naughtybuoy Posted June 7, 2017 #126 Share Posted June 7, 2017 This thread has gone so off topic. Does anyone know what actually happened on Oasis? Rumor has it someone fainted over the $7.95 room service charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimAOk1945 Posted June 7, 2017 #127 Share Posted June 7, 2017 I guess we will never know what actually happened on Oasis. This thread has gone waaaaay off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted June 7, 2017 #128 Share Posted June 7, 2017 I'll try to put a full stop to the "lifeboat capacity vs. berth" topic, as someone who deals with SOLAS regulations every working day of my 42 year career. Since someone did a "mike drop" in a previous post, yet their facts were not quite correct, I will jump in. Yes, in fact, a passenger ship can have more "berths" or beds for passengers than lifeboat capacity. This is to give those desiring more than two to a cabin the choice of various cabin types. However, the ship will be considered "sold out" when the number of passengers equals the lifeboat capacity. As cruzer2 mentions there can be cases where because of high demand for 3/4th guests in cabins, that there are cabins unsold on a sold out cruise. The cruise line tries to avoid this by placing a stop on 3/4th guest bookings if it looks like this is going to happen to force groups to book multiple cabins. And, to be factual, there is no legal requirement that all passengers be accommodated in lifeboats. Princess, for one, and maybe HAL have some passenger muster stations use a MES (Marine Evacuation System, the chute and large liferaft cluster), which is perfectly legal. SOLAS requires lifeboat/liferaft capacity equal to 50% of total people onboard on each side of the ship, and a total lifeboat/liferaft capacity equal to 125% of all people onboard (note I say all people onboard, which means passengers and crew). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Dancer Posted June 7, 2017 #129 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Can't top that. Hail to the Chief :D Thank you Sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted June 7, 2017 #130 Share Posted June 7, 2017 I'll try to put a full stop to the "lifeboat capacity vs. berth" topic, as someone who deals with SOLAS regulations every working day of my 42 year career. Since someone did a "mike drop" in a previous post, yet their facts were not quite correct, I will jump in. Yes, in fact, a passenger ship can have more "berths" or beds for passengers than lifeboat capacity. This is to give those desiring more than two to a cabin the choice of various cabin types. However, the ship will be considered "sold out" when the number of passengers equals the lifeboat capacity. As cruzer2 mentions there can be cases where because of high demand for 3/4th guests in cabins, that there are cabins unsold on a sold out cruise. The cruise line tries to avoid this by placing a stop on 3/4th guest bookings if it looks like this is going to happen to force groups to book multiple cabins. And, to be factual, there is no legal requirement that all passengers be accommodated in lifeboats. Princess, for one, and maybe HAL have some passenger muster stations use a MES (Marine Evacuation System, the chute and large liferaft cluster), which is perfectly legal. SOLAS requires lifeboat/liferaft capacity equal to 50% of total people onboard on each side of the ship, and a total lifeboat/liferaft capacity equal to 125% of all people onboard (note I say all people onboard, which means passengers and crew). I was hoping you would stop by. How do you find all of these threads? The title of the thread could not have provided a clue, since, as has been noted by many, this thread went off topic (basically because of the lack of topic). Do you have a spy among us? At any rate, thanks for stopping by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Dancer Posted June 7, 2017 #131 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Cuizer2 You handled yourself with class:D Cruised with you on Enchantment/Balt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted June 7, 2017 #132 Share Posted June 7, 2017 This thread has gone so off topic. Does anyone know what actually happened on Oasis? Exactly does anyone know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted June 7, 2017 #133 Share Posted June 7, 2017 I'll try to put a full stop to the "lifeboat capacity vs. berth" topic, as someone who deals with SOLAS regulations every working day of my 42 year career. Since someone did a "mike drop" in a previous post, yet their facts were not quite correct, I will jump in. Yes, in fact, a passenger ship can have more "berths" or beds for passengers than lifeboat capacity. This is to give those desiring more than two to a cabin the choice of various cabin types. However, the ship will be considered "sold out" when the number of passengers equals the lifeboat capacity. As cruzer2 mentions there can be cases where because of high demand for 3/4th guests in cabins, that there are cabins unsold on a sold out cruise. The cruise line tries to avoid this by placing a stop on 3/4th guest bookings if it looks like this is going to happen to force groups to book multiple cabins. And, to be factual, there is no legal requirement that all passengers be accommodated in lifeboats. Princess, for one, and maybe HAL have some passenger muster stations use a MES (Marine Evacuation System, the chute and large liferaft cluster), which is perfectly legal. SOLAS requires