Suite Travels Posted September 11, 2015 #26 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Jeff, I will take Stilton cheese with mine or Gouda and a glass of champagne to top it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted September 11, 2015 #27 Share Posted September 11, 2015 To be honest, I have tried so many different cheeses and imho nothing beats Kraft Cheese slices. Nothing. Not even Monterey Jack. Nothing. And it should come with a nice friendly mug of Rioja. I guess we should morph any further food discussions to the cooler because we will be reported by a grump and deleted ... :) Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suite Travels Posted September 11, 2015 #28 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Unfortunately Jeff, if a grump complains about anything on CC it either gets deleted or locked. I for one enjoy your comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted September 11, 2015 #29 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Unfortunately Jeff, if a grump complains about anything on CC it either gets deleted or locked. I for one enjoy your comments. That is really kind. Thanks. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimosa09 Posted September 12, 2015 #30 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I have found the hamburger discussion rather funny & you are making me hungry. But what I really find funny is the fact that they are being served in the MDR - on a luxury cruise line! We leave for our first Silversea cruise this October and was expecting some quite tasty food on board. I don't think we have ordered any hamburgers on any of the cruises we've been on. :) -Rose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted September 12, 2015 #31 Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) I have found the hamburger discussion rather funny & you are making me hungry. But what I really find funny is the fact that they are being served in the MDR - on a luxury cruise line! We leave for our first Silversea cruise this October and was expecting some quite tasty food on board. I don't think we have ordered any hamburgers on any of the cruises we've been on. :) -Rose Rose, You and your man look like a lovely couple and it's lovely that you are looking forward to your first SS cruise. You both deserve the best that SS can do. :) I don't know whether you see BBC Blackadder in the US, but what I plan to do is to go to bed (it's 2am) and if you post to say you are of good humour and "up for it" I am going to sleep and wake up and dream up and post a "cunning plan" to help you optimise the SS food experience. No burgers. I don't know what it will be. Or whether it will be. But there will be a cunning plan, just between you and me. Burgers are for country gals. Not for proper ladies. If you'd like some cunning and devious plans just say the word and I'll do my best. The only thing I request is that you agree to be sworn to secrecy and if you try stuff you post here to say how it is going. Don't worry, I am on so many ignore lists no one else will know .....:D It will be fun. I hope. ;) Jeff Edited September 12, 2015 by UKCruiseJeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_K Posted September 12, 2015 #32 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I have found the hamburger discussion rather funny & you are making me hungry. But what I really find funny is the fact that they are being served in the MDR - on a luxury cruise line! We leave for our first Silversea cruise this October and was expecting some quite tasty food on board. I don't think we have ordered any hamburgers on any of the cruises we've been on. :) -Rose Hamburgers are served in the MDR on all the luxury cruise lines, Silversea is just the only one gauche ( or brave) enough to list it on the menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregon50 Posted September 12, 2015 #33 Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) Mark, you are correct. Hamburgers are served in MDR on all luxury cruise lines.....prior to 2 PM. Edited September 12, 2015 by oregon50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wripro Posted September 12, 2015 #34 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Calling the burgers "gourmet" doesn't make it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_K Posted September 13, 2015 #35 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Mark, you are correct. Hamburgers are served in MDR on all luxury cruise lines.....prior to 2 PM. And on any luxury cruise line worthy of the name, they're also served at 8PM upon passenger request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregon50 Posted September 13, 2015 #36 Share Posted September 13, 2015 You are correct again. Given 24 hour notice you can have a hamburger on luxury lines during dinner hours in MDR. I guess SS is the exception. Is SS still considered luxury? This is about the 20th thing they have done to escape the luxury group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted September 13, 2015 #37 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Absolutely right. I know we are going over old ground ... again .... but wouldn't it be lovely if there was a line today that was like SS when it started with just the two dinky ones. We all know that the marginal effects of a high fixed cost business is that a small amount of cash taken out can make a lot of difference to the differentiators. When you expand you go down market. When you go down market you reduce diems. When you reduce diems you reduce all the variable cost things. Al the variable cost things are the noticeable things. The noticeable things are the important things. None of us are idiots. We won't be cheated. But there is still a market for those wishing to pay a bit more to have the important things maintained. IMHO. Anyone want to club together to buy a ship? :) Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_K Posted September 13, 2015 #38 Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) Jeff, Maybe you should try Pearl Seas, just one dinky ship. One of its stops in the summer is only a few miles from where I live, I can give you the local tour and we can have a five hour lunch. Here's a picture of it taken from by brother's house: Mark Edited September 13, 2015 by Mark_K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted September 13, 2015 #39 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Jeff, Maybe you should try Pearl Seas, just one dinky ship. One of its stops in the summer is only a few miles from where I live, I can give you the local tour and we can have a five hour lunch. Here's a picture of it taken from by brother's house: [ATTACH]362455[/ATTACH] Mark Hi Mark, I have travelled so far in the past on the slimmest of excuses! Please don't put temptation in the way! Thanks for the "steer". I have had a quick look at the site and they have a tab called "Ships" and Mist does look very personal and small and good and interesting ... but as someone unfamiliar it looks a bit dated and ferryish. The five hour lunch is a touch short ... as you know mine start early and end up before it's dark. You'll have to make it over to Blighty for Devon or Hampshire or even Singapore for a longer one! :) Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Silver Spectre Posted September 13, 2015 #40 Share Posted September 13, 2015 And on any luxury cruise line worthy of the name, they're also served at 8PM upon passenger request. They have always been available on the in-suite dining menu, just not called gourmet. And of course always available at 24 hours notice in the MDR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare drron29 Posted September 13, 2015 #41 Share Posted September 13, 2015 What a fuss over a hamburger.Quite a few Michelin strred restaurants will have to go on a few people's do not visit list- http://www.businessinsider.com.au/best-burgers-at-upscale-restaurants-2015-8#/#acadia-chicago-illinois-1 Even in France- http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/16/world/europe/16iht-burgers.4.14552700.