Trekker954 Posted January 15, 2015 #301 Share Posted January 15, 2015 So he was climbing on the life boats? That was allegedly his statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindy Posted January 15, 2015 #302 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) So he was climbing on the life boats? If that's true, then how foolish is the media yammering on about cruise line responsibility when this guy was either a) drunk enough, or b) stupid enough to climb on the life boats? There are some things you just can't prevent.:rolleyes: Edited January 15, 2015 by Cindy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley4 Posted January 15, 2015 #303 Share Posted January 15, 2015 What's the old saying? Don't mess with stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryano Posted January 15, 2015 Author #304 Share Posted January 15, 2015 If that's true, then how foolish is the media yammering on about cruise line responsibility Thats the media for you! Never let facts get in the way of a good story. :) They either dont realize how stupid it makes them look or they just dont care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Turtles06 Posted January 15, 2015 #305 Share Posted January 15, 2015 What's the old saying? Don't mess with stupid. I believe the saying is "you can't fix stupid." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
At Sea 4Ever Posted January 15, 2015 #306 Share Posted January 15, 2015 If the passenger was responsible for himself going over then criminal charges should be brought upon him. He risked the safety of those who had to come to his rescue and also interrupted the ship's itinerary which impedes on many aspects of the cruise and cruise line. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted January 15, 2015 #307 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I've come to realize crew members as are much gossipers as we all are. Ever play the "telephone game" in grade school where you whisper something to the kid next to you in a big circle then the last person says out loud what they heard?....and how much it varied from the initial thing said? On the celebrity boards for example, crew were telling people that Bistro on 5 was converting to a suite restaurant, this even after a full X staff meeting telling them this was not happening, the Suite restaurant was being prepared in an area adjacent to MDR. As early as 2 weeks ago, staff from Sillouhette were telling guests that during Sillie's weeklong drydock to repair an azipod, it was getting Cellar Masers converted to the new GastroBar they have on Equinox and is coming to Eclipse this spring. Nope, didn't happen, no major changes done other than fix the azipods and some routine hull maintenance and cleaning. I listened (just last week) as a staff told the person standing next to me that the Freedom was the originally the same ship as the Explorer, but stretched. :eek: :eek: They then said that the Quantum Class is the same ship class and design as the Oasis class:eek::eek: No telling where incorrect info gets started. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted January 15, 2015 #308 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I listened (just last week) as a staff told the person standing next to me that the Freedom was the originally the same ship as the Explorer, but stretched. :eek: :eek: They then said that the Quantum Class is the same ship class and design as the Oasis class:eek::eek: No telling where incorrect info gets started. M Funny. Actually, I think Quantum is closer to Solstice class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starry Eyes Posted January 15, 2015 #309 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I listened (just last week) as a staff told the person standing next to me that the Freedom was the originally the same ship as the Explorer, but stretched. :eek: :eek: They then said that the Quantum Class is the same ship class and design as the Oasis class:eek::eek: No telling where incorrect info gets started. M I can see how one could opine Freedom class is rather similar to Voyager class, but bigger with some extra feature like flow rider. If there might be a language barrier between the crew member and I, I'd want to think something was lost in that barrier. But Quantum=Oasis....um, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartbda Posted January 15, 2015 #310 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I listened (just last week) as a staff told the person standing next to me that the Freedom was the originally the same ship as the Explorer, but stretched. :eek: :eek: They then said that the Quantum Class is the same ship class and design as the Oasis class:eek::eek: No telling where incorrect info gets started. M Seems any number of times it's the crew. Someone gave an update on the child that almost drowned on the Oasis saying SHE was doing well. When the poster was questioned, they said staff, and even an officer, said it was a little girl, when in fact, it's a boy. Someone else has said staff told them Royal might be planning to build a new smaller ship to fit under the bridges when sailing out of Baltimore. As much as I would like to see that, I will not be looking up in the sky for pigs.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reney313 Posted January 15, 2015 #311 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Climbing on the life boats is certainly a big change of story from being washed off board at the bow of the ship from a "big wave". lol I can see someone trying to show off to friends drunk and climbing on a life boat...but by yourself? I've been around a lot of very drunk people (I'm a former bar owner so little surprises me) and normally they preserve those stupid drunk induced ideas when they are around others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisiamc Posted January 15, 2015 #312 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I can see it now, the new pre-boarding questionaire: ___ Have you been sick in the past 7 days? ___ Do you have a death wish? ___ Have you vomited in the past 7 days? ___ What is your IQ? ___ Have you had diarrhea in the past 7 days? ___ Do you have an attorney on retainer? ___ Have you been to Africa in the past year? ___ Are you considered stupid by your friends/relatives? ___ Can you swim? ___ Are the Jacka$$ movies among your favorites? Hahahahaha! Love this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starry Eyes Posted January 15, 2015 #313 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Climbing on the life boats is certainly a big change of story from being washed off board at the bow of the ship from a "big wave". lol I can see someone trying to show off to friends drunk and climbing on a life boat...but by yourself? I've been around a lot of very drunk people (I'm a former bar owner so little surprises me) and normally they preserve those stupid drunk induced ideas when they are around others. As a former bar owner, you'd be qualified to assess that! Your statement does, though, make wonder is some of them might do crazy solo stuff to take a selfie to share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelerThom Posted January 15, 2015 #314 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I listened (just last week) as a staff told the person standing next to me that the Freedom was the originally the same ship as the Explorer, but stretched. :eek: :eek: They then said that the Quantum Class is the same ship class and design as the Oasis class:eek::eek:... I'm not buying Quantum and Oasis, but IMO the staff member is correct about Explorer and Freedom, as long as you understand the stretch was in the design phase, and not an after the fact cut and stretch. No need for the :eek: :eek: on that one. Explorer is in the first build of Voyager ships (Voyager 1999, Explorer 2000, Adventure 2001). Design changes after that to the balconies, various room sizes, etc