elliair Posted May 2, 2015 #26 Share Posted May 2, 2015 My husband spent several years on a Navy aircraft carrier. Though it wasn't a "luxury" cruiser, chipping paint was a constant maintenance thing. I've been on many cruise liners and there was always constant maintenance going on. Railings being varnished, paint being chipped and repainted. Plenty of signs around stating "wet paint or wet varnish." That didn't bother us, it showed us that they were maintaining the ship. Never saw it on the Crown. Maybe because they were going into dry dock and didn't want to bother with it because of the embarkation from hell, or the premaintenance was being done such as sanded railings, etc. Don't really care what you think I think of the Crown, just stating our experience. We just think Princess failed on this cruise. I hope the ship gets into tip top shape for all you future cruisers. Enjoy the hotdog meatloaf. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robandana Posted May 2, 2015 #27 Share Posted May 2, 2015 I was on the Crown in December and she looked great to me! Not tired at all. Of course, I don't look for flaws... I don't particularly look for flaws but I feel its due for a refurbishment, I guess Princess thinks so too...hence her trip to the dry dock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo222 Posted May 2, 2015 #28 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Maybe because they were going into dry dock and didn't want to bother with it because of the embarkation from hell Yes, I'm sure they decided what maintenance needed to be done, based on how smootly embarcation went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Sox Fan Posted May 3, 2015 #29 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I was just checking the Crown bridge cam, and it was a view of the ship going into the dry dock....pretty cool. We will be on the Crown May 16th :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted May 3, 2015 #30 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Vickie-Bernie just returned from the Crown and said that MUTS is being replaced. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vickie_bernie Posted May 3, 2015 #31 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) just got off the Crown today. Workers have been doing work below the public decks for a few weeks now doing mechanical stuff. Last night in Victoria as i wandered around up on the Sun deck I noticed the indoor outdoor carpet on one side was really cushiony like it was new, the other side was still old. I can't confirm if this was done this past week or not as I didn't spend too much time up there. But what shocked me was when I turned to the MUTS screen and noticed all the bulbs out, it was just a shell with the spaces for the bulbs. They were removed some time during the day. Looked cool, just wish I would of had my camera with me. It had been looking bad with many black spots. I was informed that the MUTS on this ship is now 9 years old and they don't make the replacement parts for it anymore and it was always an issue when something went on it trying to make a fix work on it. So MUTS is being replaced. The Horizon Court is getting streamlined like many of the other ships have it with straighter lines for the table sections and a station set up outside the main area that serves desserts at night, and pastry toast in the morning. The coffee bar in the International cafe is changing too. It will be more focussed now on coffee. Adding another espresso machine with more defined areas for service. There will be more flow from the food area in the IC to the coffee area. The IC bar will no longer have a full bar with alcohol service. Instead Vines bar will be expanded and will have full service for all bar drinks. So no more going to vines and being directed to IC bar for a mixed drink. The Crew's Mess will be renovated. And the usual stuff, carpets, upholstery, cleaning, re tiling etc. Crew have been assigned duties during dry dock. Some of the crew I spoke with were doing things like fire watch, key runner, serving the crew/workers in dining rooms as HC is closed, moving furniture, stewards are still doing cabin cleaning and cleaning. Most crew will still have full shifts but not as long as a normal cruise. They have told me that many are getting a full 48 hours off during the dry dock. However they will not be allowed to leave the city boundaries due to their work permits makes them limited to where they can go. They are not allowed to travel to Vancouver. The ship is drydocked in Esquimalt just outside Victoria. They will have a free shuttle for the crew to head into the city and back. One big issues is although they are still paid they make most of their money from tips and they will not be collecting any during these two weeks. And a few said they know they will be spending more money off the ship too so they are budgeting. We thought the ship looked pretty good too, sure there are areas that needed some TLC but nothing bad and certainly as good and most definately better than our four star hotel we stayed at the night prior to the cruise. We found the cabin to be one of the areas that was needing some work. Bedding/tb/tiles in bathroom/mirror/cupboard/drawers/wall showing signs of wear and tear. I hope Princess shows pictures of the ship. I know they left Vancouver as soon as we were all off and had to make it to Victoria and drydock before sundown. Hope this helps. Vickie Edited May 3, 2015 by vickie_bernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted May 3, 2015 #32 Share Posted May 3, 2015 It all sounds excellent, thanks for the updates. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherryf Posted May 3, 2015 #33 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Thanks for the update, Vickie-Bernie! I'll be on her July 25. Good to hear about the MUTS replacement and the Horizon Court upgrade. I can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IECalCruiser Posted May 3, 2015 #34 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) Vickie, Thanks for the updates. Glad they are replacing the MUTS screen as it was in poor shape. MUTS was introduced on the Caribbean. Wonder what's the shape her MUTS screen! The revised HC is a good change as we have had it on the Sapphire and the Grand. The best news is the modifications to the IC. I know that the IC was introduced on the Crown but it was so awkward getting coffee from the bar on the Crown and Emerald. Haven't been on the Ruby but it would have the same issue. The IC layout with dedicated coffee area next to the food is much better on the retrofitted Grand class ships such as the Grand, Golden, Star, Caribbean and Sapphire. The Layout of Vines on the Golden, Star and Caribbean is still the best in the fleet IMHO. Edited May 3, 2015 by IECalCruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimd909 Posted May 3, 2015 Author #35 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Thank you vickie_bernie for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted May 3, 2015 #36 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I know that the IC was introduced on the Crown but it was so awkward getting coffee from the bar on the Crown and Emerald. The Emerald now has a separate section of the IC dedicated to the coffee/tea/hot chocolate beverage ordering. The bar with sodas and alcoholic beverages is another counter near the IC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vickie_bernie Posted May 3, 2015 #37 Share Posted May 3, 2015 also they are removing the mini golf and putting down flat indoor outdoor and making more a multi purpose outdoor space that can be used for a few things including bocce ball. The old system on the Crown is similar to the Emerald. With the new system it will be very different than the current Emerald. If you want a liquor drink after the drydock you will have to go to the bar in Vines. Similar set up as Royal and Regal where Vines' bar is more prominent and serves it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo222 Posted May 3, 2015 #38 Share Posted May 3, 2015 If you want a liquor drink after the drydock you will have to go to the bar in Vines. It is nice to have an actual bar open 24x7. It sounds like this eliminates that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IECalCruiser Posted May 3, 2015 #39 Share Posted May 3, 2015 The Emerald now has a separate section of the IC dedicated to the coffee/tea/hot chocolate beverage ordering. The bar with sodas and alcoholic beverages is another counter near the IC. That must be somewhat new as we were on the Emerald two years ago. They weren't doing that on the Crown two months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Musky Ike Posted May 3, 2015 #40 Share Posted May 3, 2015 also they are removing the mini golf and putting down flat indoor outdoor and making more a multi purpose outdoor space that can be used for a few things including bocce ball. :eek: OMG no more putt-putt . Might have to cancel our reservation.....just kidding :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted May 3, 2015 #41 Share Posted May 3, 2015 :eek: OMG no more putt-putt . Might have to cancel our reservation.....just kidding :rolleyes: As on the Emerald: Bocce area Croquet area Golf area (about four holes on a flat surface) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted May 3, 2015 #42 Share Posted May 3, 2015 :eek: OMG no more putt-putt . Might have to cancel our reservation.....just kidding :rolleyes: I don't know...Bocce Balls smashing on the deck above Skywalkers fills in quite well I think. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickEk Posted May 3, 2015 #43 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I don't know...Bocce Balls smashing on the deck above Skywalkers fills in quite well I think. :rolleyes: Can't be any worse than the basketball court on Sapphire Princess... :p:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IECalCruiser Posted May 3, 2015 #44 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Can't be any worse than the basketball court on Sapphire Princess... :p:)The surface was already failing a few months after it was installed [emoji33] It looked pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted May 3, 2015 #45 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) Can't be any worse than the basketball court on Sapphire Princess... :p:) We heard that on our Sapphire cruise too. :( Try carrying on a conversation at the PES lounge when balls are smashing down overhead for 2 hours. It was ridiculous. :( Edited May 3, 2015 by Colo Cruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliair Posted May 3, 2015 #46 Share Posted May 3, 2015 just got off the Crown today. Workers have been doing work below the public decks for a few weeks now doing mechanical stuff. Last night in Victoria as i wandered around up on the Sun deck I noticed the indoor outdoor carpet on one side was really cushiony like it was new, the other side was still old. I can't confirm if this was done this past week or not as I didn't spend too much time up there. But what shocked me was when