Iluvtocruise01 Posted April 6, 2016 #1 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Just got notice Ismir Turkey has been cancelled replaced with day at sea. I understand the concerns but am still disappointed at the cancellation. This was one port where I wanted to go and I based my decision to book partially based on this fact. I hope some of the port fees will be at least refunded. If anyone hears anything else I appreciate it. Guess I'll stick to the Caribbean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobsfamily Posted April 6, 2016 #2 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Just got notice Ismir Turkey has been cancelled replaced with day at sea. I understand the concerns but am still disappointed at the cancellation. This was one port where I wanted to go and I based my decision to book partially based on this fact. I hope some of the port fees will be at least refunded. If anyone hears anything else I appreciate it. Guess I'll stick to the Caribbean! Regardless of wanting to go to this port I would have to agree with Carnival and pass it in today's world... Sorry for the "loss" but look at it this way, you might come back home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruizinisthebest Posted April 7, 2016 #3 Share Posted April 7, 2016 The right decision was made. I'm sure your cruise will be fantastic without that dangerous hot spot. Don't even think anymore about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliair Posted April 7, 2016 #4 Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) The right decision was made. I'm sure your cruise will be fantastic without that dangerous hot spot. Don't even think anymore about it! This is the reason why we stick closer to the US. We've thought about taking a Med cruise but since the last terror attack in Brussels, that cured us of wanting to go. Sure we can get killed in places like Mexico or Cozumel riding a moped, but Carnival and other cruise lines have their reason for avoiding certain ports. I don't think Princess has gone back to Acapulco since beheadings of drug cartel. I don't think any cruise line wants bad publicity of their passengers being targeted or terrorized. I've always thought that it was just a matter of time before something happens. Edited April 7, 2016 by elliair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadieN Posted April 7, 2016 #5 Share Posted April 7, 2016 There's a very long thread on the Princess board about this. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaaa Posted April 7, 2016 #6 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Avoiding unnecessary risk is not a loss. It's the prudent thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenna1983 Posted April 7, 2016 #7 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Right decision was made. I was on a MSC cruise in September that was to call on Tunis in Tunisia but was glad they canceled and replaced with Corfú over a place riddled by two targeted Isis attacks on foreigners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclop Posted April 7, 2016 #8 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Just got notice Ismir Turkey has been cancelled replaced with day at sea. I understand the concerns but am still disappointed at the cancellation. This was one port where I wanted to go and I based my decision to book partially based on this fact. I hope some of the port fees will be at least refunded. If anyone hears anything else I appreciate it. Guess I'll stick to the Caribbean! Better safe then sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted April 7, 2016 #9 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Sorry that it was cancelled but very understandable. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthlessBoss Posted April 7, 2016 #10 Share Posted April 7, 2016 I am pretty sure a very very small percentage of Turkish folk want to harm westerners not to mention how many westerners live in its major cities...think twice before tarring one group of people with the same brush. Been there and its lovely, have a friend who has just moved there for good as hes met a Turkish lady. Would I go there on a cruise? Yup...and I would exercise the same caution as I do in my home city. I do think that Carnival's decision was the right one though where public views are concerned. Turkey is a huge holiday location and although holidays are much cheaper Brits are still flying there and back each week at the moment. Although you were trying to sound sensible, the facts to not go there are obvious. You'd be dealing with just a few bad seeds, but that's all it takes when killing becomes their way of thinking and believing. How can you exercise caution like in your home city when the person who looks innocent is standing next to you wearing hidden bombs? Losing their own life is their gift to another life as they believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobsfamily Posted April 7, 2016 #11 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Although you were trying to sound sensible, the facts to not go there are obvious. You'd be dealing with just a few bad seeds, but that's all it takes when killing becomes their way of thinking and believing. How can you exercise caution like in your home city when the person who looks innocent is standing next to you wearing hidden bombs? Losing their own life is their gift to another life as they believe. Have to completely agree, the view of life and values are so different from what I grew up with I'm not sure there is a common ground.