Freestyle gone too far?

[DMH15]

This behavior has nothing to do with Freestyle. It is simply a lack of manners.

 

I agree... some people are just CLUELESS. We once had a girl in the row in front of us on the airplane start to paint her nails. The fumes were intense. I looked at her and said "you can't paint your nails on the plane!" She shrugged and kept doing it. So, I pressed the button for the flight attendant. She came and read the girl the riot act and made her stop immediately. The girl turned around and glared at me.

 

Regarding dress... there are shorts and there are shorts... just like there are jeans and there are jeans. Nice shorts on a man or woman in a dining establishment are fine with me. That being said... seems odd to be in a restaurant with a formal atmosphere, nice table settings with tablecloths and servers dressed up with customers in shorts... but to each his own.

[EmJakeBubbie]

NCL fan, but because of home-port cruising, mostly cruise RCI. Just off the ANTHEM; noticed in the "jacket-enforced" GRANDE, one gentleman did wear his jacket WITH dirty sneakers, crummy jeans, a horrible shirt and he did remove his jacket and placed over the back of his chair as soon as he sat down. He made his point, looking foolish, obviously inclined to make his point.

He and his lady were "dining" at a table for two. Honestly, she looked embarrassed. They were on the senior-side of aging.

 

Pax enjoy the GRANDE because you can get lobster every single night and it is really tasty - if you show up w/o a jacket, one will be loaned to you.

 

I don't care what people wear and yes, these dress code threads refuse to die, lol, but the toe nail thing, I agree, is disgusting. Our youth seem to lack the good manners instilled in us seniors, in our youth.

 

We need a campaign to restore Good Manners to our Culture :)

 

As a line in a famous song is written: "....and let it begin with me..."

[jackparts]

It seems like the only negative dress comments came from the OP. Myself, I could care less what anyone wears as long as it doesn't smell. I do wonder OP, what does the way someone dresses bother you? Please understand, I am not condemning anything or anyone, just curious and do not understand why this thread keeps appearing when we all know what the answers will be. Except for the newbies so I guess I have my answer.

[cmstl97]

On my breakaway cruise last month, my coverup was deemed too short for the buffet and I was asked to put shorts or a towel on (of which I has neither since I had sent my SO to the room with our stuff while I grabbed food to bring back to the room). I wouldn't have been annoyed except for 1) how self conscious I became to ever go to the buffet after a day in port 2) apparently bathrobes are acceptable attire, but my (yes it was sort, but covered everything) cover up was not ok. So

I guess as long as your bottom reaches mid thigh, you can wear whatever 😁. Lesson learned about what to pack next time I guess.

 

We saw the exact same thing on Escape! Spa robes were okay, the model employed by NCL for the week who was shirtless in the food line was perfectly acceptable, but we saw a lady in what I would consider a nicer coverup be asked to put shorts on. She certainly looked nicer than most.

[nbsjcruiser]

Have to agree with the OP. I don't think its asking too much to have one dining room as business casual at a minimum. If NCL is about options, is it asking too much to have one dining room as at least semi formal? I don't think so.

[biker@sea]

I am much more inclined to critique someone's meal passing by me than ones attire.

 

I don't care what you look like.

 

I care about the food.

 

J.M.H.O.

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[biker@sea]

OH !!!!

 

What does bother me near food is that ladies that wear a ton of perfume that overwhelms a 20' circle around them.:eek:

 

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[swedish weave]

Have to agree with the OP. I don't think its asking too much to have one dining room as business casual at a minimum. If NCL is about options, is it asking too much to have one dining room as at least semi formal? I don't think so.

 

You are allowed to wear business casual or semi formal any time you choose.

 

You just can't dictate to others what they should wear. That is the cruise lines function, and they make decisions that provide the best results to their bottom line.

[Barb Nahoumi]

It wasn't so long ago when jeans were banned from the diningrooms. Now, they're ok as long as they are not torn.

 

As another poster wrote, the food is more important than what other people are wearing to dinner.

[ColinIllinois]

As you can see by reading this thread many people don't care what the dress code is. However, many also prefer a nicer ambiance in a specific dining room. If that dining room has an elevated dress code then it should be adhered to.

 

Just a simple matter of preference.

[roger001]

You are allowed to wear business casual or semi formal any time you choose.

 

You just can't dictate to others what they should wear. That is the cruise lines function, and they make decisions that provide the best results to their bottom line.

 

Actually, the cruise line does dictate it, on their web site, in the Freestyle Daily, and frequently posted at two of the restaurants' entrances. All guests should comply with those dictates, even if they disagree with those dictates or don't care, and NCL should enforce those dictates. For a guest, doing so is an appropriate group setting social behavior. And all guests have every opportunity to tell NCL, both while on the ship, and otherwise, their disagreement with those dictates, if they wish.

