kktexas Posted April 10, 2018 #1 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I heard the Rotterdam failed it’s United States Public Health (USPH) inspection yesterday. Anyone know if this is true? It’s too early to be posted on CDC website. Very surprising, if true. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted April 10, 2018 #2 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Hope we soon find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted April 10, 2018 #3 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Last Rotterdam inspection - 8/2/17 - Score 99 out of 100 https://wwwn.cdc.gov/InspectionQueryTool/InspectionDetailReport.aspx?ColI=MjAzNjAxNTk%3d-1uzwkEO4Qho%3d So tell us what happened to all the sudden drop below 85 - dry dock issues?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted April 10, 2018 #4 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I heard the Rotterdam failed it’s United States Public Health (USPH) inspection yesterday. Anyone know if this is true? It’s too early to be posted on CDC website. Very surprising, if true. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Seeing thi s public statement makes me hope you 'Heard" it from a Very reliable s ource and it is not just rumor and gossip How sure are you it is true ? In what port was the inspection done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted April 10, 2018 #5 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Hope we soon find out. I hope we find out this maybe, might be a case of ' run to the interne t' to post what is ts unconfirmed information that they are sure will catch attention. Why? who knows? In time, i am sure we will learnhow accurate it is or is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kktexas Posted April 11, 2018 Author #6 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Not 100% sure, that’s why I was trying to verify. The port was Key West and I heard it from a port worker and he would have no reason to lie. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioLair Posted April 11, 2018 #7 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I heard the Rotterdam failed it’s United States Public Health (USPH) inspection yesterday. Anyone know if this is true? It’s too early to be posted on CDC website. Very surprising, if true. Sent from my iPhone using Forums interesting website about inspections: https://cruiseradio.net/truth-behind-cruise-ship-heath-inspections/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammiedawg Posted April 11, 2018 #8 Share Posted April 11, 2018 If true, perhaps the leaky ceilings in food service areas did them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homosassa Posted April 11, 2018 #9 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Not 100% sure, that’s why I was trying to verify. The port was Key West and I heard it from a port worker and he would have no reason to lie. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Seriously??? A port worker??? Now there is a reliable source that would know about CDC inspection results.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boytjie Posted April 11, 2018 #10 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Not 100% sure, that’s why I was trying to verify. The port was Key West and I heard it from a port worker and he would have no reason to lie. Why couldn't he lie or make up a story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HALrunner Posted April 11, 2018 #11 Share Posted April 11, 2018 If true, what would the implications be for a cruise that departs this Sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankc98376 Posted April 11, 2018 #12 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Wondering is USPH would send inspectors down to Key West just to inspect Rotterdam unless there were verifiable complaints or reports. I would think that it would be done in Tampa on the 15th before she leaves on her TA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homosassa Posted April 11, 2018 #13 Share Posted April 11, 2018 The inspections are done while the kitchens are in operation. The inspectors will often travel from ship to ship. It is very possible that an inspector would come off another ship stopping in Key West and board another vessel also in port. Conversely, an inspector could have boarded the Rotterdam in Tampa and left the ship in Key West for another vessel in port. I seriously doubt that a port worker would have first hand accurate knowledge of any inspection results. And before you ask, I worked for years in the agency that did the inspections and knew the various interstate sanitation specialists and my husband was one of the authors of the FDA Food Code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homosassa Posted April 11, 2018 #14 Share Posted April 11, 2018 If true, what would the implications be for a cruise that departs this Sunday? None. Please read here about how the system works: https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/desc/about_inspections.htm Once again, there is no evidence that there was an inspection or that the ship "failed." It is simply case of irresponsible gossip being spread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HALrunner Posted April 11, 2018 #15 Share Posted April 11, 2018 None. Please read here about how the system works: https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/desc/about_inspections.htm Once again, there is no evidence that there was an inspection or that the ship "failed." It is simply case of irresponsible gossip being spread. Thanks so much Homosassa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted April 11, 2018 #16 Share Posted April 11, 2018 If true, perhaps the leaky ceilings in food service areas did them in. Are you surprised there was no mention of this complaint in the last VSP inspection when they got 99 our of 100 points - nearly perfect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted April 11, 2018 #17 Share Posted April 11, 2018 The inspections are done while the kitchens are in operation. The inspectors will often travel from ship to ship. It is very possible that an inspector would come off another ship stopping in Key West and board another vessel also in port. Conversely, an inspector could have boarded the Rotterdam in Tampa and left the ship in Key West for another vessel in port. I seriously doubt that a port worker would have first hand accurate knowledge of any inspection results. And before you ask, I worked for years in the agency that did the inspections and knew the various interstate sanitation specialists and my husband was one of the authors of the FDA Food Code. it will be very good to get your experienced input on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankc98376 