Big_G Posted July 23, 2017 #176 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Some of the "Loyals" would do themselves a major service trying a competitor line and see how hard they are working to win over converts with their perks and benefits; often at lower rates. I often blame those that won't try other lines for the constant chiseling of the Royal product; when Royal knows they can offer less they will do so. We're looking at other lines. Like John&LaLa, we had a run on Carnival and Princess and came back to Royal. Royal hasn't disappointed us yet but we're getting the itch for something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted July 23, 2017 #177 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I don't mind the concept of people paying more to get more perks, but Royal is not doing a great job with stratification. Other cruise lines have the ship within ship concept and keep high priced areas separate and distinct from "run of house" areas. With Royal, you don't really have that arrangement so they have gone more and more towards limiting access to what was commonly public areas for all to use. As far as the sales pitches, I have usually managed to avoid them (don't use the spa services for instance) but they do irk me. Finding services and pricing is easy. If I want it, I will seek it out. I do not appreciate constantly being approached to spend more money. It erases the fantasy of being on a luxurious vacation and cheapens the experience for me, personally. I do not have a problem politely saying no, rather not be in that position to begin with. Well said. Agree 100%. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradner3 Posted July 23, 2017 #178 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Wow, I love that this post exists. I really enjoy sitting near these "reserved" sections before the start of shows to watch how out of shape people get when they absolutely HAVE to sit in that row and have arguments with the crew members that are holding the seats. Meanwhile, and regardless of what the original post does, or does not say, PLENTY of other very good seats all around the theater are available. It's like people need to find something to get angry about on vacation. I have actually seen people argue and then go in the aisle above the blocked row and then climb over the seats into the 'blocked' row and sit down. The poor crew member was so shaken up from the hard time the couple gave her in the aisle, she just let them sit down. I felt so bad for her. Personally, I would have gone and got a more senior crew member. Not a huge infraction, but you disobeyed a crew member - plain and simple. And this is not a practice that is specific to cruise ships. I used to be an usher at a theatre. We held seats all the time and did not have this problem. I have noticed that people at sea are much more rude and entitled than they are on land. Not sure why that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thetrail Posted July 23, 2017 #179 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Just enjoy what you have,many people will never get the opportunity to cruise. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Bravo, well said.(y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thetrail Posted July 23, 2017 #180 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Unless it is a cabin of 8 in a star class suite. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Then you wouldn't have to save seats, your have your own reserved seating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thetrail Posted July 23, 2017 #181 Share Posted July 23, 2017 You can still get Suite Perks if you are Pinnacle. So either pay or cruise. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk So very true.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thetrail Posted July 23, 2017 #182 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Sorry but I disagree. You state they have upped their game when it comes to suites. On Oasis and Quantum class yes. On the rest of the fleet no. There is absolutely nothing that I get (other than being escorted on when in an RS) when I stay in a GS or higher on the rest of the fleet that I don't already get for being D+. Oh I forgot the free room service. Please explain to me how that is upping their game with suites and what other benefits I am getting. You can disagree but your wrong, look at post # 162. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thetrail Posted July 23, 2017 #183 Share Posted July 23, 2017 My RS on Serenade 10 day over Easter this year was just over 8 grand total. Nowhere near Star Class on a 7 day trip. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app John sometimes if it's not your opinion your wrong, and I don't mean your opinion.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 23, 2017 #184 Share Posted July 23, 2017 John sometimes if it's not your opinion your wrong, and I don't mean your opinion.;) I agree with John because i love Bella. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constable145 Posted July 23, 2017 #185 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Then you wouldn't have to save seats, your have your own reserved seating.Not quite. The genie saves you the best seats regardless of whether or not they are in the suite section. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 23, 2017 #186 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Not quite. The genie saves you the best seats regardless of whether or not they are in the suite section. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk I thought the suite section were the best seats. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurschick Posted July 23, 2017 #187 Share Posted July 23, 2017 You can disagree but your wrong, look at post # 162. I have read that post and I think you are missing my point. Someone stated that RC have upped their game when it comes to suite perks. I said I agree that they have on Oasis and Quantum class ships but they are still falling way behind when it comes to the rest of the fleet. The perks listed in 162 whilst they are perks to some does not mean they are valued as game changers by others. If you sail star class and sail in a RS on other ships of the fleet and think the perks are comparable then you are welcome to that opinion. My honest opinion is that the two do not even come close and that RC needs to up the perks on non Oasis / Quantum class ships. For what we look for in a cruise most of the points in 162 are not applicable or have little value to us. We don't use luggage valet as its not applicable to us. Barefoot beach is great if you are going on a ship that has that port, but is a mute point if you are not going there. In room dining, yes is nice but I can get that in a GS for a fraction of the cost. I just feel that what you pay for an RS on the rest of the fleet deserves a lot more than it currently gets. The first time we sailed in an RS as D+ there was no wow factor or anything that stood out as being special. You are welcome to your opinion, but I am also entitled to mine. I am not trying to argue with you, but the whole point is people can share their views and opinions and not every one has the same experience on every ship. My opinion based on my personal experience, is that sailing in a RS when you are Diamond or above on a non star class ship doesn't add much wow factor when it comes to perks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted July 23, 2017 #188 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Steam shower was my favorite part of Royal Suite Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 23, 2017 #189 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I thought the suite section were the best seats. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app If you call Balcony seats on most ships the best. Not us. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeySailor Posted July 23, 2017 #190 Share Posted July 23, 2017 If only Royal would roll out the Star/Sky/Sea class experience with comparable perks as offered on the Big ladies, all would be peachy. The RS, OS and GS prices on the smaller vessels dependent on itinerary are still in some cases equivalent in cost to the Oasis & Quantum class. From personal experience with RS, OS and GS on non star class ships, and likewise personal experience on the bigger ships staying in suites. The gap is huge! Even if on non Oasis/Quantum class, the RS, PS, OS and GS these suites got inclusive wifi and inclusive drink packages, the playing field will have at least been leveled out some. How difficult could it be to make the following suites on non Oasis/Quantum equal to: RS and PS Star Class OS and GS (RFS) Sky Class JS Sea Class (All categories of JS) Gold cards for pinnacle remain or White as on the biggies. For the most part the reclassification of suite codes has remained pretty much the same on the lesser sized ships. So if I have accidentally not used the correct codes, please excuse me. Just my opinion from 1st hand experience sailing in the different levels of suites across the fleet, big and small. So looking forward to the RS on MSC Seaside, with the Yacht Club experience during a peak week of travel and cheaper than a GS on Oasis or Allure, but getting equal to, if not more than Star Class has to offer. Still sail RC but looks like there are others out there that actually are "UPPING THEIR GAME" Happy Days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeySailor Posted July 23, 2017 #191 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Steam shower was my favorite part of Royal Suite Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app The 5 types of pillow did it for me;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 23, 2017 #192 Share Posted July 23, 2017 If only Royal would roll out the Star/Sky/Sea class experience with comparable perks as offered on the Big ladies, all would be peachy. The RS, OS and GS prices on the smaller vessels dependent on itinerary are still in some cases equivalent in cost to the Oasis & Quantum class. From personal experience with RS, OS and GS on non star class ships, and likewise personal experience on the bigger ships staying in suites. The gap is huge! Even if on non Oasis/Quantum class, the RS, PS, OS and GS these suites got inclusive wifi and inclusive drink packages, the playing field will have at least been leveled out some. How difficult could it be to make the following suites on non Oasis/Quantum equal to: RS and PS Star Class OS and GS (RFS) Sky Class JS Sea Class (All categories of JS) Gold cards for pinnacle remain or White as on the biggies. For the most part the reclassification of suite codes has remained pretty much the same on the lesser sized ships. So if I have accidentally not used the correct codes, please excuse me. Just my opinion from 1st hand experience sailing in the different levels of suites across the fleet, big and small. So looking forward to the RS on MSC Seaside, with the Yacht Club experience during a peak week of travel and cheaper than a GS on Oasis or Allure, but getting equal to, if not more than Star Class has to offer. Still sail RC but looks like there are others out there that actually are "UPPING THEIR GAME" Happy Days! I agree with you. I would also like the CL converted to a Suite Lounge. We actually agree on most everything except smoking. I used to smoke. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeySailor Posted July 23, 2017 #193 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I agree with you. I would also like the CL converted to a Suite Lounge. We actually agree on most everything except smoking. I used to smoke. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Funny thing is, I don't smoke;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurschick Posted July 23, 2017 #194 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I agree with John because i love Bella. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app We all love Bella! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 23, 2017 #195 Share Posted July 23, 2017 If you call Balcony seats on most ships the best. Not us. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Then get your Genie to section off where you think are the best seats. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 23, 2017 #196 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Then get your Genie to section off where you think are the best seats. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Huh? No genies on most ships. On smaller ships, seats reserved are in the balcony. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNBR Posted July 23, 2017 #197 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Great thread! My vacation is RUINED, ruined I say!!! A genie marked off 5 seats in an empty theater and, ugh, RUINED!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 23, 2017 #198 Share Posted July 23, 2017 We all love Bella! I think we all do. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 23, 2017 #199 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Huh? No genies on most ships. On smaller ships, seats reserved are in the balcony. Sent from my iPhone using Forums I took it you were referring to Oasis/ Quantum class ships. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 23, 2017 #200 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Great thread! My vacation is RUINED, ruined I say!!! A genie marked off 5 seats in an empty theater and, ugh, RUINED!!!!!!!! Should have stayed in the bottle lol. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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