[Golfin55]

Has freestyle gone too far? Well, my spouse and I have just returned from a 10-day Caribbean cruise on the Gem. On one of the sea days, we were enjoying a very peaceful, relaxing morning sitting in the shade on two lounge chairs up on deck 13. Our tranquility was shattered when a woman sat down next to us and proceeded to CLIP HER TOENAILS, right there on the deck. Clip, clip, clip, drop, drop, drop... Gross!!

 

 

 

My spouse politely asked her to do her personal grooming in her cabin. She replied that she was free to do whatever she wanted, wherever she wanted. She then took out an entire pedicure kit and began opening the smelly nail polish remover. My spouse spoke to her again. She finally moved away.

 

 

I'm sorry... My wife's actions were horrific and inexcusable. She has since been corrected...[emoji379][emoji879][emoji378][emoji1015][emoji375][emoji1019] she will no longer clip her nails in public, private or anywhere.

Anyway, I'm single now and I'm looking

for wife # 8.

[Cruiser Bruiser]

Has freestyle gone too far? Well, my spouse and I have just returned from a 10-day Caribbean cruise on the Gem. On one of the sea days, we were enjoying a very peaceful, relaxing morning sitting in the shade on two lounge chairs up on deck 13. Our tranquility was shattered when a woman sat down next to us and proceeded to CLIP HER TOENAILS, right there on the deck. Clip, clip, clip, drop, drop, drop... Gross!!

 

On Nieuw Amsterdam two weeks ago, the guy in the cabin below me was clipping his finger nails over the railing and all the clippings were blowing into the balconies below him. Unfortunately rude people are everywhere.

 

I hope wiser heads prevail and that the aft dining room will always require long pants. NCL's recent success is based on its ability to fuse fun with a certain level of class. It doesn't make sense that they are sinking $700 million into making the ships nicer while encouraging folks to dress even more casually.

[Mistizoom]

Have to agree with the OP. I don't think its asking too much to have one dining room as business casual at a minimum. If NCL is about options, is it asking too much to have one dining room as at least semi formal? I don't think so.

 

And on the Getaway, there are two options. If you want to have at least business casual dress in a dining room, then you simply have to pay to eat in Le Bistro or Ocean Blue.

Edited February 15, 2016 by Mistizoom

[nbsjcruiser]

You are allowed to wear business casual or semi formal any time you choose.

 

You just can't dictate to others what they should wear.

 

So, you'd be ok if I show up in my bathing suit and flip flops?

[Suze10860]

So, you'd be ok if I show up in my bathing suit and flip flops?

 

I know you weren't asking me, but "yes" - I would be totally fine with it. Wouldn't affect my meal at all. Now, my husband and I might giggle about it quietly to each other, but I'd just consider that dinner-time entertainment. What kind of entertainment depends totally on how you look in said bathing suit.

 

Other than that, I do not care. Not at all. Can't understand why in the world anyone would. But that's just me...

[casofilia]

This behavior has nothing to do with Freestyle. It is simply a lack of manners.

 

I'm in total agreement with your comment.

 

Mike

[AndyCapn]

For some of us, the food is really all that matters. Serve it on paper plates, sit in a plastic booth, doesn't matter. But there is certainly a case to be made that dining can be an experience, and dressing up is part of the experience NCL is promising when they say a dress code is enforced in one of the dining rooms.

 

If NCL is going to offer a semi-formal option, it should be enforced and respected. After all, it's not like there aren't two other MDRs serving the exact same menu and shorts are permitted. Why should the OP have to grin and bear it when the advertised dress code isn't enforced?

 

Believe me, I get the "Don't let others ruin your vacation for you" replies. But it's not unreasonable to expect NCL to enforce its own rules.

[LrgPizza]

For some of us, the food is really all that matters. Serve it on paper plates, sit in a plastic booth, doesn't matter. But there is certainly a case to be made that dining can be an experience, and dressing up is part of the experience NCL is promising when they say a dress code is enforced in one of the dining rooms.

 

If NCL is going to offer a semi-formal option, it should be enforced and respected. After all, it's not like there aren't two other MDRs serving the exact same menu and shorts are permitted. Why should the OP have to grin and bear it when the advertised dress code isn't enforced?

 

Believe me, I get the "Don't let others ruin your vacation for you" replies. But it's not unreasonable to expect NCL to enforce its own rules.

 

NCL has never advertised the "semi-formal" option to which you refer in any of it's restaurants/dining rooms. In addition, the dress code was being enforced. As the OP stated, shorts were being permitted per the Asst. Hotel Director. As others have reported, shorts are now permitted in all MDRs on some ships. No one said anything about a dress code not being enforced, nor is there a semi-formal dress code anywhere.

