C 2 C Posted August 29, 2017 #1 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Friends on board Equinox reported that the Royal Board will be asked to move Summit according to the Q&A session with Lisa.. Also the royal board has to approve changes to the Loyalty program ie Zen is on the Horizon A new head of loyalty has been named.. Andrea ??? This is not first hand information but others may chime in.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingChick Posted August 29, 2017 #2 Share Posted August 29, 2017 As long as they replace Summit with another ship, it would be nice for a change. I can't see them giving up Bermuda and Canada/New England itineraries. That would just leave us with RCCL. As far as the loyalty program goes, we are so far away even from "Zen" that adding another level won't do anything but put us even farther down on the food chain. We were at the top, now we are second to top then we will go to third from the top. We were just talking last night about how hard it is to obtain loyalty levels now on Celebrity. Unless of course you have money. It's more of a "who has the most money program" as opposed to loyalty rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C 2 C Posted August 29, 2017 Author #3 Share Posted August 29, 2017 The context I believe is that it's not Summit leaving Bayonne, but Celebrity leaving Bayonne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyette Posted August 29, 2017 #4 Share Posted August 29, 2017 That's too bad Celebrity is leaving Bayonne. We live in Toronto, and Bayonne was a very easy port to drive to for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingChick Posted August 29, 2017 #5 Share Posted August 29, 2017 The context I believe is that it's not Summit leaving Bayonne, but Celebrity leaving Bayonne. Wow, so no more Bermuda or Canada / New England. That's not good. Why would she want to do a stupid thing like that especially since RCCL put so much money into Bayonne? She is really good at alienating Celebrity's long time loyal cruisers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alakegirl Posted August 29, 2017 #6 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Dont take this as a "done deal". It is hardly set in stone at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C 2 C Posted August 29, 2017 Author #7 Share Posted August 29, 2017 That's too bad Celebrity is leaving Bayonne. We live in Toronto, and Bayonne was a very easy port to drive to for us. We're three hours south of you and I agree. It's only a ten hour drive.. :D We'll be back in a week and a half. Alakegirl Today 02:24 PM Dont take this as a "done deal". It is hardly set in stone at this time. I agree but I wonder what the motivation is. I thought Summit is nearly always at capacity. Are passengers spending too much time ashore and not spending their money in the casino or shops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karynanne Posted August 29, 2017 #8 Share Posted August 29, 2017 We're three hours south of you and I agree. It's only a ten hour drive.. :D We'll be back in a week and a half. I agree but I wonder what the motivation is. I thought Summit is nearly always at capacity. Are passengers spending too much time ashore and not spending their money in the casino or shops? The shops and casino are only open when the ship is at sea. So that wouldn't be a factor. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alakegirl Posted August 29, 2017 #9 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Way too early to tell what will happen....maybe it will just get a new home port in the New York Metro area. Maybe somewhere else from which it can still do Bermuda & New England. Maybe it will be replaced by some other ship (Edge 2?). There are so many possibilities, but it just is mere speculation and I dont want to see people jumping to the conclusion that there's no Bayonne, no Bermuda and or/no New England in Celebrity's future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingChick Posted August 29, 2017 #10 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Way too early to tell what will happen....maybe it will just get a new home port in the New York Metro area. Maybe somewhere else from which it can still do Bermuda & New England. Maybe it will be replaced by some other ship (Edge 2?). There are so many possibilities, but it just is mere speculation and I dont want to see people jumping to the conclusion that there's no Bayonne, no Bermuda and or/no New England in Celebrity's future. Their parent company pulled out of NYC in 2004 or 2005, after NYC said they would not make improvements to the NY City terminals. They put all their money into Bayonne (Cape Liberty). Heck the terminal they built and parking garage is brand new. Why would Celebrity NOT want to use this? Hopefully they are just thinking about switching ships. Summit has been there since 2011. Prior to that is was Constellation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJSailors Posted August 29, 2017 #11 Share Posted August 29, 2017 My DH and I are going to book the Summit July 8,2018 cruise to Bermuda from Bayonne in the next day or two. Family members have already booked this cruise and we will be joining them. Would Celebrity list cruises that would be cancelled next summer ? Perhaps, it would be better to wait on an official announcement from Celebrity before conjecturing on CC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0103 Posted August 29, 2017 #12 Share Posted August 29, 2017 IF the rumor is true, can I put in a vote for Boston:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Happy Posted August 29, 2017 #13 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Maybe they will move it to Baltimore. The Millennium was stationed there for a couple of years in the early 2000's before it was moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurab23 Posted August 29, 2017 #14 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I hope Celebrity pulling out of Bayonne is just a nasty rumor. Laura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted August 29, 2017 #15 Share Posted August 29, 2017 The shops and casino are only open when the ship is at sea. So that wouldn't be a factor. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Casinos have been open for several years in the evening while docked in Bermuda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karynanne Posted August 29, 2017 #16 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Casinos have been open for several years in the evening while docked in Bermuda. I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the info! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenevenpar Posted August 29, 2017 #17 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the info! They, Celebrity and other cruise lines, needed that concession from BDA in order to continue cruising to BDA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyUK Posted August 29, 2017 #18 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Arno...is the thinking that Zen will be a level between Elite plus and Zenith or a higher level than Zenith? Sent from my SM-G935F using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alakegirl Posted August 29, 2017 #19 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Earlier this summer she said that they would be introducing a level between Eliteplus and Zenith, then she retracted it and said they werent ready to announce it yet. The speculation was that they were waiting for a replacement for Lee Moreau so the new person in that position could do the honors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philpcruiser Posted August 29, 2017 #20 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Their parent company pulled out of NYC in 2004 or 2005, after NYC said they would not make improvements to the NY City terminals. They put all their money into Bayonne (Cape Liberty). Heck the terminal they built and parking garage is brand new. Why would Celebrity NOT want to use this? Hopefully they are just thinking about switching ships. Summit has been there since 2011. Prior to that is was Constellation. WHO put their money into Cape Liberty? Was it the "parent company"? Are they on a lease with the Port Authority? They probably don't own the land. Wouldn't you think that whoever paid the tab for the terminal, parking deck and roadway improvements intended to stay there many years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingChick Posted August 29, 2017 #21 Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) WHO put their money into Cape Liberty? Was it the "parent company"? Are they on a lease with the Port Authority? They probably don't own the land. Wouldn't you think that whoever paid the tab for the terminal, parking deck and roadway improvements intended to stay there many years? Royal Caribbean International, the parent company, put the money in to Cape Liberty. They have a lease till December 31, 2043. http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2014/06/royal_caribbean_cruise_lines_may_2014_cape_liberty_port_investment_redevelopment_construction.html http://www.panynj.gov/press-room/press-item.cfm?headLine_id=1810 Sent from my SM-T350 using Forums mobile app Edited August 29, 2017 by CruisingChick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2theship Posted August 29, 2017 #22 Share Posted August 29, 2017 It's a bit of interesting information but I'm not going to worry about it until something is officially announced. I have four cabins booked on the Summit in August 2018 and I'm working under the assumption that all will go as anticipated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Barracuda Posted August 29, 2017 #23 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Seem to recall that in order to secure Port Authority backing for Port Liberty renovations parent RCCL made certain guarantees regarding port usage. One was definitely that Royal would base a new Quantum class ship there. Not sure about guaranteeing X presence. Royal will also base Adventure in Bayonne next summer doing Bahama and Canada itineraries. If bookings have been strong could see her pick up Bermuda in 2019. She holds twice as many passengers as Summit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Lover Posted August 29, 2017 #24 Share Posted August 29, 2017 So this is all based on the statement "Friends on board Equinox reported that the Royal Board will be asked to move Summit according to the Q&A session with Lisa" Seems like precious little to get all upset about. Also quite possible there is a lot of info lost in the retelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C 2 C Posted August 29, 2017 Author #25 Share Posted August 29, 2017 It's a bit of interesting information but I'm not going to worry about it until something is officially announced. I have four cabins booked on the Summit in August 2018 and I'm working under the assumption that all will go as anticipated. When the boss says that there are other plans for Summit it could also mean that if the traffic warrants it, an S-class ship makes Bayonne home or to really impress the NY market, dare one dream, .......... On a slow day, when I could have been cruising, I'm at home speculating.. Equinox was taken out of Europe due to a softening market.. Eclipse was moved to South America.. perhaps replacing Infinity's itinerary.. Edge will be going somewhere... I'm still planning on Summit for next year..... but when "Lisa" says she has plans for Summit, a change is bound to take place. eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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