Benh Posted November 19, 2022 #5401 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Club Orange sounds good. Anyone here have experience with it? https://www.hollandamerica.com/en_US/dining/club-orange.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare terrydtx Posted November 20, 2022 #5402 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Benh said: Club Orange sounds good. Anyone here have experience with it? https://www.hollandamerica.com/en_US/dining/club-orange.html Don't waste your money, unless you are in a Pinnacle class ships (Koningsdam, Nieuw Statendam and Rotterdam). All other older ships have a roped off reserved section in MDR for dining with only one entree not on standard MDR menu. Pinnacle class ships do have a dedicated CO dining room, but you still only have the one extra entree item with the standard MDR menus. The one cabin upgrade is only within the category you booked, ie: you do not go from a standard balcony to a Signature or other suites categories. The concierge is totally useless. Club Orange in MHO is a waste of money. This is HAL's lame attempt to compete with NCL's Haven. MSC's Yacht Club and Celebrity's Retreat. Edited November 20, 2022 by terrydtx 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tensixmom Posted November 20, 2022 #5403 Share Posted November 20, 2022 18 hours ago, boeckli said: It should be listed on your boarding pass (it is on mine at least) Sadly, not on mine. I did get an updated boarding pass today with my boarding time pushed back (now to 2:30!) but no dining notation. 18 hours ago, Chickadee910 said: Go to your mail box type in no reply Holland and see if it might be there Tried that... no luck but thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted November 20, 2022 #5404 Share Posted November 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, tensixmom said: Sadly, not on mine. I did get an updated boarding pass today with my boarding time pushed back (now to 2:30!) but no dining notation. Tried that... no luck but thank you. Page 1 of the booking confirmation for our upcoming cruise. Confirmed dining arrangements noted at the end: Below are the details for your 7-Day Western Caribbean cruise. We look forward to welcoming you on board soon! CRUISE CONFIRMATION Booking #: XXXXXX Statement Date: Sep 30, 2022 Booking Status: Active PAYMENT SCHEDULE Currency: U.S. Dollars Deposit Due: Paid Final Payment Due Date: CRUISE DETAILS Embark Date: Ship: Nieuw Statendam Voyage: From Port: Fort Lauderdale To Port: Fort Lauderdale Duration: 7 Category: L Stateroom: Bed Requested: Queen Bed Dining:Confirmed Early, Request Table for 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benh Posted November 20, 2022 #5405 Share Posted November 20, 2022 I read a recent review of a Holland America cruise that claimed that HAL no longer uses butter in making their pastries as a cost-cutting measure. Can anyone confirm or deny this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandwoman Posted November 20, 2022 #5406 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Benh said: I read a recent review of a Holland America cruise that claimed that HAL no longer uses butter in making their pastries as a cost-cutting measure. Can anyone confirm or deny this? What do they use instead of butter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted November 20, 2022 #5407 Share Posted November 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Benh said: I read a recent review of a Holland America cruise that claimed that HAL no longer uses butter in making their pastries as a cost-cutting measure. Can anyone confirm or deny this? I would need more information. Sounds like a statement that needs to provide a source, otherwise should be dismissed as hearsay or unsubstantiated rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ski ww Posted November 21, 2022 #5408 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Do we care what they use as long as it still taste's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandwoman Posted November 21, 2022 #5409 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 hours ago, ski ww said: Do we care what they use as long as it still taste's good. Yes. If they use bacon fat or lard, some people (like me) can't eat it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benh Posted November 21, 2022 #5410 Share Posted November 21, 2022 My first time sailing on HAL is coming up in May, with a dream cruise to Alaska with my dear old Mom. We booked that early late October, and so far in advance. Our deal seemed fairly good and included OBC. Still happy with the booking and am looking forward to it. Since then I've been waisting some time fantasizing about other possible cruises, looking at the routes and rates on HAL's site. One thing I noticed, that I suppose is obvious, is that there are some really good rates on cruises that are about to sail but aren't yet full. What are the pros and cons of booking only a few weeks before sailing? One negative I can think of right away is that the savings on the cruise might be eaten up by higher plane fares. Any other pros or cons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare terrydtx Posted November 21, 2022 #5411 Share Posted November 21, 2022 19 hours ago, islandwoman said: What do they use instead of butter? If this is true, I would think there are many good margarines that would be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted November 21, 2022 #5412 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, terrydtx said: If this is true, I would think there are many good margarines that would be just fine. Some people don’t like to use hydrogenated oils so they (me) would object to falsely labeling margarine as butter. In cooking kitchens generally substitute various oils for butter but not margarine Edited November 21, 2022 by Mary229 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare terrydtx Posted November 21, 2022 #5413 Share Posted November 21, 2022 46 minutes ago, Mary229 said: Some people don’t like to use hydrogenated oils so they (me) would object to falsely labeling margarine as butter. In cooking kitchens generally substitute various oils for butter but not margarine For some people who are lactose intolerant not using butter is preferable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted November 21, 2022 #5414 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, terrydtx said: For some people who are lactose intolerant not using butter is preferable. Yes but I am speaking of mislabeling. If I ask for butter at dinner they shouldn’t give me margarine. A lactose intolerant person would not ask for butter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare terrydtx Posted November 21, 2022 #5415 Share Posted November 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mary229 