Trumpster Posted May 31, 2016 #126 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Not paying $70 for a meal just to be near some antsy child nearby . Well just remember that the couple with the antsy child are paying $80. So that should put your mind at ease. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevInPitt Posted May 31, 2016 #127 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Carnival is the "Fun Ships" and family friendly. Kids should be welcome in any restaurant on board. The little people are what turn a couple into a family. Perhaps some of you have outgrown the Carnival experience and it's time for you to move on to some of the other "mature" lines that don't present themselves as a family experience. Absolutely. Welcome those kiddos into the bars, casino, disco, Serenity and adult-themed comedy shows as well. They are, after all, part of the family experience that Carnival holds as it's "Fun Ship" theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted May 31, 2016 #128 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Absolutely. Welcome those kiddos into the bars, casino, disco, Serenity and adult-themed comedy shows as well. They are, after all, part of the family experience that Carnival holds as it's "Fun Ship" theme. Great idea, except that those venues do have a posted age limit. The steakhouse does not. Yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summersigh Posted May 31, 2016 #129 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Carnival is the "Fun Ships" and family friendly. Kids should be welcome in any restaurant on board. The little people are what turn a couple into a family. Perhaps some of you have outgrown the Carnival experience and it's time for you to move on to some of the other "mature" lines that don't present themselves as a family experience. Even Disney ,,, the ultimate family experience ... has adult only venues.:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnyval Posted May 31, 2016 #130 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Even Disney ,,, the ultimate family experience ... has adult only venues.:cool: Yes, they do. Disney also has cruisers that have no children that love the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted May 31, 2016 #131 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Even Disney ,,, the ultimate family experience ... has adult only venues.:cool: Speaking of over priced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuddrules Posted June 1, 2016 #132 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Even Disney ,,, the ultimate family experience ... has adult only venues.:cool: Well there you go, sounds like Disney is calling your name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted June 1, 2016 #133 Share Posted June 1, 2016 If the steakhouse were constantly packed / waiting list at the adult prices Carnival would not have added a kids priced / portioned menu. But they see a revenue opportunity from a segment that isn't visiting; families. Carnival is usually the most affordable cruise line and specifically targets the family market. You've got to expect they are going to gear their offerings to families. It's not unreasonable for a couple to want an adults only experience, that doesn't make them kid haters or anything. In my experience MOST kids are well behaved, but some are not, and yes, that can seriously ruin any experience. So I can understand both sides of the issue. Maybe Carnival needs to just put in plain speak that the Steakhouse is an upscale experience and diners are requested to behave courteously or will be asked to leave without a refund. Then it doesn't matter if you are 8 or 88, you know the expectation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclop Posted June 1, 2016 #134 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I see a lot of what is discussed on CC, brought over to Facebook. Today, I saw Facebook posts about adding Children's menu to the Carnival Steakhouses. Let's see what CC participants think about that idea. Should Carnival start offering discounted Kid's menus in their Steakhouses? If I understand the Carnival rules, Kids can dine at steakhouses now. So, this is whether to add discounted kids menus for the Steakhouse. I say sure, why not? That will be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summersigh Posted June 1, 2016 #135 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Well there you go, sounds like Disney is calling your name. Not a chance in the world :D But HAL is a different story ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summersigh Posted June 1, 2016 #136 Share Posted June 1, 2016 It's not unreasonable for a couple to want an adults only experience, that doesn't make them kid haters or anything. In my experience MOST kids are well behaved, but some are not, and yes, that can seriously ruin any experience. So I can understand both sides of the issue. I think too that the comments about kids having problems in the Steakhouse are mainly about very young kids - babies thru preschool rather than school age and teens. Those little ones, as any realistic parent will tell you, can have unpredictable behavior in strange surroundings depending on things like how tired or stimulated or bored they might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaFrimaire Posted June 1, 2016 #137 Share Posted June 1, 2016 No to the $10 kids menu! Some cocktails and the new seafood shack costs more. Charge at least $18-$20, or no reduction at all, to control the young crowd. I have young kids and would never take them to the steak house. Just feed them at the buffet and drop them off at the camp that night. Don't know why parents think a 2 hour formal meal is enjoyable for a young child who is probably tired after a long day, feeling very uncooperative and probably can't handle the pressure of being on their best behavior. It's not as enjoyable for them as you think it is. If you want an upscale experience for your kids on the cruise, dress up for elegant