AZbeachboy Posted October 17, 2015 #76 Share Posted October 17, 2015 So 15% to 20% seems to be the norm now so are saying you are going to give the breakfast server $1.40 and the steakhouse server $1.40 or the breakfast server $4.00 and the steakhouse server $4.00...:confused: No, I am saying why should the breakfast server get less for the same work. Why does the norm have to be in percentages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted October 17, 2015 #77 Share Posted October 17, 2015 No, I am saying why should the breakfast server get less for the same work. Why does the norm have to be in percentages. That's what really puzzles me. Why should you pay more for a plate of lobster than I do for a sandwich, in terms of tips/service fee. If both entail one trip to the table with one plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted October 17, 2015 #78 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Except for the fact that all items in a Princess restaurant are priced the same so the gratuities should be the same regardless of what is ordered. And 20% of zero is .....??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet curise Posted October 17, 2015 #79 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I have been on emerald and royal princess and was wondering how the coral compares to them , going to Panama canel in march and have no complaints with princess on last three cruises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZbeachboy Posted October 17, 2015 #80 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I have been on emerald and royal princess and was wondering how the coral compares to them , going to Panama canel in march and have no complaints with princess on last three cruises I think this is the wrong thread for that question. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisin' Chick Posted October 17, 2015 #81 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I do not understand thus 'double tipping' that seems to be common place. If you leave the auto tip in place , why are you tipping again ? Actually not "double tipping" unless someone is being pretty generous. You're getting a hotel service charge (AKA auto-gratuities) on your stateroom folio every night. You don't HAVE to give anything $ above that. We don't give any tips on the first day of the cruise (some people will have all sorts of tasks for their cabin steward then, despite the steward needing to get all of his cabins ready). We don't do the greenfisted salute at dinner (we keep on our grats and we have traditional dining which makes it easier to give any extra tip on the last day to the staff). It's your choice. We usually like the service we get so often we do give extra. All comments very interesting. I was not aware of the policy of tips going into a pool if you opt out. We never have opted out but have reduced the amount toward the end of the cruise depending on how the cruise went. So what happens when you reduce the daily tip by say 5% because we didn't stop at a port or we where late to sail or just alot of little things went wrong etc.?Mark Reduced the amount because of things out of control of the crew members? C'mon. And if a passenger is having problems with service, often a stop at the passenger services desk will help resolve the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactusrose Posted October 17, 2015 #82 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Why are tips not included in the fare? (Non Australian) There are advantages to line, crew and passengers by doing it this way. For the crew, many of them pay a fee to their agency based on their contracted pay rate. Tips are not included in that rate, any guaranteed income (which is what it would be if included in fare) would be. Thus, the staff keeps a higher percentage of tips. For the line, they pay less on contract, which helps them keep fares appearing lower, plus there are tax advantages. The downside is the effort involved in administering the system. For passengers, the hotel charge is not charged until on board. This means it does not have to appear on a credit card charge 75 days out and does not have to be counted for taxes and trip insurance costs as it would if included in the fare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactusrose Posted October 17, 2015 #83 Share Posted October 17, 2015 All comments very interesting. I was not aware of the policy of tips going into a pool if you opt out. We never have opted out but have reduced the amount toward the end of the cruise depending on how the cruise went. So what happens when you reduce the daily tip by say 5% because we didn't stop at a port or we where late to sail or just alot of little things went wrong etc.?Mark Really? You hold the cabin steward, dinning room staff, laundry people, etc. responsible for missing a port or for a late sailing? :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted October 17, 2015 #84 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I have been on emerald and royal princess and was wondering how the coral compares to them , going to Panama canel in march and have no complaints with princess on last three cruises There is no comparison, the Coral is the best! Check out the thread you already created. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shredie Posted October 18, 2015 #85 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Really? You hold the cabin steward, dinning room staff, laundry people, etc. responsible for missing a port or for a late sailing? :eek: The people who want to go the cheap route will find any excuse to remove the tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted October 19, 2015 #86 Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) As it has evolved in the USA, tipping is expected no matter how poor the service is (restaurants, taxis) or how minimal the service is (hotel porter moving your suitcase 25 feet). It has also expanded to areas it had never been before such as shuttle drivers from a parking lot to the airport terminal. Tipping is based on the quality of the service. I have left no tip in cases where the service was so bad no tip was warranted (restaurants & taxis). If we are truly talking about short distances (25 feet) I will not allow the hotel porter to take my bag. At the airport I'll tip outside the terminal, but not inside. Edited October 19, 2015 by Cuizer2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted October 19, 2015 #87 Share Posted October 19, 2015 So 15% to 20% seems to be the norm now so are saying you are going to give the breakfast server $1.40 and the steakhouse server $1.40 or the breakfast server $4.00 and the steakhouse server $4.00...:confused: $2.70 each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted October 19, 2015 #88 Share Posted October 19, 2015 That's what really puzzles me. Why should you pay more for a plate of lobster than I do for a sandwich, in terms of tips/service fee. If both entail one trip to the table with one plate. Because the lobster has a large claw it can pinch you with while the sandwich poses no threat (hazard pay). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted October 19, 2015 #89 Share Posted October 19, 2015 And 20% of zero is .....??? It depends, are you asking the server or the served? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted October 19, 2015 #90 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I have been on emerald and royal princess and was wondering how the coral compares to them , going to Panama canel in march and have no complaints with princess on last three cruises Just tip 17.5% and you will be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherylandtk Posted October 19, 2015 #91 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Why are tips not included in the fare? (Non Australian). I think it is all marketing. For a while a year (2?) or so ago Princess advertised fares that included the taxes and touted them as 'no extra charges' or some such. But all the other lines marketed just as they always have, fare plus port taxes. So Princess fares looked about $100 higher than the competition. THAT marketing plan only last a few months. The current system is so ingrained in traveler's minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted October 20, 2015 #92 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Just tip 17.5% and you will be okay. 17.5% of what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted October 20, 2015 #93 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I think it is all marketing. For a while a year (2?) or so ago Princess advertised fares that included the taxes and touted them as 'no extra charges' or some such. But all the other lines marketed just as they always have, fare plus port taxes. So Princess fares looked about $100 higher than the competition. THAT marketing plan only last a few months. The current system is so ingrained in traveler's minds. It was with the theme "what you see is what you pay." People on this board liked it and were sorry to see it ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZbeachboy Posted October 20, 2015 #94 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I think it is all marketing. For a while a year (2?) or so ago Princess advertised fares that included the taxes and touted them as 'no extra charges' or some such. But all the other lines marketed just as they always have, fare plus port taxes. So Princess fares looked about $100 higher than the competition. THAT marketing plan only last a few months. The current system is so ingrained in traveler's minds. J C Penney tried something similar. They did away with sale marketing and used a lowest price always policy. The prices were really great and lower that sale prices had been. But sale mentality psychology was so strong in people that the company almost closed after one year. They fired the CEO, called back the old CEO who had retired and brought back sale promotions. People can be ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZbeachboy Posted October 20, 2015 #95 Share Posted October 20, 2015 It was with the theme "what you see is what you pay." People on this board liked it and were sorry to see it ended. Until and shortly after HAL was bought by Carnival, they had a no tipping policy. I loved it, then they changed. Most people still tipped some for good service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted October 20, 2015 #96 Share Posted October 20, 2015 It was with the theme "what you see is what you pay." People on this board liked it and were sorry to see it ended. Many people on cruise critic are almost always surprised to learn that the world does not revolve around "People on this board". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZbeachboy Posted October 20, 2015 #97 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Many people on cruise critic are almost always surprised to learn that the world does not revolve around "People on this board". Can you explain what you meant by this statement. I think caribill was only saying that many people on CC liked the idea of one price in the advertising. So, I don't know what that has to do with a general slamming of those who are members of this board. There my quite well be some egocentric and arrogant people here, but how do you know. Some may just be misinformed about things. Others might have expectations that have way passed from sailing a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted October 20, 2015 #98 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Can you explain what you meant by this statement. I think caribill was only saying that many people on CC liked the idea of one price in the advertising. So, I don't know what that has to do with a general slamming of those who are members of this board. There my quite well be some egocentric and arrogant people here, but how do you know. Some may just be misinformed about things. Others might have expectations that have way passed from sailing a long time ago. My post: "Many people on cruise critic are almost always surprised to learn that the world does not revolve around "People on this board"." was not a criticism of caribill or of posters on cruise critic in general. It was heavily caveated to limit it's application to those who do think the cruise lines should change their policies to match their preferences. Any thread on gratuities provides sufficient justification of my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZbeachboy Posted October 20, 2015 #99 Share Posted October 20, 2015 My post: "Many people on cruise critic are almost always surprised to learn that the world does not revolve around "People on this board"." was not a criticism of caribill or of posters on cruise critic in general. It was heavily caveated to limit it's application to those who do think the cruise lines should change their policies to match their preferences. Any thread on gratuities provides sufficient justification of my post. Thanks for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted October 20, 2015 #100 Share Posted October 20, 2015 17.5% of what? Of what you eat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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