe for one second is a non smoker, are exactly why this new policy is going into place. If you were the courteous type, you would be pissed off at those who ruined it for you, not those who are celebrating the new policy. But you're not, and you can only blame yourselves.

 

Actually I hope you are correct and that it is all because if pax complaints

 

I am no fan of big government interference either but am intuitive enough to consider it a real possibility

 

However it makes me sort if giddy if the real truth is that complaints from non smoking pax is why all the smoking changes

 

I guess those pax complained to both Ncl and ccl then? And both cruiselines changed policy a week apart?

 

Hmmm. Now this is where I start to think there are other issues in play

 

The analytical skeptic in me I guess. Lol

 

 

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