Periscoping on a cruise?

[A&L_Ont]

I'd follow along. Just promise not to film the solarium bar every sea day between 11-6. ;)

[GUT2407]

For a few moments there I thought they were starting submarine cruises.

 

 

Me too.

[A&L_Ont]

LOL, You know I got your back! I have 2 cruises planned, I keep telling myself I have to finish my Divina review before I go on my next....

 

We got my Mom and stepdad interred at the MA National Cemetery last week. She left me a little money and I think the perfect way to honor her is with an aft balcony on the Freedom. :D:D

 

Maureen, let me start by saying I am sorry to hear about your loss. I think a cruise is a great way to honour your mom. Virtual hugs from Canada.

 

If you have some time to finish the Divina cruise that would be nice. I knew when it just stopped and you were hardly on the boards sometime was amiss. Whatever the case, that review or the next one, I look forward too it.

 

Andrew

[paulh84]

http://socialmediaweek.org/blog/2015/07/periscope-101/

 

That link will give you a brief run down of what Periscope is if you aren't familiar with it.

 

I've always thought a combo Pericope/Twitter live feed would be easier to publish and follow along with rather than doing a live review here. But, those platforms are probably not widely used among a lot of people here.

[Ocean Boy]

I'm glad you described this periscope thing. I live 15 minutes from a submarine base. When I read the title of the thread I was thinking what the.... :confused::confused::confused::confused:

Edited July 25, 2015 by Ocean Boy

[maureencruiser]

Maureen, let me start by saying I am sorry to hear about your loss. I think a cruise is a great way to honour your mom. Virtual hugs from Canada.

 

If you have some time to finish the Divina cruise that would be nice. I knew when it just stopped and you were hardly on the boards sometime was amiss. Whatever the case, that review or the next one, I look forward too it.

 

Andrew

 

Thanks, Andrew!

[Thoie]

Gina, I've signed up to follow your feed, and watched one of your videos from last night.

 

When I read about Periscope first I was quite excited and thinking of ways that I could stream bits of my holidays while I was away. Then I started thinking some more, and realised that many of my friends/family won't be online at the times that I'd be streaming. But I found that I could save the streams to my gallery on my phone for later playback/sharing, and thought that would be handy.

 

So I set my phone up in a solid position at home, and started streaming, over a fast wifi connection, with good light etc.

Problem 1 - only other people with the app can see your live stream. There are some Periscope aggregators online for desktop viewing, but they don't let you find a specific user, just give you a sample of current streams

Problem 2 - already mentioned - timezones. For me the timezones come into play between Europe and the US. The times when I'd be streaming may not be convenient for friends/family, who would be my main audience (though I'd set things to public, so you may get other viewers)

Problem 3 - the quality is horrible. From watching one of Gina's videos from last night, I noticed a LOT of pixellation, low quality picture, but I assumed it was because it was at night, over cell networks, and there was a lot of moving around. When I replayed my own stream the quality was equally awful, and as I said that was over wifi, no camera movement, good lighting.

 

Then I suddenly came to a realisation that if I was going to save my video for replay later anyway... I could just record a video on my phone/tablet anyway, in much much better quality and share that later on. It also means I don't need wifi/data signal/expensive data roaming at the time. If I wanted to actually talk to someone while away, I could use Skype which has better video quality on the go already, and anyone who was online at the time could join in, and have a two way conversation.

 

Conclusion: I probably won't really use Periscope myself. I'll keep it installed and joyfully follow Gina's reports (if I'm online/awake at the right times). I can see it could be handy if you were caught in some kind of breaking news event, but for less time critical purposes like holiday reviews I'd be as well off recording the video in decent quality and uploading it to Youtube either almost immediately, if I have data access, or next time I'm somewhere data-y.

 

Again, having said all that, I'll certainly enjoy watching others, but I think the app isn't widespread enough yet, and with enough bandwidth behind it to make it great yet.

[Thoie]

Just to make a liar out of me, my phone just gave me a heart attack with a new alert tone - Gina is live! And the quality is fine! And they're driving towards the port!

 

I was wrong :)

[FloatMe]

Has anyone used or seen someone else use periscope on a cruise? I'm thinking about doing a Live report on my Oasis cruise in September since I will probably buy the wifi package (OMG! Why would you buy a wifi package??? I cruise to stay disconnected!!!).

 

Anyway, for those that do not know what periscope is, it is a free app on your phone or tablet where you can film live video. People that follow you can watch live and type in comments and questions that can be answered in real time.

 

I thought it would be fun to do this maybe 2-3 times a day for like 5-10 minutes each time.

 

The video stays on periscope for 24 hours so even if you were not logged on when I was live you could go back and view it.

Let us know if you decide to. I need as many things to do between now and our next cruise October 2016. UGH!

