Lizzie68 Posted August 13, 2014 #176 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I'm giving up too! Bad timing for me because I have one cruise booked direct with HAL and was planning on doing all my own directly with them in the future. Now I have to re-think that plan.:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelly Posted August 13, 2014 #177 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I'm giving up too! Bad timing for me because I have one cruise booked direct with HAL and was planning on doing all my own directly with them in the future. Now I have to re-think that plan.:( You can still book directly with HAL, if you want. But just use the cruise websites for research and dummy bookings to get the info you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowPrincess Posted August 13, 2014 #178 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Add me to the "displeased" group. Ugh. I will be using other sites to look at HAL cruises, I guess. And if I'm going to use someone else's web presence, I might then feel that I should book with them :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkacruiser Posted August 13, 2014 #179 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I have given up with HAL's booking site. Some cruise brokers and travel agent sites have much better websites than HAL for finding HAL cruise pricing, cabins, cabin categories, deck plans. The travel agent with whom I deal who is part of a very well known national bricks-n-mortar agency has assured me that "You are not bothering me" when I am asking her for information that used to be able to obtained on the HAL web site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverwillow Posted August 14, 2014 #180 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I have been watching a cruise for a couple of months now pondering on whether I should book it. I logged on and the new system in place is just an exercise in frustration. What were they thinking? I am looking at booking a triple and to have to enter all our details before getting a price is ridiculous. I am in Australia so I don't even know what the big sites are to use to get prices. Plus I think Holland America puts restrictions on us and we have to book directly with them or though more expensive local travel agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratheden Posted August 14, 2014 #181 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I have been watching a cruise for a couple of months now pondering on whether I should book it. I logged on and the new system in place is just an exercise in frustration. What were they thinking? I am looking at booking a triple and to have to enter all our details before getting a price is ridiculous. I am in Australia so I don't even know what the big sites are to use to get prices. Plus I think Holland America puts restrictions on us and we have to book directly with them or though more expensive local travel agents. I pay the same with an agent in Melbourne as I would online with HAL Australia. I have four cruises booked but I can only see one when logged on. I could see them all a couple of weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare erewhon Posted August 14, 2014 #182 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I have been watching a cruise for a couple of months now pondering on whether I should book it. I logged on and the new system in place is just an exercise in frustration. What were they thinking? I am looking at booking a triple and to have to enter all our details before getting a price is ridiculous. I am in Australia so I don't even know what the big sites are to use to get prices. Plus I think Holland America puts restrictions on us and we have to book directly with them or though more expensive local travel agents. I too am frustrated with the HAL website, as is our local Travel Agent. Sent HAL an e-mail asking how to access room category prices, without having to enter all the personal details. Have been told that they are working on the website. At present, I am doubting that HAL actually wants people to book a cruise on their ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Cruiser78 Posted August 14, 2014 #183 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) ...At present, I am doubting that HAL actually wants people to book a cruise on their ships. My guess is that by emulating the Carnival site, HAL wants to make it easiest to book guarantees, not individual cabins, and place pax wherever it is most convenient for them. Carnival makes it very easy (one click on the cabin choice page) to select "guarantee", and difficult (multiple clicks that expect you to already know the deck plan) to select an actual cabin. I am sorry to see HAL moving in this direction. Edited August 14, 2014 by Ryndam2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverwillow Posted August 14, 2014 #184 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I have found that the princess site has actually improved recently. At least I don't have to enter all our details to check a price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Cruiser78 Posted August 14, 2014 #185 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I have found that the princess site has actually improved recently. At least I don't have to enter all our details to check a price. A bit OT: Yes, I find it the most user-friendly of all cruise line sites that I frequent. Be sure to sign in, though, if you are a past passenger. You will often get better rates than those that show if you don't sign in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz chic Posted August 14, 2014 #186 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) Deleted Edited August 14, 2014 by cruz chic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TiogaCruiser Posted August 14, 2014 #187 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) I have found that the princess site has actually improved recently. At least I don't have to enter all our details to check a price. Interesting, and others have said the same ( that they have had to log in). That has not been my experience on my windows 8 machine. I am not logged in and can get prices. Have you just skipped putting your info in? I am only entering number of pax then selecting cabin. Totals with tax and fees are listed but not totaled. Open Cabins are color coded, probably by type and clicking on them gives price. To change locations in the ship use that tab and click/tap into that section. To change cabin type, use the tab to get there and select cabin type. I rather like the design but totals and cabin types (a,b,c) need to be added. And the summary showing cost of each category. An indication on the ship schematic from above should indicate the bow. Edited August 14, 2014 by TiogaCruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverwillow Posted August 14, 2014 #188 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I registered and logged in and at least it kept my details recorded so I could go back and change staterooms and categories so as to price compare. I still think it needs work and I will email my opinion to add to others voices of frustration and hopefully they will change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie68 Posted August 14, 2014 #189 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I just played around with it for an hour, and managed to get pricing two ways for the same cruise - with Mariner number, and without. (You need pen and paper to keep track of pricing). For