night in the main dining room, take the pictures and enjoy the atmosphere there. Maybe 12y.o. and older can handle the steakhouse, but younger, especially toddlers is really going to change the atmosphere and upset a lot of people who look forward to the Steakhouse on their cruise. Not very well thought out and will lead to unnecessary conflicts between passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_k58 Posted June 1, 2016 #138 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I honestly think that even if the children are well behaved, they wouldn't enjoy the ambience of the steakhouse and the 2 hour dining experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First and Ten Posted June 1, 2016 #139 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) I honestly think that even if the children are well behaved, they wouldn't enjoy the ambience of the steakhouse and the 2 hour dining experience. You are 100% right, they would rather be playing games and eating chicken nuggets in Camp Carnival Edited June 1, 2016 by First and Ten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenoNanaOz Posted June 1, 2016 #140 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Yes absolutely, what's wrong with kids dining in the Steakhouse as long as they know how to behave? We just got off the Miracle a few weeks ago and dined with our 2 grandkids (12 and 7). The price was $10 and the food was delicious, not standard kids menu. Grandson had Shrimp Cocktail and Fish and Chips. Granddaughter had small Filet with delicious mac n cheese (not dining room mac n cheese). They both had Ice Cream Sundaes for Dessert. the Exec Chef came over and asked them how their meal was and thanked them for dining in the Steakhouse. It was a great family dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First and Ten Posted June 1, 2016 #141 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) :D Yes absolutely, what's wrong with kids dining in the Steakhouse as long as they know how to behave? We just got off the Miracle a few weeks ago and dined with our 2 grandkids (12 and 7). The price was $10 and the food was delicious, not standard kids menu. Grandson had Shrimp Cocktail and Fish and Chips. Granddaughter had small Filet with delicious mac n cheese (not dining room mac n cheese). They both had Ice Cream Sundaes for Dessert. the Exec Chef came over and asked them how their meal was and thanked them for dining in the Steakhouse. It was a great family dinner. That brings us back to the million dollar question....who determines if they are well behaved?????????? I think its a safe assumption that we have all witnessed that "beast" child in a restaurant, screaming and wailing or on the other hand the constant moving of a kid getting up, sitting down, walking up the aisle, sitting down, banging the knife against the water glass, walking down the aisle, sitting down with the oblivious parent either letting him do that, or speaking just loud enough for people to hear "he is a wonderful, well behaved child, he is just being a little fidgety". Are there exceptions, absolutely. Those are the outliers. As a generalization, it is not reasonable to think a young child will sit for 2-2.5 hrs like a little angel, it just doesn't happen the majority of time. So what does Carnival do. you cant put a sign by the entrance of the Steakhouse reading "only well behaved children will be admitted"....LOL....99.9% of the parents think their little snowflake is well mannered and well behaved, so that isn't going to work....I have another idea. Every adult diner gets a paddle with their place setting. the paddle will have a big red "X" on it. If at any time a child is acting up and more than 3 paddles are raised in the air, the child has to be removed immediately. Sort of like they do it on "Americas Got Talent" :D Edited June 1, 2016 by First and Ten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purvis1231 Posted June 1, 2016 #142 Share Posted June 1, 2016 :D That brings us back to the million dollar question....who determines if they are well behaved?????????? I think its a safe assumption that we have all witnessed that "beast" child in a restaurant, screaming and wailing or on the other hand the constant moving of a kid getting up, sitting down, walking up the aisle, sitting down, banging the knife against the water glass, walking down the aisle, sitting down with the oblivious parent either letting him do that, or speaking just loud enough for people to hear "he is a wonderful, well behaved child, he is just being a little fidgety". Are there exceptions, absolutely. Those are the outliers. As a generalization, it is not reasonable to think a young child will sit for 2-2.5 hrs like a little angel, it just doesn't happen the majority of time. So what does Carnival do. you cant put a sign by the entrance of the Steakhouse reading "only well behaved children will be admitted"....LOL....99.9% of the parents think their little snowflake is well mannered and well behaved, so that isn't going to work....I have another idea. Every adult diner gets a paddle with their place setting. the paddle will have a big red "X" on it. If at any time a child is acting up and more than 3 paddles are raised in the air, the child has to be removed immediately. Sort of like they do it on "Americas Got Talent" :D I thought you were talking about a real paddle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First and Ten Posted June 1, 2016 #143 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) I thought you were talking about a real paddle! in todays world, that would never work unfortunately....to many parents think its ok for the little snowflake to "express themselves for their own individuality" :rolleyes: Edited June 1, 2016 by First and Ten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rynerson27 Posted June 1, 2016 #144 Share Posted June 1, 2016 This would be fantastic. I'll be sure to bring my little ones at the reduced rate just to annoy the old timers who don't want to be bothered. If