Loonbeam Posted February 2, 2017 #326 Share Posted February 2, 2017 I also suspect a full drydock would be involved to make a change like this. Certainly not just diver activity. First off, "upgrading" the azipods to the newer model would most likely require a complete restructuring of the hull framework where the pods mount, so as you say, this is not really economically viable. Secondly, not sure what "real lasting repairs" means. If your mechanic repairs the timing belt on your car, and then a couple of years later has to repair a leaking valve seal, was the timing belt not a "real lasting repair". To the best of my knowledge, no two failures of the Star's azipods have been repeated failures, and one was caused by poor workmanship at the US shipyard where the pods were overhauled, by the US shipyard workers, and under the supervision of the manufacturer's tech reps. Thirdly, ABB does not keep complete azipods sitting around "on the shelf", just in case one is needed somewhere. They are built to order, so getting one would require somewhere in the 6-12 month time frame, depending on the current production schedule, and the fact that the older V model is no longer made. And finally, I'm not convinced the latest failure is in the azipod, as you must understand that a great deal of the control system needed to operate the pod is not in the pod, but up in the ship. Any failure of a major component of this control system will render the azipod inoperable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Port Power Posted February 2, 2017 #327 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) This post was duplicated as the new format kicked in while saving it. Weird! Edited February 2, 2017 by Port Power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicruisers51 Posted February 2, 2017 #328 Share Posted February 2, 2017 This post was duplicated as the new format kicked in while saving it. Weird! Hi Carol. Not liking this new layout but guess like most things will get used to it. Don't like that you can't put a heading in - I found that useful. Nothing really stands out now! Also full signatures don't fully show up. I have 3 links to spreadsheet for the 3 legs we are on. What people see needs to be instantaneous not accessed by 'pushing buttons'. Sue :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted February 2, 2017 #329 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Hi Carol. Not liking this new layout but guess like most things will get used to it. Don't like that you can't put a heading in - I found that useful. Nothing really stands out now! Also full signatures don't fully show up. I have 3 links to spreadsheet for the 3 legs we are on. What people see needs to be instantaneous not accessed by 'pushing buttons'. Sue :) Do you need those links then when not posting in the rollcalls? The easy solution is to not have them in the sig block but in your post content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted February 2, 2017 #330 Share Posted February 2, 2017 I heard of a similar problem on the USS Voyager with its warp coils. While I am not an engineer, I believe that warp coils are an integral part of a ship's warp drive. Mounted within the warp nacelles, the coils used the plasma generated by the warp core to create a subspace displacement field that allows propulsion. Warp coils were typically composed of cast verterium cortenide surrounding a core of densified tungsten-cobalt-magnesium. Hence, it takes a significant lead time to manufacture a replacement coil. I wish you a long and prosperous cruise. Unless NCL have access to a hyper drive, then some of this technology isn't available for another 300 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havenfan Posted February 2, 2017 #331 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Unless NCL have access to a hyper drive, then some of this technology isn't available for another 300 years. If you're going to play, you should play right. We only have to wait 46 years. https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=when+was+the+warp+drive+invented Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted February 3, 2017 #332 Share Posted February 3, 2017 If you're going to play, you should play right. We only have to wait 46 years.https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=when+was+the+warp+drive+invented 46 years or 300, it is still not available, unless they have a hyper drive to be able to get that technology from the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriseth Posted February 3, 2017 #333 Share Posted February 3, 2017 OK The ship still has problems If you don't like the reply then log on to other web sites to find out, you're going to have problem getting your stated offer!!!!! Type in Norwegian Star Azipods problems quite simple Regards Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussie cruzer Posted February 3, 2017 #334 Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) OK The ship still has problems If you don't like the reply then log on to other web sites to find out, you're going to have problem getting your stated offer!!!!! Type in Norwegian Star Azipods problems quite simple Regards Sent from my iPad using Forums Ncl are saying the ship will be fixed on the Feb 18 cruise. Quote We have been given clearance that the current issue with the Norwegian Star will be resolved with the Feb. 18 sailing. We have done an itinerary change to that sailing to make this happen, which we are communicating to guest as we speak.. All should be fine for the future sailing. New Itinerary for 18 th Cruise Sat Auckland, New Zealand overnight Sun Auckland, New Zealand overnight 6:00 pm Mon At Sea Tue At Sea Wed At Sea Thu Port Kembla, Australia 8:00 am 6:00 pm Fri Sydney, Australia 8:00 am 6:00 pm Sat At Sea Sun At Sea Mon Airlie Beach, Australia 7:00 am 3:00 pm Tue Cairns, Australia 8:00 am 6:00 pm Wed At Sea Thu At Sea Fri Darwin, Australia 8:00 am 5:00 pm Sat At Sea Sun Komodo, Indonesia 7:00 am 2:00 pm Mon At Sea Tue At Sea Wed Port Klang, Malaysia 7:00 am 4:00 pm Thu Singapore, Singapore 7:00 am Edited February 3, 2017 by aussie cruzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveSplasher Posted February 9, 2017 #335 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Norwegian Star seems to be holding outside of Melbourne at 1.3knots. Not sure if Marine Traffic is showing the wrong information or if she is really holding there? Anyone on board can confirm this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casofilia Posted February 9, 2017 #336 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Will someone please post the original itinerary so we can see what the changes are. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzCanuck Posted February 9, 2017 #337 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Norwegian Star seems to be holding outside of Melbourne at 1.3knots. Not sure if Marine Traffic is showing the wrong information or if she is really holding there? Anyone on board can confirm this? Uh-oh. I hope that it is wrong information.. otherwise looks like something is seriously wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted February 9, 2017 #338 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Uh-oh. I hope that it is wrong information.. otherwise looks like something is seriously wrong! Been there about 7 hours, and it is listed in AIS as "not under command", which means she has no propulsion. Surprising that they are waiting that long to get a tug out there, even if they are trying to fix it. Being so close, they should have a tug standing by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internetwhiz Posted February 9, 2017 #339 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Two minutes ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areobee Posted February 9, 2017 #340 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Latest info... NOT GOOD... Well Guess what guys... Star is dead in the water again. i have two people on board (im being vague 'cause they said two people were kicked off the ship for being outspoken) and they just said ship has not moved since 3am feb 10. (3 hours) crew is not giving any word. In reading below post, we tried and tried to cancel and get money back before the cruise and NCL refused. You save up for years and years for a trip of a lifetime and its trashed and ruined because of greed. Sad.. I will send more updates as i get them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areobee Posted February 9, 2017 #341 Share Posted February 9, 2017 YUP.. my wife is on board... she just sent me word that ship has not moved for 3 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areobee Posted February 9, 2017 #342 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Well Guess what guys... Star is dead in the water again. i have two people on board (im being vague 'cause they said two people were kicked off the ship for being outspoken) and they just said ship has not moved since 3am feb 10. (3 hours) crew is not giving any word. In reading below post, we tried and tried to cancel and get money back before the cruise and NCL refused. You save up for years and years for a trip of a lifetime and its trashed and ruined because of greed. Sad.. I will send more updates as i get them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublebzz Posted February 9, 2017 #343 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Been there about 7 hours, and it is listed in AIS as "not under command", which means she has no propulsion. Surprising that they are waiting that long to get a tug out there, even if they are trying to fix it. Being so close, they should have a tug standing by. "Not under command" means there is no control of the engines. The international signal for this condition is two red masthead lights one over the other or two red balls in daylight. The facts that there are no tugs in the vicinity and ships' trackers are showing headway of 1.7 knots may mean they are testing the engines or undergoing some sort of repairs. Lets hope its the latter until someone can clarify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backsbanny Posted February 9, 2017 #344 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Lets hope they fix it quickly...too much bad publicity for ncl with the star the previous days...this would cause serious trouble to the company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted February 9, 2017 #345 Share Posted February 9, 2017 "Not under command" means there is no control of the engines. The international signal for this condition is two red masthead lights one over the other or two red balls in daylight. The facts that there are no tugs in the vicinity and ships' trackers are showing headway of 1.7 knots may mean they are testing the engines or undergoing some sort of repairs. Lets hope its the latter until someone can clarify. I'm aware of what NUC means, and how it's signaled. However, since neither you nor I are there, we can't see the navigation lights or day signs. I don't believe that the Navigation Officer would enter NUC in the AIS system unless they were actually NUC. The fact that they are most likely drifting at a knot and a half is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of a son of a ... Posted February 9, 2017 #346 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Looks like a damn odd location to test engines. Seems to be a high traffic area. Would a tug along side appear on the Marine Traffic site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzCanuck Posted February 9, 2017 #347 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Looks like a damn odd location to test engines. Seems to be a high traffic area. Would a tug along side appear on the Marine Traffic site? It would show. They have travelled about 230nm from Melbourne (according to sea-scanner), quite a ways from the nearest heavy equipment. (I think). http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:145/centery:-39/zoom:8 (I think that link will work). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areobee Posted February 9, 2017 #348 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Feb 10, 2017... The Star is dead in the water drifting .. waiting for tugs. People were just told they will be held on ship for 7 days. They cannot leave ship because they don't want people talking to press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicruisers51 Posted February 9, 2017 #349 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Feb 10, 2017... The Star is dead in the water drifting .. waiting for tugs. People were just told they will be held on ship for 7 days. They cannot leave ship because they don't want people talking to press. OMG - Prisoners!!!! How awful. I wonder if the ship will make New Zealand then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areobee Posted February 9, 2017 #350 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Just confirmed. The Star is dead in the water drifting. I am contact with my wife who is on board. They are waiting on tugs. People are being told they will have to remain on ship for 7 days. They cannot leave ship. They don't want people talking to press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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