Talk About Your Ultimate Bad Day!!!

[Termig8r]

Just off the Valor on June 12th. During our stop in Aruba two couples (I am going to assume they were overly intoxicated) got back on board and starting fighting. Not just arguing, but out of control brawling. It was so bad that the police in Aruba were brought on board. Once they got on the boat they realized the couples fighting were the same couples being sought for stealing over $500 of merchandise from a store in Aruba and were promptly taken into custody by the authorities in Aruba...and left behind by the Valor in Aruba.

[tallnthensome]

Sounds like some high class trash there ..... Glad to hear they were off the ship and hopefully in jail. Hope they're miserable, broke, and stuck there after that. Hopefully lesson learned ......

[RjayB]

You say 2 couples started fighting, you mean one couple (man/woman) were fighting with another couple? Or did you mean that one couple were fighting with each other?

 

Also, did the authorities actually board the ship or did they meet Carnival security at the door?

 

Thanks for the clarification :)

[Termig8r]

Two couples...two men/two women. They were a group together. And the authorities boarded the ship in Aruba...but it might as well have been at the door (on the same deck and right around the corner from the gangway). One of the men was at the medical center getting treated for his fight related injuries.

[GradUT]

It might have been a bad day for the couples involved, but it certainly added a little excitement for everyone else on the cruise. Now you all can go back with a crazy story for your friends about your cruise.

[chengkp75]

You say 2 couples started fighting, you mean one couple (man/woman) were fighting with another couple? Or did you mean that one couple were fighting with each other?

 

Also, did the authorities actually board the ship or did they meet Carnival security at the door?

 

Thanks for the clarification :)

 

May I ask why you asked whether the local LEO's boarded the vessel or not? When a ship is in the territorial waters of a country, both the flag state and the port state (the country the ship is in port) have jurisdiction over the vessel. Since these two jurisdictions overlap, and may not be compatible legally, the solution is that the port state will not exercise its jurisdiction unless the "foreign vessel threatens the port state or when activities on board the foreign vessel disturb the peace and tranquility of the port". Fighting on the ship can be considered disturbing to the peace of the port, and certainly the ship can request assistance from the port state at any time, so local LEO's have the right to make arrests aboard cruise ships flying the flag of another country.

[sgttami]

It might have been a bad day for the couples involved, but it certainly added a little excitement for everyone else on the cruise. Now you all can go back with a crazy story for your friends about your cruise.

 

On one of my cruises on Splendor I was witness to a woman being arrested for shoplifting in the ship's gift shop. She was in her 70's and was taken off the ship when we docked in Pt. Canaveral. It appeared she was traveling solo.

 

The same night a crew member was taken away in handcuffs in the casino for cheating at the blackjack table and two guys (passengers)were having a lover's quarrel at the casino bar and one ended up pushing the other down the stairs adjacent to the bar.

 

Talk about FUN ships! (lol) If I didn't see it, I wouldn't have believed it!

[Computer Nerd]

Just off the Valor on June 12th. During our stop in Aruba two couples (I am going to assume they were overly intoxicated) got back on board and starting fighting. Not just arguing, but out of control brawling. It was so bad that the police in Aruba were brought on board. Once they got on the boat they realized the couples fighting were the same couples being sought for stealing over $500 of merchandise from a store in Aruba and were promptly taken into custody by the authorities in Aruba...and left behind by the Valor in Aruba.

 

congrats to the police for catching the thieves.

[ryano]

Cue our broken record Havingfun2010 to come along and tell us how "Wal Mart" Carnival is and how this kind of stuff NEVER happens on Royal Caribbean in 4, 3, 2........

Edited June 13, 2016 by ryano

[emcelh]

On one of my cruises on Splendor I was witness to a woman being arrested for shoplifting in the ship's gift shop. She was in her 70's and was taken off the ship when we docked in Pt. Canaveral. It appeared she was traveling solo.

 

The same night a crew member was taken away in handcuffs in the casino for cheating at the blackjack table and two guys (passengers)were having a lover's quarrel at the casino bar and one ended up pushing the other down the stairs adjacent to the bar.

 

Talk about FUN ships! (lol) If I didn't see it, I wouldn't have believed it!

 

Crew members are allowed to gamble in the ship's casino?

[Termig8r]

Cue our broken record Havingfun2010 to come along and tell us how "Wal Mart" Carnival is and how this kind of stuff NEVER happens on Royal Caribbean in 4, 3, 2........

 

You can see affluent people in Wal Mart all the time, but you can't see trailer trash in Nordstroms. Just sayin'.

[repo-cruiser]

You can see affluent people in Wal Mart all the time, but you can't see trailer trash in Nordstroms. Just sayin'.

 

You mean like these trailers?