you don't want to be bothered by kids and families then go cruise on Viking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOLDENBONNY Posted June 1, 2016 #145 Share Posted June 1, 2016 :D That brings us back to the million dollar question....who determines if they are well behaved?????????? I think its a safe assumption that we have all witnessed that "beast" child in a restaurant, screaming and wailing or on the other hand the constant moving of a kid getting up, sitting down, walking up the aisle, sitting down, banging the knife against the water glass, walking down the aisle, sitting down with the oblivious parent either letting him do that, or speaking just loud enough for people to hear "he is a wonderful, well behaved child, he is just being a little fidgety". Are there exceptions, absolutely. Those are the outliers. As a generalization, it is not reasonable to think a young child will sit for 2-2.5 hrs like a little angel, it just doesn't happen the majority of time. So what does Carnival do. you cant put a sign by the entrance of the Steakhouse reading "only well behaved children will be admitted"....LOL....99.9% of the parents think their little snowflake is well mannered and well behaved, so that isn't going to work....I have another idea. Every adult diner gets a paddle with their place setting. the paddle will have a big red "X" on it. If at any time a child is acting up and more than 3 paddles are raised in the air, the child has to be removed immediately. Sort of like they do it on "Americas Got Talent" :D Ok even if I don't like the idea of cheap kids menu I have to say you are wrong. My 8 years old will love fine dinning and will enjoy every dish. Plus if Carnival let kids go to this restaurant dose not matter how much it is .You will have unruled kids come by$10.00 or by $35.00 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First and Ten Posted June 1, 2016 #146 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) Ok even if I don't like the idea of cheap kids menu I have to say you are wrong. My 8 years old will love fine dinning and will enjoy every dish. Plus if Carnival let kids go to this restaurant dose not matter how much it is .You will have unruled kids come by$10.00 or by $35.00 . I would disagree....I think you are "wrong". I don't think MOST kids have a palate for "fine dining". Notice I didn't say all. If that was the case, there would be no need for the "kids menu" with chicken nuggets and mac & cheese. I will agree with you on the price, I don't think the price determines if people will go or not. My opinion would be to have a specialty restaurant that charges a premium and an age limit. Just my opinion Edited June 1, 2016 by First and Ten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattjs Posted June 1, 2016 #147 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) This would be fantastic. I'll be sure to bring my little ones at the reduced rate just to annoy the old timers who don't want to be bothered. If you don't want to be bothered by kids and families then go cruise on Viking. Please enjoy the dramatically increased 3rd and 4th guest rates should the 'Old Timers' depart with their typically higher per capita spend versus the 'Little Ones' Look, I've seen wonderfully behaved children in the steakhouse. They neither detracted from nor disturbed the experience. However, I've also had a dinner from hell where an obviously exhausted mother just stared at her exhausted and crying child instead of going for a short walk or attempting another appeasement. This went on for the last 45 minutes of my dinner. Not only did this distract other diners, it clearly disrupted the staff. They were not empowered to address the issue, suffered from angry diners, lost additional tips, and refunded many guests. While it irritated me to spend $100 for a lack luster evening, I especially felt bad for the poor staff dealing with an angry/agitated dining room. I'd feel the same way be it a disruptive exhausted child or disruptive drunken adult. Edited June 1, 2016 by mattjs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcbbq Posted June 1, 2016 #148 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Per John Heald, no kids menu at the Steakhouse. That is certainly not what I got from reading John's FB post today. Not only did he say that there IS a children's menu and that children have always been allowed, but he went on to imply that anyone who disagreed with this policy is basically a spoiled, tantrum-throwing, child-hating heathen. I generally enjoy John's posts but I'm really surprised that he is allowed to insult a huge swath of Carnival's customer base, simply because they hold a different opinion than he does. I know I'm not suppose to link, but I urge you to go see for yourself. He's easy to find with a search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je Souhaite Posted June 1, 2016 #149 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I know I'm not suppose to link, but I urge you to go see for yourself. He's easy to find with a search. I'm unsure why people quote rules that don't exist. Not only can you say FACEBOOK, you can link to it, as long as it's not a roll call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpster Posted June 1, 2016 #150 Share Posted June 1, 2016 That is certainly not what I got from reading John's FB post today. Not only did he say that there IS a children's menu and that children have always been allowed, but he went on to imply that anyone who disagreed with this policy is basically a spoiled, tantrum-throwing, child-hating heathen. I generally enjoy John's posts but I'm really surprised that he is allowed to insult a huge swath of Carnival's customer base, simply because they hold a different opinion than he does. I know I'm not suppose to link, but I urge you to go see for yourself. He's easy to find with a search. He is easy to find, the quote you attribute to him is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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