highfields Posted February 2, 2018 #1 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) Please check out your ship's vessel sanitation ratings. 100 is perfect. 85 and below is FAILING. The Grandeur of the Seas barely squeaked by with an 87. https://wwwn.cdc.gov/inspectionquery Edited February 2, 2018 by highfields correct URL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster Posted February 2, 2018 #2 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Please check out your ship's vessel sanitation ratings. 100 is perfect.85 and below is FAILING. The Grandeur of the Seas barely squeaked by with an 87. https:wwwn.cdc.gov/inspectionquery No problem. I have not read the link, but saw elsewhere Carnival had 3 ships that recently failed and scored below 85. More appropriate to be cautious of Carnival and not Royal with just one ship that passed with a lower than average score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Ron Posted February 2, 2018 #3 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Unfortunately, Carnival had 4 failures in a row (Triumph, Breeze, Vista and Liberty) in the last few months. Disappointed that Breeze and Vista were on that list, as they are the two newest ships in the fleet. Hopefully, Royal won't follow that trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted February 2, 2018 #4 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Please check out your ship's vessel sanitation ratings. 100 is perfect.85 and below is FAILING. The Grandeur of the Seas barely squeaked by with an 87. https://wwwn.cdc.gov/inspectionquery Link not working for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonCruiser Posted February 2, 2018 #5 Share Posted February 2, 2018 These are the most recent scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunlover2 Posted February 2, 2018 #6 Share Posted February 2, 2018 The link is not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter6251 Posted February 2, 2018 #7 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Link not working for me. Doesn't work for me either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster Posted February 2, 2018 #8 Share Posted February 2, 2018 How about now? https://wwwn.cdc.gov/InspectionQueryTool/InspectionGreenSheetRpt.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter6251 Posted February 2, 2018 #9 Share Posted February 2, 2018 How about now? https://wwwn.cdc.gov/InspectionQueryTool/InspectionGreenSheetRpt.aspx Works great. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted February 2, 2018 #10 Share Posted February 2, 2018 How about now? https://wwwn.cdc.gov/InspectionQueryTool/InspectionGreenSheetRpt.aspx Yes, works now. First time it took me to a Google Search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoozer of the seas Posted February 2, 2018 #11 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Just don't look at raw scores, look at why they lost points. One of the Explorer concerns was a machine being repaired on the day of inspection. Like what? stuff breaks. I work in food manufacturing, our audits can be tough. Faded label on a cleaning bottle, that's a point. Broom not put away properly, that's a point. Some auditors are tougher than other too. Auditors are only auditing on what they see that day, not what happened the day before or the day after. Everyone is on their best behaviour when the auditors around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster Posted February 2, 2018 #12 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) I am so old, used to get the CDC green sheets sent to me in the mail. Why did I admit that? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Edited February 2, 2018 by coaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2naBill Posted February 2, 2018 #13 Share Posted February 2, 2018 https://cruiseradio.net/cruise-podcast-interview-with-cruise-ship-health-inspector/ Current episode on cruise radio podcast has an interview with one of the lead inspector's for the CDC. Sent from my Z956 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted February 2, 2018 #14 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Just don't look at raw scores, look at why they lost points. One of the Explorer concerns was a machine being repaired on the day of inspection. Like what? stuff breaks. I work in food manufacturing, our audits can be tough. Faded label on a cleaning bottle, that's a point. Broom not put away properly, that's a point. Some auditors are tougher than other too. Auditors are only auditing on what they see that day, not what happened the day before or the day after. Everyone is on their best behaviour when the auditors around. Those who haven't done a USPH inspection really don't know how the scores are arrived at. While each area or sanitation concern is given a point deduction, from 1-5, after the inspection is complete, the inspectors compare their notes and "scale" the base deduction for each item based on the number of times it was observed during the inspection, and also the egregiousness of the observed violation. These actual point deductions are not shown except on the corrective action report. Various deficiencies for the same type of sanitation concern, like ref #20 (PHF temperature maintaining equipment), where the inop blast chiller was awarded a "zero" point deduction. Also, ref #22 (warewashing equipment), where the maximum deduction of 2 points was awarded for 1 leaking machine, 1 machine with blocked rinse spray arms, 3 inop machines. The first two can produce unsanitary conditions, the last 3 create pressure on the other warewashing machines to keep up, and also on crew to transport dishware to the working machines from the normal area of operation. The inspections are not announced, and the inspectors require that a meal service be accomplished during the inspection to see if the required protocols are simply "best behavior" or whether it has become second nature and can withstand the pressure of a meal service during inspection. And, yes, an inspection is a snap shot of the condition on that day. This is why the inspectors look to record keeping since the last inspection, require a stressor of a meal service, and grill crew on their knowledge of the requirements during meal service. But the true measure of a ship's performance or the line in its entirety is to follow the trend of the scores. Consistently high scores reflects a good sanitation culture, while fluctuating scores shows that sanitation is not "second nature" or done without conscious thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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