 

"Multimillion-dollar properties are no rarity at Paradise Cove, the Malibu, Calif., mobile-home community where the couple, both retired from the film industry, this spring purchased a two-bedroom, 1,800-square-foot trailer for $1.25 million. Earlier this year, a trailer in the park—which in the past has included residents like actor Matthew McConaughey—sold for $2.55 million. And in July, a four-bedroom, 2,200-square-foot trailer with a hot tub and two-car garage went on the market for $3.75 million.":)

[SadieN]

Always miss the fun stuff. Only witnessed a fight in the Laundry room on a HAL ship.

 

 

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[sgttami]

Crew members are allowed to gamble in the ship's casino?

 

This crew member was a blackjack dealer.

[sc4125]

Cue our broken record Havingfun2010 to come along and tell us how "Wal Mart" Carnival is and how this kind of stuff NEVER happens on Royal Caribbean in 4, 3, 2........

 

Now that's funny. Cracks me up that the people who HATE CCL are always on the CCL boards.

[derek005]

Now that's funny. Cracks me up that the people who HATE CCL are always on the CCL boards.

 

This is true!

[lady_cruiser]

Cue our broken record Havingfun2010 to come along and tell us how "Wal Mart" Carnival is and how this kind of stuff NEVER happens on Royal Caribbean in 4, 3, 2........

 

LOL! Three years ago my sister and I were on a "Royal Caribbean" ship when a group of officers were surrounded a very upset lady. It seemed that her "so call husband" had his girl friend onboard (different cabin and deck naturally) . When we made our last stopped in Cozumel both the husband and girl friend emptied his safe of every; passports, money, credit cards, etc. Leaving this woman high and dry with only the few dollars she had on her. Then both packed backpacks with clothes, got off the ship and never re-boarded the ship for the return trip home. We were standing at the customer service desk checking our account when the wife was on the phone speaking to someone back home telling them what happened and asking for someone to meet her when the ship docked in Galveston so she could settled her account. Once we left C.S. we never saw her again so we had hoped that a family or friend was there to meet her in Galveston and give her the support she needed.

 

So if Carnival is a Walmart does this makes Royal Caribbean a Target? :p

[Computer Nerd]

Now that's funny. Cracks me up that the people who HATE CCL are always on the CCL boards.

 

or have never sailled ccl. ;)

[ryano]

LOL! Three years ago my sister and I were on a "Royal Caribbean" ship when a group of officers were surrounded a very upset lady. It seemed that her "so call husband" had his girl friend onboard (different cabin and deck naturally) . When we made our last stopped in Cozumel both the husband and girl friend emptied his safe of every; passports, money, credit cards, etc. Leaving this woman high and dry with only the few dollars she had on her. Then both packed backpacks with clothes, got off the ship and never re-boarded the ship for the return trip home. We were standing at the customer service desk checking our account when the wife was on the phone speaking to someone back home telling them what happened and asking for someone to meet her when the ship docked in Galveston so she could settled her account. Once we left C.S. we never saw her again so we had hoped that a family or friend was there to meet her in Galveston and give her the support she needed.

 

So if Carnival is a Walmart does this makes Royal Caribbean a Target? :p

 

My last cruise on Freedom of the Seas there was a couple thrown off in Falmouth for "domestic violence". Evidently he got flirty with the ladies, she didnt like it, they got in a huge fight and were kicked off the ship.

 

I see them carrying their luggage through the port area as we are leaving the dock and she commences to give the Bridge the bird and then turn around and drop her pants and moon them. There were 11 people kicked off the ship that trip for fights, drugs and other sorts of guest conduct policy violations.

 

Nah, Id say Royal is pretty Wal Mart too ;) Whatever thats supposed to mean.

Edited June 14, 2016 by ryano

[RjayB]

May I ask why you asked whether the local LEO's boarded the vessel or not? When a ship is in the territorial waters of a country, both the flag state and the port state (the country the ship is in port) have jurisdiction over the vessel. Since these two jurisdictions overlap, and may not be compatible legally, the solution is that the port state will not exercise its jurisdiction unless the "foreign vessel threatens the port state or when activities on board the foreign vessel disturb the peace and tranquility of the port". Fighting on the ship can be considered disturbing to the peace of the port, and certainly the ship can request assistance from the port state at any time, so local LEO's have the right to make arrests aboard cruise ships flying the flag of another country.

 

 

That is exactly why I asked :) I was wondering if Carnival security prefers to meet authorities at the door instead of having them come on board to secure the individuals. Not questioning the jurisdiction, but wondering if it adds paperwork or other procedural operations that could be circumvented if they met on the dock.

[Termig8r]

That is exactly why I asked :) I was wondering if Carnival security prefers to meet authorities at the door instead of having them come on board to secure the individuals. Not questioning the jurisdiction, but wondering if it adds paperwork or other procedural operations that could be circumvented if they met on the dock.

 

I think since the guy was in the medical office...and that was right there at the door, they let the Aruban police board. Carnival security took care of it up to that point (getting them down to medical, etc.).