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvetwater Posted April 7, 2016 #12 Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) Although you were trying to sound sensible, the facts to not go there are obvious. You'd be dealing with just a few bad seeds, but that's all it takes when killing becomes their way of thinking and believing. How can you exercise caution like in your home city when the person who looks innocent is standing next to you wearing hidden bombs? Losing their own life is their gift to another life as they believe. Maybe I should explain in detail my thinking: There are highly likely to be 'bad seeds' in my home city (and many others around the world) and its neighbouring ones also. PREVENT (an organisation which encourages public sector workers to report any suspicions of extremism) have made arrests in and around the West Midlands and Warwickshire this year. For those of you stateside, many British cities are incredibly multicultural and the middle of the UK where I live has cities with a big influx of those from parts of Asia. I go to work in a suburb of the city where the community is over 50% muslim coming from Asia and North Africa. I then teach a class which is 70% muslim in a school that has a 50% Pakistani intake. It is important to be aware of your surroundings and avoid large crowds if possible but also to not look at every muslim as a terrorist. So yep....same caution. I think urban dwelling Brits have a certain 'mode' when in cities that some of our other Western friends haven't had to develop. Unfortunately incidents do happen and it is sad that many are needlessly killed. But I feel that in a majority of European cities (bigger risk to Turkey due to its borders) my risk is the same so I will holiday in Europe as usual. Edited April 7, 2016 by Velvetwater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballMomof4 Posted April 7, 2016 #13 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Maybe I should explain in detail my thinking: There are highly likely to be 'bad seeds' in my home city (and many others around the world) and its neighbouring ones also. PREVENT (an organisation which encourages public sector workers to report any suspicions of extremism) have made arrests in and around the West Midlands and Warwickshire this year. For those of you stateside, many British cities are incredibly multicultural and the middle of the UK where I live has cities with a big influx of those from parts of Asia. I go to work in a suburb of the city where the community is over 50% muslim coming from Asia and North Africa. I then teach a class which is 70% muslim in a school that has a 50% Pakistani intake. It is important to be aware of your surroundings and avoid large crowds if possible but also to not look at every muslim as a terrorist. So yep....same caution. I think urban dwelling Brits have a certain 'mode' when in cities that some of our other Western friends haven't had to develop. Unfortunately incidents do happen and it is sad that many are needlessly killed. But I feel that in a majority of European cities (bigger risk to Turkey due to its borders) my risk is the same so I will holiday in Europe as usual. Agreed Velvetwater (holy cow! mark the calendar! hahahaha) I believe Brits do have a different reality these days than Americans do, sadly. While I am saddened at losing the port - I was very much looking forward to a trip to Ephesus and then spending time in Izmir at the bazaar - I also recognize that it is not a great idea at this moment in time. Hopefully there will be a day when we can travel safely to all the places we want to see, but today is just not that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvetwater Posted April 8, 2016 #14 Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) Agreed Velvetwater (holy cow! mark the calendar! hahahaha) Haha indeed! From what I have read on CC news Carnival has been the last (or one of) major cruiseline to drop Turkey...which I find surprising. Edited April 8, 2016 by Velvetwater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballMomof4 Posted April 8, 2016 #15 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Haha indeed! From what I have read on CC news Carnival has been the last (or one of) major cruiseline to drop Turkey...which I find surprising. :D:D:D I am disappointed about Izmir, but I totally get it. I think they held out because it was our only non EU stop and they wanted to avoid the VAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond659 Posted April 11, 2016 #16 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Please do not judge me because i am a Turkish citizen, but i think that Izmir is one of the safest cities in this area. Cancelling a stop to Izmir looks like more psychological than security risc. I personally feel more afraid while walking around train stations of Rome, Milano or Genova because of drug user homeless people, but never saw any company cancelling their stop on Rome. I have a cruise going to Paris this month, which is a city had several terrorist attacks in last year. And the main reason companies cancelling their cruises to Istanbul is because of the construction work done in port and not having enough space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08Rubicon Posted April 11, 2016 #17 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Please do not judge me because i am a Turkish citizen, but i think that Izmir is one of the safest cities in this area. Cancelling a stop to Izmir looks like more psychological than security risc.I personally feel more afraid while walking around train stations of Rome, Milano or Genova because of drug user homeless people, but never saw any company cancelling their stop on Rome. I have a cruise going to Paris this month, which is a city had several terrorist attacks in last year. And the main reason companies cancelling their cruises to Istanbul is because of the construction work done in port and not having enough space. Hey no judgment from here--I'd rather stop in Izmir too. Changing our lifestyle because of extremist threats plays into their narrative. The likelihood of anything happening is extremely low and equal to anywhere else throughout the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexdillinger Posted April 11, 2016 #18 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I wish we were still going to Izmir also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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