lead to the later Voyager ships (Navigator 2002, Mariner 2003). This was followed by Project Ultra-Voyager which became Freedom 2006. If you look at the hull and deck plans for Mariner and Freedom they are very similar except for the 92 foot stretch that introduced the H2O zone and various other changes to public decks and more cabins. Thom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted January 15, 2015 #315 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I can see how one could opine Freedom class is rather similar to Voyager class, but bigger with some extra feature like flow rider. If there might be a language barrier between the crew member and I, I'd want to think something was lost in that barrier. But Quantum=Oasis....um, no. I too like to give a benefit to others, but not in this case. The staff was an American performer, so no language barrier. Yes, the Freedom can be described as a larger Explorer, but the exact words were, "the Freedom is the same class as the Explorer. The ship was cut and a section was added," We were on the Explorer, and the passenger asked about the Freedom, also at the same port. I guess it is possible the staff was confused and was thinking of the Enchantment, which of course is not a Voyager or Freedom Class but was in fact, cut in half and had a section added. The point is not to argue the similarities/differences of the classes of ships but to point out that even the staff can give incorrect information. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelerThom Posted January 15, 2015 #316 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I too like to give a benefit to others, but not in this case. The staff was an American performer, so no language barrier. Yes, the Freedom can be described as a larger Explorer, but the exact words were, "the Freedom is the same class as the Explorer. The ship was cut and a section was added," We were on the Explorer, and the passenger asked about the Freedom, also at the same port. I guess it is possible the staff was confused and was thinking of the Enchantment, which of course is not a Voyager or Freedom Class but was in fact, cut in half and had a section added. The point is not to argue the similarities/differences of the classes of ships but to point out that even the staff can give incorrect information. Yet you originally saidI listened (just last week) as a staff told the person standing next to me that the Freedom was the originally the same ship as the Explorer, but stretched. :eek: :eek:which in and of itself is not incorrect as Freedom is based on the same ship plans stretch during design. We ALL can give incorrect information:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted January 15, 2015 #317 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Oh brother. Sometimes I wonder why I post. The point is that staff can sometimes give a passenger incorrect info. Lesson Learned. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starry Eyes Posted January 15, 2015 #318 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I too like to give a benefit to others, but not in this case. The staff was an American performer, so no language barrier. Yes, the Freedom can be described as a larger Explorer, but the exact words were, "the Freedom is the same class as the Explorer. The ship was cut and a section was added," We were on the Explorer, and the passenger asked about the Freedom, also at the same port. I guess it is possible the staff was confused and was thinking of the Enchantment, which of course is not a Voyager or Freedom Class but was in fact, cut in half and had a section added. The point is not to argue the similarities/differences of the classes of ships but to point out that even the staff can give incorrect information. M I understood your point about misinformation that can emanate from staff and crew. I agree; it happens Clearly language was not the issue with the episode you reported; instead it sounds like knowledge deficit. With such limited ship knowledge, one wonders why this entertainer did not keep mouth closed. Hope you found the some entertainment value in that overheard conversation:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted January 15, 2015 #319 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I too like to give a benefit to others, but not in this case. The staff was an American performer, so no language barrier. Yes, the Freedom can be described as a larger Explorer, but the exact words were, "the Freedom is the same class as the Explorer. The ship was cut and a section was added," We were on the Explorer, and the passenger asked about the Freedom, also at the same port. I guess it is possible the staff was confused and was thinking of the Enchantment, which of course is not a Voyager or Freedom Class but was in fact, cut in half and had a section added. The point is not to argue the similarities/differences of the classes of ships but to point out that even the staff can give incorrect information. M Well, at least they both begin with "E". :rolleyes: :eek: :D Seems any number of times it's the crew. Someone gave an update on the child that almost drowned on the Oasis saying SHE was doing well. When the poster was questioned, they said staff, and even an officer, said it was a little girl, when in fact, it's a boy. Someone else has said staff told them Royal might be planning to build a new smaller ship to fit under the bridges when sailing out of Baltimore. As much as I would like to see that, I will not be looking up in the sky for pigs.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartbda Posted January 15, 2015 #320 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk. :p Then there's this.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted January 15, 2015 #321 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) I listened (just last week) as a staff told the person standing next to me that the Freedom was the originally the same ship as the Explorer, but stretched. :eek: :eek: M For the most part that is correct. The Freedom class is basically a stretched Voyager class ship. The Freedom-class ships are similar in design and layout to the earlier second-generation Voyager class, including an ice skating rink and a 400-foot (120 m) mall named the Royal Promenade, featuring pubs, shops, arcades, bars, and a 24-hour Cafe Promenade. New features added to the Freedom class include the FlowRider surf park, cantilevered whirlpools, a full-size boxing ring, and the H2O Zone waterpark. http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1802757 Overall, the ships are more alike than different. http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1273586 The Freedom class ships are a stretched version of the Voyager class ships. Edited January 15, 2015 by Cuizer2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceanblue1 Posted January 16, 2015 #322 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Was there an incident with a passenger overboard from Oasis ? And picked up by a Princess ship? Anyone hear about this? What happened? Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBytes Posted January 16, 2015 #323 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Picked up by Disney ship yes: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2148213 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTownNick Posted January 16, 2015 #324 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I heard the guy later recanted his story and said he jumped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidygirl Posted January 16, 2015 #325 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I'd like to hear the truth! When I told my DH about this he just laughed and said the guy was really drunk or doing something stupid! Now if I went overboard I'd die on the way down from fear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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