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted September 13, 2015 #42 Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) The Michelin star system has nothing to do with the class of restaurant or the price of the food. It is a rating for how well the food is prepared for each category of establishment. In other words it is an indicator for you as to whether you are likely to be delighted or disappointed with the food irrespective of the particular dish. In Hong Kong their are dim sum places. It has nothing to do with the sophistication of the menu. Obviously the most expensive restaurants tend to gather the highest stars but I cannot think of any reason why some high Michelin star restaurants wouldn't provide extremely high quality burgers. If it provided low quality burgers, then it probably wouldn't have a high rating. I think the point some are making is that they simply think it out of place in the ambience in MDR that some thought SS were trying to maintain. MDR for example has a dress code. Many Michelin star restaurants are informal and have no code. That has implications to many as to what they expect not to see on the menu. To put it at it's clumsiest some feel that if they are going to wear a tuxedo, they would prefer not to sit at a table with people eating burgers. Even if you disagree with them they are entitled to feel that way, don't you think? It doesn't imply burgers are out of place in all or any excellent restaurants. Nothing more, and nothing less. Jeff Edited September 13, 2015 by UKCruiseJeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wripro Posted September 14, 2015 #43 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I think what disturbs some of us about the burgers is not so much the burgers themselves but that they are an indication of SS trying to give you a lesser product for more money. And what will be next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregon50 Posted September 14, 2015 #44 Share Posted September 14, 2015 And what will be next? Oh, gee whiz, a question I've been asking for at least seven years. Has anyone had a so called gourmet burger on SS? The normal burgers have been terrible. Crystal serves the best burger at sea, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAP16 Posted September 14, 2015 #45 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Had the Gourmet Burger last night for dinner via Room Service. Absolutely awful although our Butler has another guest whose wife wants the recipe. Go figure. To each his own! Btw, asked one of the better waiters in MDR how many burgers he has served since introducing on the MDR menu. He told me less than 5 and most were for lunch not dinner. So either there market research was faulty or they did just dream up the concept and assumed people would like to order hamburgers for dinner in MDR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suite Travels Posted September 15, 2015 #46 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Oh, gee whiz, a question I've been asking for at least seven years.Has anyone had a so called gourmet burger on SS? The normal burgers have been terrible. Crystal serves the best burger at sea, IMO. Crystal indeed has the best burgers at sea but you will not see them on the menu at dinner only on request. We think Crystal has the best food at sea with a modern and traditional menu at dinner. We were on the Shadow a few years ago and we thought the food to be boring to awful. We sent back food several times or just did not eat it. We ordered tuna fish salad for lunch and it was drenched in mayo. We tried crab claws and they were freezer burned. We reduced ourselves to club sandwhiches and even they could not get it right always had wet bacon when we asked for crispy. About the only thing they could not screw up was a grilled cheese sandwhich.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted September 15, 2015 #47 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Crystal indeed has the best burgers at sea but you will not see them on the menu at dinner only on request. We think Crystal has the best food at sea with a modern and traditional menu at dinner. We were on the Shadow a few years ago and we thought the food to be boring to awful. We sent back food several times or just did not eat it. We ordered tuna fish salad for lunch and it was drenched in mayo. We tried crab claws and they were freezer burned. We reduced ourselves to club sandwhiches and even they could not get it right always had wet bacon when we asked for crispy. About the only thing they could not screw up was a grilled cheese sandwhich.:eek: None of the recent stuff about food gives confidence. You think they would avoid or if they couldn't discard stuff with freezer burn. And customers who are so delighted with the "gourmet" burgers they ask how to make a burger. :confused: We resorted to sandwiches a lot of the time and I even had to give very specific instructions about how to make them including how to make a simple marie rose sauce for the prawn sandwiches. Still, although they left the crust on at least they cut them on the posh diagonal! :D Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wripro Posted September 15, 2015 #48 Share Posted September 15, 2015 A new marketing plan for Silversea: Sail Silversea ---- Lose weight!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Silver Spectre Posted September 15, 2015 #49 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I think what disturbs some of us about the burgers is not so much the burgers themselves but that they are an indication of SS trying to give you a lesser product for more money. And what will be next? Lunch & learn with the head chef now carries a $40 per person charge. This used to be gratis with David Bilsland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_K Posted September 15, 2015 #50 Share Posted September 15, 2015 When Silversea said they were redefining ultra-luxury cruising, they neglected to mention which direction they were going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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