lifeboat/liferaft capacity equal to 50% of total people onboard on each side of the ship, and a total lifeboat/liferaft capacity equal to 125% of all people onboard (note I say all people onboard, which means passengers and crew). Thank you again.Clarea and yourself IMO are the 2 main posters on CC and your advice has my 100% respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted June 7, 2017 #134 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Exactly does anyone know. No, and it's not that important anyway. We really have no business delving into someone's private affairs. On the other hand, we did learn about full capacity and lifeboats. [emoji2] So taking a thread off topic can be good in the long run Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted June 7, 2017 #135 Share Posted June 7, 2017 ... We really have no business delving into someone's private affairs. ... We would lose half the posts here without delving into someone's private affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted June 7, 2017 #136 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Can't top that. Hail to the Chief :D Thank you Sir. Someone will try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWOL Posted June 7, 2017 #137 Share Posted June 7, 2017 I was hoping you would stop by. How do you find all of these threads? He has a lot of time to send on the internet and drink coffee, he is a Chief Engineer.:* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelitino Posted June 7, 2017 #138 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Not true. Here they are at their muster station ... This must be why they had those towels saving their chairs!! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballmp Posted June 7, 2017 #139 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Unfollowing...zzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloworm2 Posted June 7, 2017 #140 Share Posted June 7, 2017 I unsubscribed days ago but keep getting the alerts [emoji30] Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimAOk1945 Posted June 7, 2017 #141 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Thanks for the review about lifeboats and life rafts. Learned a lot. I'm out of here. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted June 7, 2017 #142 Share Posted June 7, 2017 He has a lot of time to send on the internet and drink coffee, he is a Chief Engineer.:* Some days, yes, some days, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted June 7, 2017 #143 Share Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) This thread has gone so off topic. Does anyone know what actually happened on Oasis? Exactly does anyone know. Nothing happened on the Oasis. The original post was just a cover to start a discussion about lifeboats, life rafts and max capacity. :evilsmile: Although nothing happened, here is how it ended ... Edited June 7, 2017 by Cuizer2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSnarkyPants Posted June 7, 2017 #144 Share Posted June 7, 2017 I know I really am letting "snarky" grow on me. I used it twice already today in real life. This sounds like a job for me! :evilsmile: As for the original post: If you had a family member who was injured, involved in an altercation, or died in the middle of a cruise, would YOU like to find out what happened to someone you love from someone who heard from someone who heard it from a cabin steward or worse, read on the internet? Unless you're involved, you have no right to know and it is not only proper, it is essential that the staff say as little as possible to anyone who isn't related to whomever is involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted June 7, 2017 #145 Share Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) Cuizer2You handled yourself with class:D Cruised with you on Enchantment/Balt I try, but I don't always succeed. :loudcry: I can get pretty sarcastic when I am pushed too hard. :evilsmile: Ask John, he'll confirm it. I remember the Enchantment cruise. I was so looking forward to the extra time in the ports, only to find out that the ports rolled up the sidewalks and turned out the lights at the normal time, leaving us to look at a big black hole in the sea. Edited June 7, 2017 by Cuizer2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted June 7, 2017 #146 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Thank God for unions!! What about OSHA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Dancer Posted June 7, 2017 #147 Share Posted June 7, 2017 I think our ch**f engineer pops up when the word CH**F is entered on here. I blocked out the IE as not to bother him if I'm right. There was no way this thread would have been of interest to him. He must have a setting where if that word is typed, he has usually popped up in a few minutes............or he has ESP:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWOL Posted June 7, 2017 #148 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Some days, yes, some days, not so much. Ya I know, I got my Chief's ticket in '73, just trying to have some fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted June 7, 2017 #149 Share Posted June 7, 2017 We would lose half the posts here without delving into someone's private affairs. Only half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou_70 Posted June 7, 2017 #150 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Which half? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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