MrsT3030 Posted November 12, 2018 #1 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I realised how privileged it sounds to even write that sentence but we really didn’t have a good experience at all. Just stepped off the Jewel here in Singapore after a great week. We booked a suite, really looking forward to utilising the butler service. We didn’t see him at all for the first two days (and we were in our cabin plenty). We eventually saw him and he told me he was going to explain the service. He then proceeded to tell us fairly obviously information about the boat (like where we could get breakfast), but nothing around how he could help us, nor did he ask if we needed anything. All we asked for all week was to have water, milk and cookies ready at bedtime. Some nights we didn’t get this at all, it was simply ignored. Any time we called him to remind him or to ask a question, it was met with a frosty ‘ok’ and then he’d hang up. I assume this isn’t the norm but perhaps it is? Did we miss something or do something wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyL2 Posted November 12, 2018 #2 Share Posted November 12, 2018 No, this is definitely not the norm. You should have talked to the Concierge about your butler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted November 12, 2018 #3 Share Posted November 12, 2018 So,,, raising an issue now does now is too late to help your cruise. The butlers work for the Concierge and an issues should have been raised day one. And repeated when expectations were not fulfilled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsT3030 Posted November 12, 2018 Author #4 Share Posted November 12, 2018 We raised twice to concierge and once to guest services and received no change in service (in fact, by the end of the cruise we were receiving anything from our butler at all - not even a jug of water!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don't-use-real-name Posted November 12, 2018 #5 Share Posted November 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, BirdTravels said: So,,, raising an issue now does now is too late to help your cruise. The butlers work for the Concierge and an issues should have been raised day one. And repeated when expectations were not fulfilled. YES - it is now too late to complain and get the service you paid for expected and did not get ! You could fire off a letter to NCL at their Corporate Headquarters for some other compensation (if any) LINK below: When on board who to direct this - the Butler reports to the Concierge - the Concierge reports to the Hotel Director. This was awful - please write the letter and alert NCL of this - no excuse for this ! Norwegian Cruise Line (NCL) Norwegian Cruise Line Corporation Ltd. (Norwegian), a wholly owned subsidiary of Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings Ltd., is an American company operating cruise line, headquartered in Miami, FL. The company is best known for its Freestyle Cruising concept, which means that there are no set times or seating arrangements for meals, nor is formal attire required. 7665 Corporate Center Dr. Miami, FL 33126http://www.ncl.com Phone Contacts Main: (305) 436-4000 Customer Service: (866) 234-7350 Toll Free: (866) 625-1164 International: (305) 436-4000 Email Contacts Instead of email, NCL has a system to submit messages and documents via their website. It is important to use the right system depending on whether the cruise has sailed already or not. Before the cruise has sailed: https://www.ncl.com/case-submission/pre-cruise After the cruise has completed: https://www.ncl.com/case-submission NCL has a reputation for protecting its customer loyalty base if the resolution request is reasonable but does not react positively to threats or over-reaching. Remember to state your proposed solution with specificity and keep it reasonable. Customer Service Resources Leadership Team Passenger Bill of Rights Ticket Contract Book Safe Travel Protection Social Media Contacts FacebookTwitterGoogle Plus Executive Contacts Primary Contact Vivian Ewart Vice President, Passenger Services 7665 Corporate Center Dr. Miami, FL 33126 (305) 436-4011vewart@ncl.com Chief Executive Andy Stuart President and Chief Operating Officer 7665 Corporate Center Dr. Miami, FL 33126 (305) 436-4000astuart@ncl.com 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boopsahoy Posted November 12, 2018 #6 Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) So sorry for your bad experience. I luckily have only had one "bad" butler and I knew the first day how it was going to be. I was telling him we dont like those little hors d'oeuvre, could he bring little sandwiches or cheese and fruit instead when he said I have 14 other cabins you know. He did end up bringing what we wanted most nights but it wasnt a very warm relationship lol Should have complained immediately, instead I gave him a miniscule tip. Edited November 12, 2018 by boopsahoy spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsT3030 Posted November 12, 2018 Author #7 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I didn’t tip him at all 😟 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boopsahoy Posted November 12, 2018 #8 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, MrsT3030 said: I didn’t tip him at all 😟 I wanted him to know I KNEW I was supposed to tip but was letting him know this is all you're worth. So there! 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don't-use-real-name Posted November 12, 2018 #9 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Still yet while onboard file a complaint with the Concierge and onto the Hotel Director. Repeatedly getting bad service request a change of butlers - there are more than a few on board. That not happening leaving a meager tip or NO tip at the end has merits in letting that person know that you were not at all pleased with the service rendered - also a lessor tip to the Concierge for not correcting the problem - the Hotel Director is not tipped top management level. It helps to have cruised NCL more than a couple of times so that NCL knows that you are not a first timer who doesn't know the services provided by the butler. As for those unwanted snacks - horsed overs - fruit slices - chocolate strawberries - cookies & milk simply give the butler a schedule of what you would like and when - if you get something you don't want you don't have to eat it but it sure is a waste. You might inquire of the butler how many cabins he has to service and be a bit flexible on the delivery of the food goodies - but not furnishing any items when expected or delivering unwanted food when advised not to should be communicated to the butler. Also note that late at night 1 or more butlers will cover all the suites leaving the rest with time off. Something could get lost in communication - be nice and try to understand about this. Knowing more about the services of the butler - concierge and other front line service people is of great help in administering to your service needs - stop and find out what the game plan is ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimone Posted November 12, 2018 #10 Share Posted November 12, 2018 It helps to have cruised NCL more than a couple of times so that NCL knows that you are not a first timer who doesn't know the services provided by the butler. Why should that make a difference? Standards should be applied to new or old customers. in my opinion some Butlers run around after certain customers who have tipped high before, leaving the other 14 to cater for themselves, people quoting $10-$15 a day tip, you know who is going to get the service. Butlers should be included in the DSC, and tipping only allowed in exceptional circumstances, I am aware that tipping is part of US culture, but NCL take cruisers from all over the world, some have no tipping culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted November 12, 2018 #11 Share Posted November 12, 2018 9 hours ago, MrsT3030 said: I didn’t tip him at all 😟 Based on how you were treated, I totally agree that a tip was not warranted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD Silver Posted November 12, 2018 #12 Share Posted November 12, 2018 13 hours ago, BirdTravels said: So,,, raising an issue now does now is too late to help your cruise. The butlers work for the Concierge and an issues should have been raised day one. And repeated when expectations were not fulfilled. Well it's a good thing they raised the issue on these boards otherwise you would only have posted 99 comments on cruise critic today. Now you were able to post 100 comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyhanek Posted November 12, 2018 #13 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I never even tip the Butler. Because I don't use the Butler. In all my Haven cruises I have never asked one single thing of the Butler. Yes, they bring around the snacks everyday, wheeling their cart full and dropping them in my room but literally that is it. I tip everyone else because i use the other services. If I want things removed from my refrigerator, I remove them. If I want water its available all over the Haven I get it. Im not tipping the Butler because I don't use the service. I think as soon as you start asking for things, even if they are simple things then that obligates you to tip them. You ask them for nothing, there is no obligation. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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