Lizzie68 Posted May 11, 2015 #1 Share Posted May 11, 2015 So sad, a huge fin whale was killed by a cruise ship near Vancouver. The captain of the Westerdam explained how they are very careful when whales are spotted, but perhaps this was unavoidable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summer slope Posted May 11, 2015 #2 Share Posted May 11, 2015 So sad, a huge fin whale was killed by a cruise ship near Vancouver. The captain of the Westerdam explained how they are very careful when whales are spotted, but perhaps this was unavoidable. That is sad, but I'm sure unavoidable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie68 Posted May 11, 2015 Author #3 Share Posted May 11, 2015 The story is evolving, and now they don't know yet if it was actually killed by the cruise ship or carried in by it. There are so many whales very close to land here, and quite recently a pod of Orcas came right up into Burrard Inlet, which is where the cruise ship terminal is. It really is sad to see one end up like this, especially a Fin whale - second largest in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted May 11, 2015 #4 Share Posted May 11, 2015 There has been a large number of right whales in Cape Cod, MA this spring and the boats/ships are all so carefully regulated in efforts to avoid harming the whales but sometimes it's impossible for the ship/boat to stop or even see the whale in time. It's so sad when one of those incredible creatures are injured or killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingSince2012 Posted May 11, 2015 #5 Share Posted May 11, 2015 The story is evolving, and now they don't know yet if it was actually killed by the cruise ship or carried in by it. There are so many whales very close to land here, and quite recently a pod of Orcas came right up into Burrard Inlet, which is where the cruise ship terminal is. It really is sad to see one end up like this, especially a Fin whale - second largest in the world. So they don't know yet if the whale is dead? It does not matter what species the whale is. A dead whale is a dead whale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie68 Posted May 11, 2015 Author #6 Share Posted May 11, 2015 So they don't know yet if the whale is dead? It does not matter what species the whale is. A dead whale is a dead whale. Yes the whale is most definitely dead. The question is whether it was killed by the cruise ship or it's body carried in by a cruise ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted May 11, 2015 #7 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Sorry to hear this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingSince2012 Posted May 11, 2015 #8 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Yes the whale is most definitely dead. The question is whether it was killed by the cruise ship or it's body carried in by a cruise ship. How can a ship "carry in" a whale? That would make sense if we were talking about an eagle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowPrincess Posted May 11, 2015 #9 Share Posted May 11, 2015 A picture is worth a 1000 words. Have a look on this page: http://myboatwatch.com/canada_place_wharf_port_of_vancouver.php about 1/3 of the way down the page. Shows the whale on the Princess ship in 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted May 11, 2015 #10 Share Posted May 11, 2015 How can a ship "carry in" a whale? That would make sense if we were talking about an eagle. Ships have a large bulbous projection at the bow, just under the waterline. It has happened several times before that I recall where a whale is "pinned" there. Most recent one that I can remember happened on a Princess ship in Alaska. As with this incident, I recall that there was uncertainty as to whether the whale was killed by the ship or whether a whale that was already dead and floating was simply pinned there. Here's a link to the story regarding the Princess ship, which has a photo showing how this happens: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1298928/Dead-whale-pinned-Princess-cruise-ship-iin-Alaska.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted May 11, 2015 #11 Share Posted May 11, 2015 A picture is worth a 1000 words. Have a look on this page: http://myboatwatch.com/canada_place_wharf_port_of_vancouver.php about 1/3 of the way down the page. Shows the whale on the Princess ship in 2009. Thanks for the link. Horrid photos but nevertheless interesting to get a perspective how this event could have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCruisers Posted May 11, 2015 #12 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Is it possible the whale just died because it was really old or very sick? :confused: Gosh, HAL & Princess ships go so very slowly when whales are around. Seems a healthy whale would easily have been able to avoid the ship. :confused: LuLu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzadog Posted May 11, 2015 #13 Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) Here is the report from our local news station "The carcass of a dead fin whale has washed up in Burrard Inlet next to downtown Vancouver, and officials inspecting the young male whale said it was struck by a cruise ship. The whale was likely hit north of Vancouver Island, according to a veteran whale biologist with Fisheries and Oceans Canada." The whale's body was found floating near a dock at Port Metro Vancouver, close to the Rogers Sugar refinery east of downtown. Someone tied the whale's body to the dock, but it's not clear who did this. Edited May 11, 2015 by pizzadog Additional info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie68 Posted May 11, 2015 Author #14 Share Posted May 11, 2015 How can a ship "carry in" a whale? That would make sense if we were talking about an eagle. I will leave you to just mull that over and come to your own conclusion - sometimes trying to explain is useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare albingirl Posted May 11, 2015 #15 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I will leave you to just mull that over and come to your own conclusion - sometimes trying to explain is useless. Agree. Lots of speculation but very, very sad nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingSince2012 Posted May 11, 2015 #16 Share Posted May 11, 2015 A picture is worth a 1000 words. Have a look on this page: http://myboatwatch.com/canada_place_wharf_port_of_vancouver.php about 1/3 of the way down the page. Shows the whale on the Princess ship in 2009. That is the Princess ship I was on two years ago. I hate to think my ship killed a whale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted May 11, 2015 #17 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Here is the report from our local news station "The carcass of a dead fin whale has washed up in Burrard Inlet next to downtown Vancouver, and officials inspecting the young male whale said it was struck by a cruise ship. The whale was likely hit north of Vancouver Island, according to a veteran whale biologist with Fisheries and Oceans Canada." The whale's body was found floating near a dock at Port Metro Vancouver, close to the Rogers Sugar refinery east of downtown. Someone tied the whale's body to the dock, but it's not clear who did this. That sounds awful anecdotal. How are they tying it to a cruise ship, opposed to any other ship traffic? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie68 Posted May 11, 2015 Author #18 Share Posted May 11, 2015 That sounds awful anecdotal. How are they tying it to a cruise ship, opposed to any other ship traffic? :confused: They just announced it was the Seven Seas Navigator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon1 Posted May 11, 2015 #19 Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) Stuff happens. :o Edited May 11, 2015 by Typhoon1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlxo Posted May 12, 2015 #20 Share Posted May 12, 2015 https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=nws&q=vancouver+whale+cruise+2015+fin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingSince2012 Posted May 12, 2015 #21 Share Posted May 12, 2015 They just announced it was the Seven Seas Navigator. So they initially blamed the wrong ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapper1 Posted May 12, 2015 #22 Share Posted May 12, 2015 A picture is worth a 1000 words. Have a look on this page: http://myboatwatch.com/canada_place_wharf_port_of_vancouver.php about 1/3 of the way down the page. Shows the whale on the Princess ship in 2009. There is a saying----"Showin's better'n tellin'". Thanks CP. that is the image that I thought of as well but didn't know how to find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Alphen Posted May 12, 2015 #23 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Unfortunately, there is a downside to using the so called bulbous bow on ships (either cruise or other merchant ships) which reduce the ships drag through the water and that makes them more (fuel) efficient. The downside is that the bulbous bow makes them more silent through the water also, which makes them harder to spot for sea life and harder to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapper1 Posted May 12, 2015 #24 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Is it possible the whale just died because it was really old or very sick? :confused: Gosh, HAL & Princess ships go so very slowly when whales are around. Seems a healthy whale would easily have been able to avoid the ship. :confused: LuLu Fisheries and Oceans Canada biologists can tell the difference between a natural death and death caused by being struck by a ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cbr663 Posted May 12, 2015 #25 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Of course this is completely avoidable. A cruise ship is a pleasure craft that does not need to be sailing in those waters. This is another example of the environmental harm caused by cruise ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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