Edited February 15, 2016 by LrgPizza

[bruadhin]

I know you weren't asking me, but "yes" - I would be totally fine with it. Wouldn't affect my meal at all. Now, my husband and I might giggle about it quietly to each other, but I'd just consider that dinner-time entertainment. What kind of entertainment depends totally on how you look in said bathing suit.

 

Other than that, I do not care. Not at all. Can't understand why in the world anyone would. But that's just me...

 

I'm with you. I would probably laugh at that person who was severely under-dressed for the occasion. Also, I would be extremely self-conscious if it was me that was under-dressed.

 

Now, if that person was sitting at a table with me, I would probably care more. Particularly if the clothing was dirty, in disrepair, or extremely tasteless.

[sjbdtz]

So, you'd be ok if I show up in my bathing suit and flip flops?

 

 

I assume you're cute, so as long as you don't mind me ogling you while you eat, I don't mind what you wear....or not.

 

 

Stephen

 

P.S. I assume everybody's cute, until proven otherwise. :D

 

 

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[NLH Arizona]

I'm with you. I would probably laugh at that person who was severely under-dressed for the occasion. Also, I would be extremely self-conscious if it was me that was under-dressed.

 

Now, if that person was sitting at a table with me, I would probably care more. Particularly if the clothing was dirty, in disrepair, or extremely tasteless.

I was once on a Crystal cruise and every time I went into the Casino for the first few days, there was this woman who didn't particularly dress like the rest of the passengers, she was quite eccentric in her dress. While talking to the Manager of the casino, I was told that her table mates giggled and made comments about the way she dressed and the lady didn't want to go back to the table because she felt uncomfortable and didn't want to ask for another table, because she thought it would be the same outcome. I went over and asked her if she would like to join the table I was at, since one of the passengers wasn't there. She smiled and accepted the invitation. The lady joined us that night and we found out she was a highly known and respected professor at the University of California Berkeley, not only was she probably the smartest person I've ever spoken with, she had a heart of gold, as never once did she say anything unkind of her previous table mates, her only comment was that they didn't mesh together. Did she change the way she dressed, no. Did anyone at my table care what she was wearing, no. Everyone just cared that they were able to meet this amazing woman. I'm glad that I judge a person by their character, rather than what they are wearing, because if I did, I would have missed some wonderful conversations. Every once in a while, like know, I think back about this and can't believe how those at her first table were so small minded that they would actually laugh because someone didn't dress the way they think they should. Oh well, I guess some care so much about what is on the outside, that they probably never see what great is in the inside of people. Edited February 15, 2016 by NLH Arizona

[bruadhin]

I was once on a Crystal cruise and every time I went into the Casino for the first few days, there was this woman who didn't particularly dress like the rest of the passengers, she was quite eccentric in her dress. While talking to the Manager of the casino, I was told that her table mates giggled and made comments about the way she dressed and the lady didn't want to go back to the table because she felt uncomfortable and didn't want to ask for another table, because she thought it would be the same outcome. I went over and asked her if she would like to join the table I was at, since one of the passengers wasn't there. She smiled and accepted the invitation. The lady joined us that night and we found out she was a highly known and respected professor at the University of California Berkeley, not only was she probably the smartest person I've ever spoken with, she had a heart of gold, as never once did she say anything unkind of her previous table mates, her only comment was that they didn't mesh together. Did she change the way she dressed, no. Did anyone at my table care what she was wearing, no. Everyone just cared that they were able to meet this amazing woman. I'm glad that I judge a person by their character, rather than what they are wearing, because if I did, I would have missed some wonderful conversations. Every once in a while, like know, I think back about this and can't believe how those at her first table were so small minded that they would actually laugh because someone didn't dress the way they think they should. Oh well, I guess some care so much about what is on the outside, that they probably never see what great is in the inside of people.

 

Unless eccentric is being used in code for something else, I believe you completely missed what I said in order to make a post so you could feel good about yourself.

 

Having a different sense of fashion is worlds away from being disrespectful.

[NLH Arizona]

Unless eccentric is being used in code for something else, I believe you completely missed what I said in order to make a post so you could feel good about yourself.

 

Having a different sense of fashion is worlds away from being disrespectful.

I used the word eccentric trying to be polite, I guess I could have just said that she was totally under dressed versus the rest of the passengers and you would probably consider her dress tasteless, as her clothes didn't match and she was somewhat disheveled.

 

No need to make myself feel better about myself, as I would never laugh at or feel uncomfortable about what someone else is wearing, as I'm only concerned with what I wear.

[JAMESCC]

I'm right there with you. What someone wears has never interfered with my dining experience ever.

 

Thank goodness there are a few of us out here! Who cares people.