I turned to the MUTS screen and noticed all the bulbs out, it was just a shell with the spaces for the bulbs. They were removed some time during the day. Looked cool, just wish I would of had my camera with me. It had been looking bad with many black spots. I was informed that the MUTS on this ship is now 9 years old and they don't make the replacement parts for it anymore and it was always an issue when something went on it trying to make a fix work on it. So MUTS is being replaced. The Horizon Court is getting streamlined like many of the other ships have it with straighter lines for the table sections and a station set up outside the main area that serves desserts at night, and pastry toast in the morning. The coffee bar in the International cafe is changing too. It will be more focussed now on coffee. Adding another espresso machine with more defined areas for service. There will be more flow from the food area in the IC to the coffee area. The IC bar will no longer have a full bar with alcohol service. Instead Vines bar will be expanded and will have full service for all bar drinks. So no more going to vines and being directed to IC bar for a mixed drink. The Crew's Mess will be renovated. And the usual stuff, carpets, upholstery, cleaning, re tiling etc. Crew have been assigned duties during dry dock. Some of the crew I spoke with were doing things like fire watch, key runner, serving the crew/workers in dining rooms as HC is closed, moving furniture, stewards are still doing cabin cleaning and cleaning. Most crew will still have full shifts but not as long as a normal cruise. They have told me that many are getting a full 48 hours off during the dry dock. However they will not be allowed to leave the city boundaries due to their work permits makes them limited to where they can go. They are not allowed to travel to Vancouver. The ship is drydocked in Esquimalt just outside Victoria. They will have a free shuttle for the crew to head into the city and back. One big issues is although they are still paid they make most of their money from tips and they will not be collecting any during these two weeks. And a few said they know they will be spending more money off the ship too so they are budgeting. We thought the ship looked pretty good too, sure there are areas that needed some TLC but nothing bad and certainly as good and most definately better than our four star hotel we stayed at the night prior to the cruise. We found the cabin to be one of the areas that was needing some work. Bedding/tb/tiles in bathroom/mirror/cupboard/drawers/wall showing signs of wear and tear. I hope Princess shows pictures of the ship. I know they left Vancouver as soon as we were all off and had to make it to Victoria and drydock before sundown. Hope this helps. Vickie Well it sounds like they already knew way in advance what needs replacing and TLC. I was feeling as though I wouldn't sail on her again due to our experience, and the areas you stated for renovation will enhance the cruising experience on her. I just booked the Island Princess today for Panama for December. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vickie_bernie Posted May 4, 2015 #47 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Well it sounds like they already knew way in advance what needs replacing and TLC. I was feeling as though I wouldn't sail on her again due to our experience, and the areas you stated for renovation will enhance the cruising experience on her. I just booked the Island Princess today for Panama for December. :p we are sailing the Island in october for a month, I am looking forward to seeing the renos there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnvcanada Posted May 4, 2015 #48 Share Posted May 4, 2015 the movies under the stars screen will be completely replaced. the system will be ungraded, same system as the royal and regal have. though no movies on demand like the diamond, contracted workers were getting on the ship as we were getting off. they will be stayed in cabins on plaza deck. hopefully they will replaced the old carpet that doesn't match. it looked like some was like the diamond and sapphire that went through drydock last year and this spring. most of the work will be required work, though. really felt sorry for the crew, because of the pay issue, no tips, which is a large part of there pay for two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmoo here Posted May 4, 2015 #49 Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) Glad to hear they're replacing the MUTS screen. You can see some of the bad panels in this picture (taken 4/25) Debarkation day the panels were all gone (5/2) Edited May 4, 2015 by Shmoo here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdjam Posted May 4, 2015 #50 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Also off Crown Princess in Vancouver on 5/2. As said, I did not notice any huge areas where repair was needed. The carpet in my cabin needed to be replaced as it was stained but otherwise the cabin was fine. I didn't find the quality of the ship itself any different than any other Princess vessel that I've been on recently. I'm not a fan of MUTS so I wouldn't care if they took the whole thing down. I had no issues with embarkation, so I'm not sure what that was about. I arrived at the pier in San Pedro at about 13:00 and was on board shortly after. I flew out of Vancouver at about 14:00 on May 2 and Crown Princess was underway to Victoria at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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