[TheTruthCanHurt]

I was curious about the "can you film in public, so I went to the American civil liberties website. it's a bit of a grey area, (where audio is concerned) The real thing is, if someone came up to you and asked not to be recorded (especially their children) I would think you would move on.

 

 

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Know Your Rights When Taking Photos and Making Video and Audio Recordings

 

This information is available as a PDF or as a pocket card by contacting your closest ACLU-PA office.

 

Please note that the PDF version has not yet been updated to refelect the fact that in June 2014, the US Supreme Court held that law enforcement cannot search a cellphone without a warrant (Riley v. California).

 

Taking photographs and videos of things that are plainly visible from public spaces is your constitutional right. That includes federal buildings, transportation facilities, and police and other government officials carrying out their duties. Unfortunately, law enforcement officers often order people to stop taking photographs or video in public places, and sometimes harass, detain or even arrest people who use their cameras or cell phone recording devices in public.

 

Your Right to Take Videos and Photographs

 

When in outdoor public spaces where you are legally present, you have the right to capture any image that is in plain view (see note below about sound recording). That includes pictures and videos of federal buildings, transportation facilities (including airports), and police officers.

When you are on private property, the property owner sets the rules about the taking of photographs or videos. If you disobey property owners' rules, they can order you off their property (and have you arrested for trespassing if you do not comply).

Police should not order you to stop taking pictures or video. Under no circumstances should they demand that you delete your photographs or video.

Police officers may order citizens to cease activities that are truly interfering with legitimate law enforcement operations. In general, a court will trust an officer's judgment about what is "interfering" more than yours. So if an officer orders you to stand back, do so.

If the officer says he/she will arrest you if you continue to use your camera, in most circumstances it is better to put the camera away and call the ACLU for help, rather than risking arrest.

Police officers may not generally confiscate or demand to view your photographs or video or search the contents your cell phone without a warrant. In addition, it is possible that courts may approve the seizure of a camera in some circumstances if police have a reasonable, good-faith belief that it contains evidence of a crime by someone other than the police themselves (it is unsettled whether they still need a warrant to view them). (Note: This section has been updated to reflect the June 2014 US Supreme Court decision in Riley v. California, in which the court held that police need a warrant to search a cellphone.)

 

Using a Video Recorder (Including Cell Phones) With Audio Capacity

 

You have a right to capture images in public places, but you don't always have a right to record what people say. Pennsylvania's Wiretap Law makes it illegal to record private conversations - which can include conversations in public places - without the consent of all parties to the conversation. Conversations with police in the course of their duties are not private conversations, but many other things you may record on a public street are.

You have the right to videotape and audiotape police officers performing official duties in public. It is not a violation of the Pennsylvania Wiretap Law to do so. That means you can record an officer during a traffic stop, during an interrogation, or while he or she is making an arrest.

You can record people protesting or giving speeches in public.

The Pennsylvania Wiretap Law does make it illegal to record any electronically transmitted conversation. Never record a telephone conversation without the permission of all parties to the conversation.

 

If You Are Stopped or Detained for Taking Photographs or Videos

Always remain polite and never physically resist a police officer.

If stopped for photography, ask if you are free to go. If the officer says no, then you are being detained, something an officer cannot do without reasonable suspicion that you have or are about to commit a crime or are in the process of doing so. Until you ask to leave, your being stopped is considered voluntary under the law and is legal.

If you are detained, politely state that you believe you have the right to take pictures or video and that you do not consent to the officer looking through or deleting anything on your camera. But if the officer reaches for your camera or phone, do not resist. Simply repeat that you do not consent to any search or seizure. You don't want to invite a charge for "resisting arrest."

 

If you believe your right to protest has been violated, please contact the ACLU of Pennsylvania toll-free at 877-PGH-ACLU (Western Office) or 877-PHL-ACLU (Eastern Office).

Edited July 25, 2015 by TheTruthCanHurt

[maureencruiser]

Let us know if you decide to. I need as many things to do between now and our next cruise October 2016. UGH!

 

Book another cruise! :D

[Tunkhannock]

If you believe your right to protest has been violated, please contact the ACLU of Pennsylvania toll-free at 877-PGH-ACLU (Western Office) or 877-PHL-ACLU (Eastern Office).

 

Pennsylvania has an "anti-wiretap" law that effectively makes audio recording of private discussions illegal without consent of all parties involved. There is no federal equivalent to this law, and I doubt that any cruises would be subject to Pennsylvania criminal code except, maybe, cruises home-ported out of Philadelphia.

[FloatMe]

Book another cruise! :D

A proper solution, yes. However we just got married on Adventure in April and the cost of the on board ceremony absorbed a significant amount of our cruise budget[emoji2] worth every penny! The bright spot is we will be right back on track with a spring 2017 following fall of 2016.