said: Yes but I am speaking of mislabeling. If I ask for butter at dinner they shouldn’t give me margarine. A lactose intolerant person would not ask for butter. The butter comment by the poster had nothing to do with what they serve with your meals, it was that they supposedly are not using butter in their pastries. For lactose intolerant people, using real butter in pastries means they cannot eat the pastry. My dear granddaughter is so lactose intolerant, on a scale of 1 to 10, she is a 12 and she cannot safely eat most breads and pastries. When she travels with us it is real challenging to find what she can eat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted November 21, 2022 #5416 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, terrydtx said: The butter comment by the poster had nothing to do with what they serve with your meals, it was that they supposedly are not using butter in their pastries. For lactose intolerant people, using real butter in pastries means they cannot eat the pastry. My dear granddaughter is so lactose intolerant, on a scale of 1 to 10, she is a 12 and she cannot safely eat most breads and pastries. When she travels with us it is real challenging to find what she can eat. You should ask then. Many pastries are made with coconut oil and trans oils. Margarine is not used in commercial baking. Lard would be cheaper and more healthful than either coconut or trans oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tensixmom Posted November 21, 2022 #5417 Share Posted November 21, 2022 On 11/20/2022 at 8:04 AM, KroozNut said: Page 1 of the booking confirmation for our upcoming cruise. Confirmed dining arrangements noted at the end: Below are the details for your 7-Day Western Caribbean cruise. We look forward to welcoming you on board soon! CRUISE CONFIRMATION Booking #: XXXXXX Statement Date: Sep 30, 2022 Booking Status: Active PAYMENT SCHEDULE Currency: U.S. Dollars Deposit Due: Paid Final Payment Due Date: CRUISE DETAILS Embark Date: Ship: Nieuw Statendam Voyage: From Port: Fort Lauderdale To Port: Fort Lauderdale Duration: 7 Category: L Stateroom: Bed Requested: Queen Bed Dining:Confirmed Early, Request Table for 6 I was able to get it resent to me. Looks like I have late dining which I am reading may cause an issue seeing any of the shows due to the MDR being slower than usual... we shall see! Thank you all! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ski ww Posted November 21, 2022 #5418 Share Posted November 21, 2022 8 hours ago, islandwoman said: Yes. If they use bacon fat or lard, some people (like me) can't eat it. Yes, but then it would not taste good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted November 21, 2022 #5419 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, ski ww said: Yes, but then it would not taste good. IMHO, it would taste better! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKCruiser007 Posted November 22, 2022 #5420 Share Posted November 22, 2022 6 hours ago, tensixmom said: I was able to get it resent to me. Looks like I have late dining which I am reading may cause an issue seeing any of the shows due to the MDR being slower than usual... we shall see! Thank you all! If you have late (main) dining, you can easily see the show first, and have time to arrive just in time for dinner. I actually prefer this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted November 22, 2022 #5421 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, SKCruiser007 said: If you have late (main) dining, you can easily see the show first, and have time to arrive just in time for dinner. I actually prefer this. Depends on how one defines 'just in time' for dinner. IMHO, if you're not at least 5 minutes early for your set time, you're late. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tensixmom Posted November 22, 2022 #5422 Share Posted November 22, 2022 10 hours ago, SKCruiser007 said: If you have late (main) dining, you can easily see the show first, and have time to arrive just in time for dinner. I actually prefer this. OK we will try this! Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwj Posted November 23, 2022 #5423 Share Posted November 23, 2022 On 11/19/2022 at 7:37 PM, terrydtx said: Don't waste your money, unless you are in a Pinnacle class ships (Koningsdam, Nieuw Statendam and Rotterdam). All other older ships have a roped off reserved section in MDR for dining with only one entree not on standard MDR menu. Pinnacle class ships do have a dedicated CO dining room, but you still only have the one extra entree item with the standard MDR menus. The one cabin upgrade is only within the category you booked, ie: you do not go from a standard balcony to a Signature or other suites categories. The concierge is totally useless. Club Orange in MHO is a waste of money. This is HAL's lame attempt to compete with NCL's Haven. MSC's Yacht Club and Celebrity's Retreat. This is NOT necessarily the case. On a tender-port intensive cruise there is value in club orange. More importantly, there is value in the room upgrade. We have successfully booked a lowest cost balcony room, and then upgraded to a more desired balcony room. We saved more money in the room upgrade than club orange cost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavictoria Posted November 26, 2022 #5424 Share Posted November 26, 2022 On 11/20/2022 at 7:26 AM, Benh said: I read a recent review of a Holland America cruise that claimed that HAL no longer uses butter in making their pastries as a cost-cutting measure. Can anyone confirm or deny this? I kinda doubt it but, hey, times are tough. If anything they would use a mixture of butter and shortening since removing all the butter would change the taste too much. To the people suggesting lard - commercial kitchens don't use lard since that excludes vegetarians as well as anyone who keeps halal or kosher from eating the pastries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted November 26, 2022 #5425 Share Posted November 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, lavictoria said: I kinda doubt it but, hey, times are tough. If anything they would use a mixture of butter and shortening since removing all the butter would change the taste too much. To the people suggesting lard - commercial kitchens don't use lard since that excludes vegetarians as well as anyone who keeps halal or kosher from eating the pastries. Being from Canada, you've probably never experienced real Mexican food. That being said, the use of lard in tortillas is (unfortunately) banned in countries other than Mexico, but you can really tell the difference in the taste. Mexican tortillas are 100% better than anything north of the border. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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