Posted April 11, 2018 #18 Share Posted April 11, 2018 The inspections are done while the kitchens are in operation. The inspectors will often travel from ship to ship. It is very possible that an inspector would come off another ship stopping in Key West and board another vessel also in port. Conversely, an inspector could have boarded the Rotterdam in Tampa and left the ship in Key West for another vessel in port. I seriously doubt that a port worker would have first hand accurate knowledge of any inspection results. And before you ask, I worked for years in the agency that did the inspections and knew the various interstate sanitation specialists and my husband was one of the authors of the FDA Food Code. Curious- how long do the inspections take? How long are inspectors on board? Just saw the cost- $11,960 per inspection- wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted April 11, 2018 #19 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Not 100% sure, that’s why I was trying to verify. The port was Key West and I heard it from a port worker and he would have no reason to lie. What do you mean b y port worker? A stevedore? Security? maybe he wasn't lying, ads you put it but how well informed is he? Where are you trying to confirm, how? The scores are not yet posted or we would be able to confirm it ourselves but we will depend upon you to assure us it is accurate. okay? Thanks. It's a very unsettling satement t make with no assurance it is true. iMO Sent from my iPhone using Forums If you learn it is true , thank you for sharing it with us. It is important information to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir PMP Posted April 11, 2018 #20 Share Posted April 11, 2018 If true, what would the implications be for a cruise that departs this Sunday? First they have to fix the problems and request a new inspection when done, meanwhile the need to remove 1 ship, the newest, Koningsdam, for 1 year from the fleet....:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted April 11, 2018 #21 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) If true, what would the implications be for a cruise that departs this Sunday?[/quoteWith NO available invormation, no one can say for sure But a failed ship usually has an oppotunityby ' to correct the deficiency and be re-examined. AT THE very worst, and this is NOT going to be the case here as it is so questionable what deficiengy may have caused a fail? . Did the ship fail by "1" point or "10"? How serious are the infractions? How dangerous. In a WOrST case, a ship can be barred from sailing. Don't panidc, that is jus about impossible to happen here. No one is really sure she failed , as far as I can tellThis is a panic p ost with no 'real' information, IMO. Dock worker? What was the score? A ship can lose a point if a sponge is left in a sink. If a knife has a sp;ot of 'gunk' where blade meets the handle.a point if can opener has a sp;ot of ' gunk'. if dishwasher hot water is a degree too cool..et c etc Edited April 11, 2018 by sail7seas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammiedawg Posted April 11, 2018 #22 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Seriously??? A port worker??? Now there is a reliable source that would know about CDC inspection results.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Sometimes it is the little people who know everything. If the report is true, everything hits the fan and the crew would be grumbling. Port people talk to crew members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted April 11, 2018 #23 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) If OP is trying now to verify the reliability of their report, interesing they did not do so before making the original post. The actual physical inspection of 'whole ship', takes varying amount of time but it is my impression from having been aboard twice when an HAL ship was being inspected Depending on lots of variables, including how many personel are doing the work, how many deficiencies are cited,. keep in mind, the inspection is far more than just main galley. It is taco bar, Lido, Lido galley, hand wash sinks, all bars, alternative restaurants, , burger bar, restrooms , spa and hot tubs, salon, food storage etc etc etc storage of cleaning supplies and maintenance articles. Personally, the more I think about the subject of this thread, the less I think it true and now even wonderr ifRoterdam was even inspected at all., I am going to go to the CDC site to see when she was last inspdcted, not that it necessarily means anything... the time between now and last inspection but I am curious.. USPH Edited April 11, 2018 by sail7seas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sailawaybellaluna Posted April 11, 2018 #24 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Wow, we just got off the Rotterdam on Sunday, and I'd be so surprised how this would even be possible?! I'll be following this thread to see if it ends up to be true! I even did the tour of the kitchen galley and couldn't see a thing that popped out as unsanitary! I'm no inspector, but it was certainly ten times cleaner than my own kitchen! ;) One day during our sailing, the captain did make an announcement that some cabins were having issues with their toilets not flushing, and he did give a reminder not to flush anything except toilet paper. Perhaps this could be related? In any case, if you're interested, I'm doing a full photo review of our cruise here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted April 11, 2018 #25 Share Posted April 11, 2018 If OP is trying now to verify the reliability of their report, interesing they did not do so before making the original post. The actual physical inspection of 'whole ship', takes varying amount of time but it is my impression from having been aboard twice when an HAL ship was being inspected Depending on lots of variables, including how many personel are doing the work, how many deficiencies are cited,. keep in mind, the inspection is far more than just main galley. It is taco bar, Lido, Lido galley, hand wash sinks, all bars, alternative restaurants, , burger bar, restrooms , spa and hot tubs, salon, food storage etc etc etc storage of cleaning supplies and maintenance articles. Personally, the more I think about the subject of this thread, the less I think it true and now even wonderr ifRoterdam was even inspected at all., I am going to go to the CDC site to see when she was last inspdcted, not that it necessarily means anything... the time between now and last inspection but I am curious.. USPH I already did this for you - read the VSP link in my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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