bob brown Posted March 21, 2017 #51 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I am somewhat surprised that NCL is not staying with Meyer Weft...I have always preferred their builds.... As far as Project Leonardo...one thing I hope they have, is a forward Spinnaker Lounge, or something like the design of the new Bliss....miss that the most on the 'Away' classes... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellaloomp Posted March 21, 2017 #52 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I like the new look. Will miss the funnel, but the new design has a sleek look. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovetotravel1977 Posted March 21, 2017 #53 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Where do you think the second pool will be located on the new NCL ships? I see one by the big screen, so assuming that is the "main" pool area? Or maybe that is Spice? And the other at the other end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London-Calling Posted March 21, 2017 #54 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I am somewhat surprised that NCL is not staying with Meyer Weft...I have always preferred their builds...one thing I hope they have, is a forward Spinnaker Lounge.. Frank Del Rio has a strong relationship with Fincantieri. They have built ships for him in the past. The Seaside deck plans will give us a good idea what is possible in terms of public spaces. I appreciate that NCL will make/brand spaces to their own requirements, but certain design structures will not be able to be changed. Seaside deck 16 has a front facing 'VIP' lounge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyc511 Posted March 21, 2017 #55 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Nice looking - similarity to other ships notwithstanding. And a respectable number of passengers. I admit that we are only looking at an artist's rendition, but I still don't see someplace quiet and shady to sit and relax and just enjoy the actual cruising part of the cruise. I have not been on the "Aways," but on "Jewel" class ships there was really no place. On Gem, a smattering of lounge chairs on deck 13, alongside the running track and immediately adjacent to whatever loud band is catering to line dancing or sexy knees contests. On the "Promenade," which traditionally is where lounge chairs have been in abundance aboard ships, the GEM had 10 chairs. Ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted March 21, 2017 #56 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I have not been on the "Aways," but on "Jewel" class ships there was really no place. On BA/GA and Escape, the Waterfront is exactly what you describe. The amount of sun/shade will differ depending on ship position and sun position. Sometimes, port side has more shade than starboard, for ex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London-Calling Posted March 26, 2017 #57 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Here is a youtube slide show comparing Leoanardo to Seaside: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiser Bruiser Posted March 30, 2017 #58 Share Posted March 30, 2017 NCL's round aft reminds me of a Star Trek Enterprise.. Thanks for this side-by-side comparison! I like Seaside's more linear approach, but NCL's more curved design has appeal, too. As you suggested earlier, though, it is all too likely NCL will fill Leonardo's top deck with "stuff." I do like the attempt to provide shade on the bottom deck; that's a problem with most ships today (i.e the lack thereof). Also, I wonder if NCL is going to step away from their Norwegian "...." naming convention and with Leonardo. MV Leonardo, MV Botticelli, MV some other Renaissance artist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare uneamie Posted March 30, 2017 #59 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I am glad to see that they put the life boats back under a deck. I don't like how they positioned them on the Breakaway. Also, I wonder if they did something to improve the "tiny balcony" like the ones on Breakaway. Heaven forbid they give people some leg room. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted March 30, 2017 #60 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Also, I wonder if they did something to improve the "tiny balcony" like the ones on Breakaway. Heaven forbid they give people some leg room. LOL After BA/GA, NCL hasn't made any standard balconies that small. Escape, Joy, Bliss, and BA Plus 4 all have deeper standard balconies than BA/GA. NCL must have learned their lesson so I doubt that they would go backwrds with "Leonardo". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiser Bruiser Posted April 6, 2017 #61 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I am somewhat surprised that NCL is not staying with Meyer Weft...I have always preferred their builds.... As far as Project Leonardo...one thing I hope they have, is a forward Spinnaker Lounge, or something like the design of the new Bliss....miss that the most on the 'Away' classes... I very much hope this class of ships will offer studios. No mention of those, yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreestyleNovice Posted April 6, 2017 #62 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I very much hope this class of ships will offer studios. No mention of those, yet. With the succes of the solo cabins I doubt that NCL/Fincantieri would leave them out but the smaller upper structure design of Seaside/Leonardo means a Studio complex will have to be mid ship, where a large portion of the regular inside cabins are.. But the lower pax number on Leonardo is also a straight derivative from that same design so my guess is NCL took that in account. Hopefully. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London-Calling Posted June 24, 2017 #63 Share Posted June 24, 2017 ...but why is 'Leonardo' called 'Leonardo'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreestyleNovice Posted June 24, 2017 #64 Share Posted June 24, 2017 ...but why is 'Leonardo' called 'Leonardo'? Probably free to the Italian Leonardo Da Vinci as an inventor, artist and scientist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Moon Posted August 8, 2017 #65 Share Posted August 8, 2017 I prefer Meyer Weft ships to that of Fincanteri, so sorry to see the change of builders. I really liked NCL's wrap to hide the smokestack. Not a fan of the exposed tubes on the Leonardo ship and the MSC ship. I like the drawing of the NCL ship to that of the MSC ship. Thanks to those posters who posted the pictures of the ships and pointed out the differences! Much appreciated. Fingers crossed that the hull art will be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff79 Posted April 19, 2019 #66 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Has someone read some information/rumors if the first ship will deliver early or late in 2022? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LrgPizza Posted April 19, 2019 #67 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Steff79 said: Has someone read some information/rumors if the first ship will deliver early or late in 2022? The cruise ship order book shows the first one delivering in March, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff79 Posted November 20, 2019 #68 Share Posted November 20, 2019 googled if there are some news to Leonardo, found http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articles/348360/norwegian-eyes-lng-powered-ships-after-leonardo-class-launch Leonardo lauches in June 2022, more information to routes in April 2020?, and no LNG ship is planned for Leonardo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff79 Posted May 15, 2020 #69 Share Posted May 15, 2020 https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/22946-norwegian-plans-phased-return-to-service.html Del Rio says the new ships will have a delay between 12 - 18 Month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted May 15, 2020 #70 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Steff79 said: Del Rio says the new ships will have a delay between 12 - 18 Month. Fincantieri (builder of the Leonardo ships) was closed for more than a month and even when they re-opened, it was with a greatly reduced staff (around 10%). It will take time to catch up with the workload as they still aren't back to "normal" with staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff79 Posted May 15, 2020 #71 Share Posted May 15, 2020 yes, Meyer Werft have some Problems too. I think the cruise lines are not angry about that, most would welcome to become the ships later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff79 Posted August 2, 2020 #72 Share Posted August 2, 2020 what does the part with the Leonardo ships mean? nothing is known exactly? https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/news/fincantieri-swings-first-half-loss-has-no-order-cancellations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted August 2, 2020 #73 Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Steff79 said: what does the part with the Leonardo ships mean? nothing is known exactly? https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/news/fincantieri-swings-first-half-loss-has-no-order-cancellations I suspect it means that the first delivery will not be in 2022, and the "agreed to changes" may be covid required changes, but yes, neither Fincantieri nor NCL wish to disclose the terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted August 2, 2020 #74 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Steff79 said: what does the part with the Leonardo ships mean? nothing is known exactly? https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/news/fincantieri-swings-first-half-loss-has-no-order-cancellations Also... "Fincantieri referred to an extension for Norwegian Cruise Line along with 'further agreed changes' to four vessels in the orderbook, without giving detail. NCL has the new Leonardo class under development." ...what about the other 2? Edited August 2, 2020 by Two Wheels Only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff79 Posted August 9, 2020 #75 Share Posted August 9, 2020 maybe, maybe not? who knows https://www.cgarchitect.com/images/26b49519 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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