[Thoie]

I was curious about the "can you film in public, so I went to the American civil liberties website. it's a bit of a grey area, (where audio is concerned) The real thing is, if someone came up to you and asked not to be recorded (especially their children) I would think you would move on.

 

 

Sure - politeness is always nice. I just get irritated at the number of people who start "I'll call the police if you don't stop taking photos", or the self-righteous who believe they have some kind of legal right to demand that you hand over your camera to show them photos already taken, or demand that you delete existing photos. Or "you can't take photos of children, ever".

 

Common sense and politeness (from both sides) would take care of a lot of problems. If I'm recording a video on the Royal Promenade and you happen to walk by in the background, so be it. If I stick the camera in your face and chase you up and down the ship, then at the very least I'm being abominably rude, and may be guilty of a crime such as harassment. The important thing is that in this case, the camera is incidental - if I chased you up and down the ship with a book, the same crime would exist.

 

If I'm filming a public area, and you happen to walk through the shot, you have no right to demand that I delete that video. If I'm filming something of interest near where you are, and you feel I've got the camera on you a long time, it would be reasonable and polite for you to mention that it's making you feel uncomfortable and could I possibly keep you out of the shot. It would be reasonable and polite for most togs to accommodate you. You have no rights in this situation - you're asking a favour to be excluded from the frame.

[alocsin]

Pennsylvania has an "anti-wiretap" law that effectively makes audio recording of private discussions illegal without consent of all parties involved. There is no federal equivalent to this law, and I doubt that any cruises would be subject to Pennsylvania criminal code except, maybe, cruises home-ported out of Philadelphia.

In any case, wouldn't the laws of the ship's flag state apply, which is typically not US (i.e., Bahamas law for RCCL's Oasis of the Seas)?

 

Not that I know what Bahamian law is.

[Yorkvillain]

I'd follow along. Just promise not to film the solarium bar every sea day between 11-6. ;)

 

Lol. I promise.

[Yorkvillain]

For those of you curious about live streaming - I will be live streaming from the Oasis this week. I'm heading to the port this morning! [emoji3] Periscope App- @ginanocera. I'm new to this, but I think it will be fun. Join me?

 

 

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Nice! I'm following you now. Have fun!

[Yorkvillain]

Me too.

 

I'm glad you described this periscope thing. I live 15 minutes from a submarine base. When I read the title of the thread I was thinking what the.... :confused::confused::confused::confused:

 

I would love to do a submarine cruise but for some strange reason those ships never have oceanview balconies.

[Goodtime Cruizin]

And no differently, you're not supposed to post video and pictures of people that didn't give you permission to do so.

 

 

If you intend to disregard people's desire to NOT have their faces and the faces of their children plastered all over the internet, then perhaps you shouldn't be too surprised if your phone "accidentally" ends up overboard.

 

If you 'accidentally' threw my phone overboard, that is a violation and against the law. You would pay a very steep price for this type of action, in that you might be escorted off the ship. Plus pay punitive damges.

[Goodtime Cruizin]

You are missing the Point. It´s not about taking a Picture when there is a crowd and not have any People in them.

 

It´s no Problem to take the Picture. The Problem arises when you publish that Picture, especially online, without consent of the People in the Picture.

 

 

Your permission is not needed and not required. There is nothing illegal in taking a picture of you or anyone and posting them on the internet unless it involves some sort of commercial gain.

[Illyria]

If you 'accidentally' threw my phone overboard, that is a violation and against the law. You would pay a very steep price for this type of action, in that you might be escorted off the ship. Plus pay punitive damges.

Blah blah blah. This thread just reminds me once again why I mostly despise people in general. I'm done here.

[Goodtime Cruizin]

Blah blah blah. This thread just reminds me once again why I mostly despise people in general. I'm done here.

 

Wait... before you leave I want a picture of you! :D

[alocsin]

Wait... before you leave I want a picture of you! :D

Took me a second, but I finally got this.

 

LOL.

[Thoie]

Blah blah blah. This thread just reminds me once again why I mostly despise people in general. I'm done here.

 

Did she really just storm off in a huff because she was corrected as to her "rights" and reminded that destroying someone' s property is a crime? Wow. No wonder she despises people in general - obviously everyone should just agree with her no matter what falsehoods she comes out with.

[Tunkhannock]

In any case, wouldn't the laws of the ship's flag state apply, which is typically not US (i.e., Bahamas law for RCCL's Oasis of the Seas)?

 

Taking a wild-ass guess, but I suspect that the law of the most recent port would be in effect until they reached international waters. But, to be honest, my knowledge of maritime law is trivial at best. I'm probably wrong.

 

Did she really just storm off in a huff because she was corrected as to her "rights" and reminded that destroying someone' s property is a crime?

 

Yup.

 

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