vistaman Posted December 6, 2015 #1 Share Posted December 6, 2015 i enjoyed reading the latest review of the Europa 2 i am curious to know the opinion of other past passengers about the fact there is no casino on board ? a few weeks ago i was on crystal serenity and 2 couples told me that was the reason for not travelling on the Europa 2 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Voyager Posted December 8, 2015 #2 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) As someone for whom the presence of a casino on a cruise ship has no appeal whatsoever, I have often wondered why some people regard the presence of one a requirement for an enjoyable cruise. For me, a casino on a cruise ship is just another revenue stream for the Cruise Line. So, bravo to Hapag-Lloyd for omitting one. Edited December 8, 2015 by English Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchestrapal Posted December 8, 2015 #3 Share Posted December 8, 2015 As someone for whom the presence of a casino on a cruise ship has no appeal whatsoever, I have often wondered why some people regard the presence of one a requirement for an enjoyable cruise. For me, a casino on a cruise ship is just another revenue stream for the Cruise Line. So, bravo to Hapag-Lloyd for omitting one. Totally agree. We never spend any money in the Casino if there is one so no need as far as we are concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vistaman Posted December 9, 2015 Author #4 Share Posted December 9, 2015 i occasionnaly do play for a very small amount on a seaday on other ships i even noticed some passengers ran to local casino's - Malta Rhodes La Coruna and in Caribbean Aruba and Antigua when the casino on the ship is closed however in reactions from other past passengers on the "2"from Belgium there were several rather strong recommendations for a casino i like ms Europa 2 and ms Europa that much , that going to another 5 starred company is for me not such a great experience anymore - even on Crystal with all the changes after all inclusive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floridiana Posted December 20, 2015 #5 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I think that Hapag Lloyd has no trouble filling the Europa 2 with passengers who don't care about a casino. None of the special fares they send me occasionally are for this ship. We wanted to book a Northern Europe or Baltic trip for this summer, all sold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Voyager Posted December 20, 2015 #6 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I think that Hapag Lloyd has no trouble filling the Europa 2 with passengers who don't care about a casino. None of the special fares they send me occasionally are for this ship. We wanted to book a Northern Europe or Baltic trip for this summer, all sold out. I think that one reason is that unlike a lot of other Cruise Lines, Hapag-Lloyd do not bring out a new season's brochure with artificially inflated prices which one knows will be subsequently reduced, so one tends to wait to book. I have booked my Europa 2 cruises up to a year+ in advance, and have never seen a reduction in fares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vistaman Posted December 20, 2015 Author #7 Share Posted December 20, 2015 i am doing it as well : booking a year in advance - now trying to match some cruises on the Europa 2 with some on the ms Europa with special events for 2017;) i must avoid tropical heath for health reasons i had one reduction on ms Europa : from Dubai to Cyprus and one on Europa 2 where the single supp was waived . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Catlover54 Posted December 26, 2015 #8 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I do not care if a ship has a casino or not (as long as the cruise line is not skimping on other services so as to make a casino). I spent too much time with math and statistics to think it is a rational thing for people to be participating in (and of course people never do anything irrational :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ithaca Posted December 26, 2015 #9 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I'm with you Catalover 54, when I retired i refused to even calculate the tip when lunching with my friends. Rather than numbers, I now prefer words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Catlover54 Posted December 28, 2015 #10 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I think that one reason is that unlike a lot of other Cruise Lines, Hapag-Lloyd do not bring out a new season's brochure with artificially inflated prices which one knows will be subsequently reduced, so one tends to wait to book. I have booked my Europa 2 cruises up to a year+ in advance, and have never seen a reduction in fares. Good to know that fares stay stable. Have you booked your next E2 cruise yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Catlover54 Posted December 28, 2015 #11 Share Posted December 28, 2015 i am doing it as well : booking a year in advance - now trying to match some cruises on the Europa 2 with some on the ms Europa with special events for 2017;)i must avoid tropical heath for health reasons i had one reduction on ms Europa : from Dubai to Cyprus and one on Europa 2 where the single supp was waived . As you have done both (thread drift alert), what would you say the three major differences are between Europa and Europa 2 (other than the fact that on Europa it is not marketed as bilingual, and the casino?). Are classical music options more regular on Europa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Voyager Posted December 28, 2015 #12 Share Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) Good to know that fares stay stable. Have you booked your next E2 cruise yet? Yes. In April of this year I booked back to back cruises, through Norway, for July 2016. The second of the two cruises has been sold out for quite some time. Edited December 28, 2015 by English Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Voyager Posted December 28, 2015 #13 Share Posted December 28, 2015 As you have done both (thread drift alert), what would you say the three major differences are between Europa and Europa 2 (other than the fact that on Europa it is not marketed as bilingual, and the casino?). Are classical music options more regular on Europa? The Europa has formal nights- so dinner jacket for men. The classical music highlights for 2016 are: EUR 1606: Miami to New York. Wait List. EUR 1613:Norwegian Cruise- Winners of the ARD Music Competition and Friends. EUR 1619: Lisbon to Nice- The Ocean Sun Music Festival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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