the first time ever, there was a break for being a Mariner - $100 less. I still hate the new system, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguarstyper Posted August 14, 2014 Author #190 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I just played around with it for an hour, and managed to get pricing two ways for the same cruise - with Mariner number, and without. (You need pen and paper to keep track of pricing). For the first time ever, there was a break for being a Mariner - $100 less. I still hate the new system, though. The price break for Mariners depends largely on the cruise you are trying to book. Some cruises give Mariners good discounts, some give marginal discounts and some have no discounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie68 Posted August 14, 2014 #191 Share Posted August 14, 2014 The price break for Mariners depends largely on the cruise you are trying to book. Some cruises give Mariners good discounts, some give marginal discounts and some have no discounts. True. But previously I have found the price actually went UP when I added my mariner number.:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Scrapnana Posted August 14, 2014 #192 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Interesting, and others have said the same ( that they have had to log in). That has not been my experience on my windows 8 machine. I am not logged in and can get prices. Have you just skipped putting your info in? I am only entering number of pax then selecting cabin. Totals with tax and fees are listed but not totaled. This is what I get if I try to bypass putting in information. I also cannot get prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelly Posted August 15, 2014 #193 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) Count me in as a HAL fan who just sent a letter of complaint to Guest Relations concerning the website. I have seldom written complaints to companies, because I know they are going to do what they please and I have no voice in the matter. Complaining also raises my blood pressure and takes me out of my comfort zone, so I just sent a brief note which reads: Dear Guest Relations: Your new online booking site is dreadful, not user friendly and a total determent to future bookings. You are turning Hal regulars away from Holland America. We are choosing other cruise lines. I have two upcoming cruises booked with HAL. But, I recently booked a Celebrity Cruise for Fall of 2016 instead of HAL. My opinion means little to you, but I know dozens of HAL regulars who are being turned off by Holland America these days. It is unfortunate and should not be this way. I don't see things improving soon with Holland America. A pity. Edited August 15, 2014 by Chelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguarstyper Posted August 15, 2014 Author #194 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Chelly, I'm willing to bet you will get a response saying they are passing your comments along to their web development team. I would also bet they sent that canned response right after they deleted your email. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda&Vern Posted August 15, 2014 #195 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Interesting, and others have said the same ( that they have had to log in). That has not been my experience on my windows 8 machine. I am not logged in and can get prices. Have you just skipped putting your info in? I am only entering number of pax then selecting cabin. Totals with tax and fees are listed but not totaled. Open Cabins are color coded, probably by type and clicking on them gives price. To change locations in the ship use that tab and click/tap into that section. To change cabin type, use the tab to get there and select cabin type. I rather like the design but totals and cabin types (a,b,c) need to be added. And the summary showing cost of each category. An indication on the ship schematic from above should indicate the bow. My experience has been the same as yours. I do not fill out anything except number of pax, then start selecting cabin type. I am only running Windows 7. Not knowing what category the cabins are is driving me nuts! Now I'm looking and I do not see any "KEY" to the symbols on the room numbers. This could cause some campers who book on-line to be very unhappy in the future. (Steel rail, no tub, no view, etc.) Does anyone else see a symbol key? The absolute only way I can even try to look at current or future bookings is to have another window open with the HAL deck plan for that ship in front of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda&Vern Posted August 15, 2014 #196 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) This is what I get if I try to bypass putting in information. I also cannot get prices. Prices are before you get to that page. Prices are under the drop-down box with cabin number in it. It is per person price, and you have to look at the next line to get taxes and port fees. This is not a task to do without a calculator. :eek: Edited August 15, 2014 by Linda&Vern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted August 15, 2014 #197 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Prices are before you get to that page. Prices are under the drop-down box with cabin number in it. It is per person price, and you have to look at the next line to get taxes and port fees. This is not a task to do without a calculator. :eek:[/FONT] You got that right. It's really cumbersome - whereas before the total was there, port taxes first and then price per person. PITA. I do like all cabins showing (assuming they really are) but the rest is tedious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare erewhon Posted August 15, 2014 #198 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Prices are before you get to that page. Prices are under the drop-down box with cabin number in it. It is per person price, and you have to look at the next line to get taxes and port fees. This is not a task to do without a calculator. :eek: I will reluctantly return to the HAL site, & check if that is available here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare erewhon Posted August 15, 2014 #199 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Prices are before you get to that page. Prices are under the drop-down box with cabin number in it. It is per person price, and you have to look at the next line to get taxes and port fees. This is not a task to do without a calculator. :eek: Do you mean that the prices are available in a drop down box on the page with the photos of the cabin categories? All I can see to click on is "View Stateroom details" and "Stateroom Options", and "know the stateroom you want?" When I enter a stateroom number, and the room is available it immediately opens to the page for Bed Arrangement and Dining preference. There is no drop down box below the cabin number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie68 Posted August 15, 2014 #200 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I will reluctantly return to the HAL site, & check if that is available here. It's to the right of the deck plan on the page where you select the cabin. It has the cabin number (that is the drop-down box) and underneath is the price per person. Then you have to add the taxes etc which you will find under the price. Get your handy calculator and add it up, then times 2. And this is progress?:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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