grapau27 Posted July 24, 2017 #176 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Look, if I had something taken away from our cruise experience, that we had been accustomed too, we would be upset as well. The big ships are not our favorite. We find the experience must better typically on the smaller ships. The biggest driving factor for us to book on the big ships, is the the SL/CK. If certain things go away that we enjoy, we are likely to choose another cruise line that offers the things we like. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Personally we preferred Central Park on Allure and Harmony. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constable145 Posted July 24, 2017 #177 Share Posted July 24, 2017 We are D+ so are in a position to comment and when you get to D+ you might understand.CL are for Suite guests, Pinnacle and D+. SL are for Suite guests and Pinnacle only. On all ships bar Oasis class we can sit in a lounge frequented by Suite guests so it is a demotion for D+ on Oasis class ships when we are not allowed in the SL. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Yes but on the Oasis class you get a diamond lounge that suite guests can't enter unless they have achieved that status. I'm not sure what issue is. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 24, 2017 #178 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Yes but on the Oasis class you get a diamond lounge that suite guests can't enter unless they have achieved that status. I'm not sure what issue is. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Been Diamond for a bit, but before Diamond, our Gold Sea Pass card always opened the door in the Diamond Lounge. I believe Suite Guest have access to both. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 24, 2017 #179 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Yes but on the Oasis class you get a diamond lounge that suite guests can't enter unless they have achieved that status. I'm not sure what issue is. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Wasn't aware of that but what i hear about the SL I'm sure they would have no interest in coming down to deck 4 to a dungeon lounge. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 24, 2017 #180 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Been Diamond for a bit, but before Diamond, our Gold Sea Pass card always opened the door in the Diamond Lounge. I believe Suite Guest have access to both. Sent from my iPhone using Forums That was my understanding too. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 24, 2017 #181 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Wasn't aware of that but what i hear about the SL I'm sure they would have no interest in coming down to deck 4 to a dungeon lounge. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app I thought Diamond Club was on Deck 11 on Oasis Class? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsail Posted July 24, 2017 #182 Share Posted July 24, 2017 No one here speaks for other cruisers, most cruisers, all cruisers, cruisers with levels or some kind of status, or what others prefer. You only speak for yourself. By the way, the SL has + in it on every cruise that I have used the lounge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 24, 2017 #183 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I thought Diamond Club was on Deck 11 on Oasis Class? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Yes it was on Allure 2015. I was thinking of our 3 cruises on Harmony in 2016 where the lounge was on deck 4 because Wonderland on Harmony was where the DL was on Alure. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constable145 Posted July 24, 2017 #184 Share Posted July 24, 2017 That was my understanding too. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app That's incorrect. Even if you are in a grand suite or above you have to have achieved diamond status to enter the diamond lounge. Plus it is only on deck 4 on Oasis and Allure... Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 24, 2017 #185 Share Posted July 24, 2017 So is that not the case when suite guests frequent CL on other ship classes.The SL on this ship class obviously offers significantly more perks so there really should be 3 lounges to accommodate the D,D+ and P. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app The biggest difference I think is because you have far more Suites on the bigger ships, meaning a lot more Suite guests to utilize the SL. On the little ships as little as 5 and generally around 13 cabins. A bunch more Suites on bigger ships. The larger Suites on Oasis Class hold a lot more people too. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 24, 2017 #186 Share Posted July 24, 2017 That's incorrect. Even if you are in a grand suite or above you have to have achieved diamond status to enter the diamond lounge. Plus it is only on deck 4 on Oasis and Allure... Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Harmony DL was on deck 4 for our 3 cruises on her in 2016. A previous poster said his gold card let him into the DL when not a diamond member. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 24, 2017 #187 Share Posted July 24, 2017 That's incorrect. Even if you are in a grand suite or above you have to have achieved diamond status to enter the diamond lounge. Plus it is only on deck 4 on Oasis and Allure... Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Not making it up. Always worked for us. I was even told the Gold card opened both lounges. Can't test anymore. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 24, 2017 #188 Share Posted July 24, 2017 A previous poster said his gold card let him into the DL when not a diamond member. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app True Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constable145 Posted July 24, 2017 #189 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Harmony DL was on deck 4 for our 3 cruises on her in 2016.A previous poster said his gold card let him into the DL when not a diamond member. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Yes I had it backwards. It is not on deck 4 on Allure and Oasis.. Deck 12 to be exact. My bad. Plus if a poster is referring to their gold card perhaps they aren't on an Oasis class or it was before the Royal suite class was rolled out. The big ships don't use gold cards anymore. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 24, 2017 #190 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Not making it up. Always worked for us. I was even told the Gold card opened both lounges. Can't test anymore. Sent from my iPhone using Forums It makes sense to me. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 24, 2017 #191 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Harmony DL was on deck 4 for our 3 cruises on her in 2016.A previous poster said his gold card let him into the DL when not a diamond member. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Haven't been on Harmony yet. I can confirm that DL is on deck 11 on Oasis and Allure until at least next dry dock. In 2016, Gold card opened Diamond Club/Lounge on EN and Serenade. After that, not possible to confirm on other ships. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 24, 2017 #192 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Yes I had it backwards. It is not on deck 4 on Allure and Oasis.. Deck 12 to be exact. My bad. Plus if a poster is referring to their gold card perhaps they aren't on an Oasis class or it was before the Royal suite class was rolled out. The big ships don't use gold cards anymore. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Plum card for Sky Class on Allure. Two late to check as Diamond made the previous cruise Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clagmeister Posted July 24, 2017 #193 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I'm Diamond and agree. I don't believe many of D+ agree with that as from what I have witnessed in CL was they enjoyed hooking up with/ talking to PC. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Keep Lounges for Gold Cards only and give D or D+ a good drinks package discount. This would free up more public space for everyone to enjoy and would create a revenue stream from those who spend the day waiting for the drinks vouchers to kick in and enjoy dining out on the fact that they left the ship with a zero balance. Yes I do travel in suites most times and I have reached D+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 24, 2017 #194 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Keep Lounges for Gold Cards only and give D or D+ a good drinks package discount. This would free up more public space for everyone to enjoy and would create a revenue stream from those who spend the day waiting for the drinks vouchers to kick in and enjoy dining out on the fact that they left the ship with a zero balance. Yes I do travel in suites most times and I have reached D+ I don't agree,the lounges offer a Diamond Consierge plus drinks,coffee machine and nice snacks as well as a quiet area during the day. More drinks vouchers yes but the Lounge is a prerequisite for us and thousands of other D and D+. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmym1981 Posted July 24, 2017 #195 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Keep Lounges for Gold Cards only and give D or D+ a good drinks package discount. This would free up more public space for everyone to enjoy and would create a revenue stream from those who spend the day waiting for the drinks vouchers to kick in and enjoy dining out on the fact that they left the ship with a zero balance. Yes I do travel in suites most times and I have reached D+ I'm with this 100%. I would rather a 30% off beverage package any day. Not saying that I want the lounge to go away, but I feel this would help keep the congestion down during peak hours. In all honesty, I really don't enjoy the Diamond Lounge as much anymore. Sure, I'll run in for morning coffee or a quick question to the concierge, but other than that, I feel recently the lounges are so packed, it makes it less enjoyable. Not to mention, since I am on the younger side, at least once on each cruise, I will get smurks and comments from others asking me "if I knew that this is a private room for D/D+." I always just politely smile and tell them yes I do and let the curiosity get them. I'm not saying this is everyone, I have met some great people in the lounges, its just been my recent experiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted July 24, 2017 #196 Share Posted July 24, 2017 . I would rather a 30% off beverage package any day. You can as a D+, most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsail Posted July 24, 2017 #197 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I don't agree,the lounges offer a Diamond Consierge plus drinks,coffee machine and nice snacks as well as a quiet area during the day.More drinks vouchers yes but the Lounge is a prerequisite for us. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app I fixed your post since you don't speak for thousands of others, only yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmym1981 Posted July 24, 2017 #198 Share Posted July 24, 2017 You can as a D+, most of the time. I have heard they were rolling this out, but it is still up in the air. It's kinda the roll of the dice to wait and purchase vs beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 24, 2017 #199 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I'm with this 100%. I would rather a 30% off beverage package any day. Not saying that I want the lounge to go away, but I feel this would help keep the congestion down during peak hours. In all honesty, I really don't enjoy the Diamond Lounge as much anymore. Sure, I'll run in for morning coffee or a quick question to the concierge, but other than that, I feel recently the lounges are so packed, it makes it less enjoyable. Not to mention, since I am on the younger side, at least once on each cruise, I will get smurks and comments from others asking me "if I knew that this is a private room for D/D+." I always just politely smile and tell them yes I do and let the curiosity get them. I'm not saying this is everyone, I have met some great people in the lounges, its just been my recent experiences. You will regret asking for that if Royal did away with the lounge. People should mind their own business because you need your Diamond card to open the door anyway. We had a free Deluxe drinks package in June on Freedom and hardly used it but when we did for glasses of Sauvignon Blanc and prosecco we ended up paying an extra $5.12 and $2.56 for a glass of each. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 24, 2017 #200 Share Posted July 24, 2017 You can as a D+, most of the time. Thats true the only way to relieve any DL congestion is to give everyone 5+ drinks vouchers for other bars. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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